Why not more Case CV?

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sir woodley

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Hello all. Just wondering why Case does not make more CV blades to go with all those great handle options! I am very pleased with my Case knives in CV. However my handle options are VERY limited. I'm drooling over lots of the handle patterns. I guess I'm getting very tempted to try thier SS. Is it even close to CV in edge retinsion and ease of sharpaning? That is what is "best in life." I sure would miss that beautifull patina. M :(
 
While I've been advised by Case's marketing director to expect some new patterns coming out in CV in the coming months, the bottom line is that CV represents a relatively small percentage of their overall sales. (Despite the humble yellow CV trapper being Case's single best selling knife.)

I still maintain that given more scale and pattern options that CV sales would take a larger portion of the overall pie but I guess we'll have to make do with small steps at this juncture.
 
Case stainless seems comparable to whatever Victorinox uses in SAKs, as far as I can tell. It is perfectly functional, gets sharp, and is easy to keep that way.

However, I do prefer carbon - particularly on traditional knives.
 
I heard somewhere that years back, Case started using the "Tru-Sharp" stainless because collectors wanted a steel that would stay clean & new with less maintenance effort, but at the same time provide a good edge for use. Their "Tru-Sharp" is actually 420, but whether it's "C" or "HC" I don't know. Buck uses 420HC, I don't know how Case's 420 would hold up when compared Buck. Might make an interesting comparison to do.

I've got a little Trapper with "Tru-Sharp" blades, and in my opinion, it takes as good an edge as the old CV Stockman I've got. I've got to sharpen the "Tru-Sharp" a little more often, but it holds up pretty well.

thx - cpr

ps - this may not be totally accurate, so somebody please correct me if I'm wrong on any of the details.
 
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It's because the average idiot in this country doesn't know the difference between stainless and CV. They just want something bright and shiny---like a baby does.
 
The low number of Case CV models is the sole reason I started buying Queen knives.
 
I must say, the SS on my Case Sodbuster cuts like crazy. I do buff the edge after I sharpen it, though. I'm sticking with the SS. :)
 
cattleking said:
It's because the average idiot in this country doesn't know the difference between stainless and CV. They just want something bright and shiny---like a baby does.
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Wow thanks for that well thought out reply. What would we do without you?:jerkit:
 
While I prefer CV to True-Sharp, my two Case TS are awesome cutters. My Sod Buster gets heavy duty use in the garden. I took me awhile to get the edge just right but since has been easy to maintain. My Mini-Trapper has always had a good edge. I have had one 1095 knife that was impossible to sharpen. It was a Moore Maker (Camillus). So having a carbon knife is no guarantee that it will perform.

I too have bought Queens for the carbon blades and dresser style (as compared to yellow plastic CV Cases).
 
cattleking said:
It's because the average idiot in this country doesn't know the difference between stainless and CV. They just want something bright and shiny---like a baby does.
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Cattleking, this is the second time today I'm having to reply to your posts.

Please tone down the rhetoric and present your opinions in a reasoned and respectful manner if you wish to continue to post here.

Thanks in advance.
 
I asked myself this question many a times, but after all, most case knives are directed to collectors, that's why its even sadder, that Schrade is no more, their OT's were some fine users.
Buck's 440C is a fine user steel as well, thats why I like my 2 dot ranger so much, but since I collect user#knives, carbon steel is still my all time favorite.

And like pine tree said, a bad heat treat can mess up ANY steel out there, and Buck does one heck of a job, and gets the most out of their 420HC.


Peter
 
From a traditionalists standpoint, yes, absolutely carbon steel! And user standpoint , too!
 
cattleking said:
It's because the average idiot in this country doesn't know the difference between stainless and CV. They just want something bright and shiny---like a baby does.
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This is the pure unvarnished truth nailed the barn door for all to see. WHY are you chastising him for it ?? If the great unwashed do not like it tell 'em to change their ways.
 
Wil, there's ways of expressing yourself and ways of expressing yourself. And opinions vary, even here amongst folks who know their way around a knife.

I don't mind the opinion. Only the method of delivery.

Let's try to keep the forum from becoming a flame throwing pissing contest. Thanks.
 
I used to care more about the carbon vs stainless issue, but these days I'll go with either if its done well. I've used both the CV and stainless, and in a normal day to day use I couldn't tell much of a difference. Unless I was breaking down alot of boxes or something like that, the true sharp does what I want.

For the past couple of weeks I've been using a stainless bone stag peanut, and I like it. But then a sak works for me too. Its all good.

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Sometimes I think we make too much of the steel thing. If the knife functions, and it's pleasing to our own particular taste, does it make that much difference to most people? Most people carry thier pocket knives around with them, using them on occasion to open a package, assist in a lunch out someplace, whittle a bit, cut a piece of twine for the garden stakes, sharpen a pencil now and then.

Having a sak, a Buck cadet, and a stainless peanut in rotation, they all seem to work. But the peanut's prettier.
 
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Gee, I thought we outgrew the childish steel snobbery in this sub forum.

I've recently had a resurgence of interest in stainless, myself. I've found myself using knives for food in my office, and don't really want to deal with having a stop what I'm doing to go rinse a carbon blade. Besides, it turns my apples dark and smelly.

-- Sam
 
More CV knives would be a great thing IMO.

Some nice fixed blades, lockbacks, medium and large toothpicks, folding hunters (one and two blade styles)...

The new companies making traditional knives in carbon steel seem to be doing very well...
Great Eastern/Northfield/Tidioute; Colonel Coon (love that name); along with the traditional offerings in carbon steel (& D2) from Queen.

Plus, I noticed today that Ka Bar has re-started the old Union brand, so I guess they see a trend that's working and that's profitable.
 
Most of my Case knives are CV. One is very old, three are yellow Delrin, and one is TS with blue bone. All will do. The TS is steel. I am more worried about being able to use it and sharpen it than what it is made of.

I got an older Old Timer the other week. It was so easy to clean that edge up, I had forgotten how sharp they can get. I enjoy the heck out of that knife. 1095, just plain tool steel.
 
rifon2 said:
More CV knives would be a great thing IMO.

Some nice fixed blades, lockbacks, medium and large toothpicks, folding hunters (one and two blade styles)...

The new companies making traditional knives in carbon steel seem to be doing very well...
Great Eastern/Northfield/Tidioute; Colonel Coon (love that name); along with the traditional offerings in carbon steel (& D2) from Queen.

Plus, I noticed today that Ka Bar has re-started the old Union brand, so I guess they see a trend that's working and that's profitable.
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Colonel Coon knives are made by Queen if I'm not mistaken.
 
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