Why So Fast?

While I don't have any use for AO or automatics, I don't have any use for thumb nicks, either. I like one-hand opening knives and wouldn't choose a thumb nick over a hole , disc, or stud ever. To me, they've past their time as well. I look at manual one-hand opening as pretty much perfect for any task I could think of, as it gets the knife opened in a safe and controlled manner.
 
I'm of the opinion that thumb discs, thumb holes, etc. are the next best thing to bread - n - butter.

You don't have to do the super fast flash opening thing, but one hand operation is great (convenient, efficient, etc.).

I look at these developements as a natural progression. Legislation basically outlawed auto-openers (and the other evil knives - like balis), so people sought the convenience they offered. Ta-dah -- the "thumb - whatever - opener."

Same basic function - open a knife with one hand.
 
How about this: It's fun and more convienient. I don't need to justify fun. For convience, if it takes 4 seconds to open a slip joint and 2 to open an A/O, that would mean that it takes 200% times longer to open the slip joint. As small as that may sound, the cumulative effect over a life-long hobby of knife usage can definitely be substantial. Did I mention it's fun?
 
Slow Hand
- Pointer Sisters

I'm tired of fast moves
I've got a slow groove...
On my mind
I want a man with a slow hand
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60 Minute Man
- William Ward

I'll rock 'em, roll 'em all night long
I'm a 60 minute man.
 
One handed opening was never the issue. I open my 110s and my Spyderco Endura one handed. While the 110 nail nick is a friction point for my thumb, admittedly the Spyder hole is the easier of the 2 as it offers more grip.

IGGY...it takes 100% longer to open the slip joint if the AO is twice as fast...
'% times longer' makes no sense mathematically. But I do get your drift.
Considering how much time we have wasted discussing this you will likely never make it up over a lifetime of faster knife usage.
 
Merek said:
Considering how much time we have wasted discussing this you will likely never make it up over a lifetime of faster knife usage.
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"How about this: It's fun and more convienient." -- ignoramus, you are no ignoramus :D
 
If 3 guys jump your ass or a big "mother" backs you up against your car at Walmart, you'll wish you knew how to draw you knife fast. Even "fast" isn't fast enough in some situations. If you don't carry a knife for self defense, then take all day to open it. But if you do, you'd best learn how to use it and that includes getting it into play as fast a possible.
 
I think the Spyderhole and thumbstud are a couple of the best inovations since cold beer but I've never really warmed up to the AO's or waved knives. Each to their own, but in my humble opinion the AO and wave seem to be a lot more flash than substance. (not that there is anything wrong with that - before I got married I dated a lot of women with more flash than substance. :D )
 
Knives are tools. Even a self defense oriented knife is still a tool. I'm a mechanic. I want the best tools available. I want to do things the quickest easiest way possible. I couldn't open a slip joint at some points during work, with gloves covered in grease, a slip joint wouldn't be an option. A spyderco works great.
 
bladeprince said:
If 3 guys jump your ass or a big "mother" backs you up against your car at Walmart, you'll wish you knew how to draw you knife fast. Even "fast" isn't fast enough in some situations. If you don't carry a knife for self defense, then take all day to open it. But if you do, you'd best learn how to use it and that includes getting it into play as fast a possible.
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Please don't go that route.:yawn:




I work for a window manufacturer, my job title is expediting (which means to do quickly) I assemble the finished product and each window must be tied with a heavy string upon completion.

I have learned to draw the knife, open, make the cut, close and return to pocket very quickly, there's nothing Commando about it.

I assemble anywhere from 40 to 60 windows a day, among other duties.

Opening a knife quickly (you might say) earns me a living.
 
Hey Cougar,

Send this over to W&C please.

Merek,

You insinuate that everyone who uses Auto, AO or even flicks out thier knife is being irresponsible and is a detrement to society in whole. Fine, that's your opinion, but that's all it is. Be ready for alternate view points without sticking labels on anyone who does not totally agree with you. This whole site is going downhill fast as I see a majority of posts ending up as pointless, useless arguements(like this one). Do you people really have nothing better to do? This used to be a place to exchange ideas, now it seems to be just a bunch of oversensitive whiners who start bitching the first chance they get. As for me, I am going to stop posting after my review of the Scorpian 6 passaround and lotto. I'll be watching for information I desire, but will not be posting as most of you have lost your sense of humor and ability to consider alternative ideas.

Flame away! :yawn:
 
Like someone else mentioned, certain work environments require quick efficient opening of packaging and materials. Another big consideration for me is just being able to have the option of quick 1-hand opening. I don't always whip it out fast; sometimes I even open my EDC with 2 hands if I feel my surroundings warrant that approach. When I do need or want (you have to admit the action of a well made knife is very satisfying :D ) to open my knife fast, it better be up to the task though.
 
Bilker said:
Flame away! :yawn:
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:confused:

flame what? this thread has held one of the more reasonable and lighthearted debates we've had lately.

don't confuse the gult of loudmouth noobs we've had lately with veteran posters.

to stay on topic. in my line of work, alot of the time I'm 50 feet up in the air hanging by a harness and one hand, I like to do things quickly so I can get down.
 
This used to be a place to exchange ideas, now it seems to be just a bunch of oversensitive whiners who start bitching the first chance they get.
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Man, you think this is bad, check my marijuana thread. Couldn't even get one reply before people started taking stabs. It's really kind of sad how uncivilized this whole forum acts around certain topics.....hygeine (EDC knife in restaraunts thread insults flying everywhere), anyone who comes off as mall ninja-ish, marijuana and so on.

I think I'm going to EDC a chive for a week, then a Victorinox Classic. See how the opening mechanisms (Or lack of) affects my satisfaction with each knife.
 
The quicker you can open your knife, the sooner you can use it. Simple question, simple answer. Speed isn't an issue with a Buck 110 as most owners enjoy fumbling it in cold, wet weather. For others, however, a knife can't open too fast -- only too slow.

It's like asking why a knife needs a lock-open device. The answer is likewise simple. It just does.
 
Well, got my first, rather deep, bite today from a Subcom F.
Opening fast = good IF NECESSARY (save lives). Otherwise, there's really no point. Practicing fast opening with a folder is necessary for those who think a folder is a good tool for potentially lethal self-defense - and that's that.

I'm with Merek's stance that, for utility purposes (assuming killing someone is NOT a use of any sharp/pointy object), there is no reason to rush.
 
Why do people buy cars that go well above and beyond the legal speed limit and above reasonable speed you'll ever need?!?!?!? Hell, with your metality soon there will be a SPEED LIMITER in all cars!!!! We like fast, strong, better, nice looking, superior, capable etc. Me? my AO opens up by pushng the kicker with no shifting of the hand grip in the handle..... swiclick!!!! ready to cut! Also, AO is superior for large folders which are harder to operate just by thumb studs....
 
One handed opening is a plus for me, mainly cause I'm usually holding the object I'm cutting with my other hand...
BTW: if you need to quick draw a knife, you weren't paying attention to your surroundings anyways..
 
BladeGoblin said:
Please don't go that route.:yawn:

I work for a window manufacturer, my job title is expediting (which means to do quickly) I assemble the finished product and each window must be tied with a heavy string upon completion.

I have learned to draw the knife, open, make the cut, close and return to pocket very quickly, there's nothing Commando about it.

I assemble anywhere from 40 to 60 windows a day, among other duties.

Opening a knife quickly (you might say) earns me a living.
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I don't know why you had a problem with my response. I was not talking about the practical side of opening a knife quickly. I think it's great that it helps you with your job. But for most people, knife access and opening speed is usually realated to self defense, not their job or opening a package.
 
Merek said:
This is a question which has been bugging me for awhile. Why is there such a drive to OPEN a knife so quickly? I deploy my knife 1 handed as necessary (off the shelf Buck 110) and open most others using both hands. I do not own, nor care to own,any balisongs or assisted openers due to my 'simpler is better' nature. Most of us claim not to carry for SD and the reality of that is truely open for debate.
That excluded as an issue, what necessity is there to git 'er done?
Is the box going to run away before you can safely open your blade? Is that thread so annoying that it must be conquered instantly? Must the dog food bag be dealt extreme predjudice without hesitation? Is there such mental satisfaction in whipping that shiny blade out with an audble 'snick!' that a moments reflection on the task must be compromised?
Why such a blamed HURRY to open the knife when the task will likely not be compromised by a few seconds invested in opening your knife safely in such a way as to not alarm people around you and to perhaps show children that judicious handling demonstrates respect for the knife as a tool and not to use it as a flashy Hollywood-esque look-at-me thing.
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Why do people buy corvettes when you could drive a honda. Lemme guess, the small penis excuse.
 
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