Why Is There A Schrade Forum?

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donovan

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I don't mean to get too pissy here, but I posted a question in the Schrade forum to get some info on a new knife I saw at Wal-Mart. Check back in daily (O.K. couple of times a day. I hang out here a lot). :) No reply. Start checking backwards. 30 days-no moderator replies. 60 days? Nope. Go to moderator Tim Faust's bio, last post on 2/20/03. Going on four months. This isn't meant to rag on Tim. He might be a great guy. He might have had a personal crisis (God forbid), maybe he was fired. But somebody at Schrade ought to poke their head into their own forum on occasion.

O.K. I'm over it, but it does help me to appreciate the Sal Glesser and Will Fennel's of the world all the more.

Jack
 
I wonder why those forums like shrade, tiknives, JSP bladerigger still exist.

- They have no traffic to speak of.
- It costs Spark and BF to carry unused forums.

Given that, I don't understand why they still exist.
 
Maybe this would be a good time to cull some of the unused/low traffic forums and replace them with passaround and multi-tool forums to name two options. I still wonder why Kershaw doesn't have a presence and although I understand about the BM situation I still wish they had a place here as well.
 
I appreciate that Grateful. There have been 125 views of that thread. Clearly there is some traffic over there. I agree that forums without input should be culled in everybody's best interest. Probably better to make me wonder about your knife than to make we wonder about your knife company.

Jack
 
I use the Schrade forum, although not as much as I used to. It can be very informative, but I agree it is lacking in manufacturer/moderator support. While Tim has always been friendly and helpful when he posts, there are very large gaps between posts ( http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=169464 ). Sometimes, an occasional comment would be nice.

In my opinion, if no one else answers a post, the moderator (on a manufacturers forum, at least) should. I do think if the current moderator is unable to post very often, then maybe Schrade could add another moderator. No one says there can't be more than one per forum.

It would be nice if the participation level was more like the Buck or Camillus forums. And while Schrade knives aren't as collectible or sexy as some other brands, they do have their fans. And people do have questions about their products, both old and new.
 
I am very disappointed in Companies that do not take the time to moderate their forums. In my opinion it makes these companies look bad. If they don't have the time or inclination to take part then they should not have forums here at all.
 
One should also note that the most active manufacturer's forums are those where the company's moderators take an active role.

Just to name a few: Buck, Himilayan Imports, Busse, Swamp Rat, Spyderco, American Tomahawk Company--note, I'm not leaving any out intentionally, those are just the ones I remember. Is it surprising that these companies are definately one of the best--if not the best--at what they do? I don't believe so.

It's a win/win situation for any company which has an active presence on these forums. Spark's probably the only person involved who doesn't profit from the deal, which considering the situation is kind of sad.

I may only be a basic member, but I'm definately going to go Gold when I get the chance.

. . . wait, what was I talking about again?

Oh yeah. Schrade. Um. Yeah!
 
i think some companies and people tend to think of it as a passion, while others consider it a job.

So they go to work, do what they hate, come home and really don't want to devote personal time to dealing with questions about the paycheck-provider.

Where you have some folks/companies, who realize selling to US people is what keeps them and their families fed, and they're willing to talk about their products because in the end, it results in better sales. It's basicly marketing, customer support, and satisfaction.

I can definitely see, in many examples, where some companies just don't give a sh!t, and others bend over backwards to hook us up. My opinion has always been, and always will be:

If you take care of me, and it costs me $20 extra overall, then that's a good $20 spent. When i have a problem, i know you'll solve it. So you tend to develop a relationship with that company's products, you're loyal to them, you tell others about them, etc.

The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of low price fades (or something like that). That applies to more than just knife material. I am not taking a stab at Schrade here, i know nothing about them other than the above. Perhaps they just hate their jobs, or dislike people, who knows.

Before culling anyone, I think it would be good to contact the company directly and discuss this with them. Find out if they care about collectors at all, and if not, then they should'nt be wasting space so kindly offered to them at the heart of the knife trader's world.
 
Here's my theory:

Little to very little to no activity on the forum + a very busy moderator = moderator rarely checks in on the forum.

I'm not saying I condone it, but it is probably IMHO.
 
I agree it's frustrating when they dont participate but we need to remember that knife forums are only a very small part of the knife buying world. There's what, about 18000 members here, but there's literally millions of knife buyers in the world. It may just not be that important to them, especially if they're not really knife knuts, but just businessmen.

Another thing is that alot of custom makers and some companies have decided that it's better not to participate. They already have enough business and good name, why risk the chance of public complaints, possible flame wars, and bad publicity.

Anyway, just some thoughts.
 
Good question, I have wanted to learn more a Tiknives, but there is never anyone home(on the forum)! Paul
 
Originally posted by lifter4Him

Another thing is that alot of custom makers and some companies have decided that it's better not to participate. They already have enough business and good name, why risk the chance of public complaints, possible flame wars, and bad publicity.
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This is most certainly the case, but if this is how these companies feel, they should not have forums here. If you are going to have a forum, participate. If you don't want to participate, ask that your forum be removed.

I realize that these companies may be too busy to take part here, but they are not doing their companies image any good by not answering questions asked of them on their forums, even if this is only a small part of the knife buying community.
 
i'd like to ask you guys to refrain from posting.
after reading this, i went on to treasure hunt Wal-mart,
because of this thread, and Vampire Gerbil's sharpener thread..
I now have a Schrade X-Timer and an EZ-Lap from Smith's.


I'm also now broke for the next two weeks, thanks alot :rolleyes:

ah well,
curiosity always gets the best of me, and the opportunity to check out these two products at really decent prices was too hard to resist. I'll try to do a bit of a review on em' both within the next few days.




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Originally posted by trane fan
Maybe this would be a good time to cull some of the unused/low traffic forums and replace them with passaround and multi-tool forums to name two options.
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Well said.
 
Maybe this would be a good time to cull some of the unused/low traffic forums and replace them with passaround and multi-tool forums to name two options.

Well said
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I doubt that will happen since I beleive these companies PAY to have thier forums here don't they.
 
Originally posted by NGK-Webmaster
I doubt that will happen since I beleive these companies PAY to have thier forums here don't they.
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Bare in mind that myself and others are suggesting the formation of a generic multi-tool forum and not one that would focus on, or be moderated by, a specific brand.
 
Originally posted by NGK-Webmaster
I doubt that will happen since I beleive these companies PAY to have thier forums here don't they.
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If they do it is news to me. I know that Spark was looking for support from the manufacturers, but as far as I know they don't have to pay to have a forum here.
 
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