Why So Much Criticism Of Inexpensive Knives Like Rough Rider And Why Is Perfect Blade Centering So Important?

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Gene said:
Hey gents thanks for all your varied opinions. All very interesting! I watch some of those videos on Youtube because they’re so silly. Criticizing to the umph degree about a $10.00 knife! Blade centering is a little off, back spacers have some slight gaps, bolsters have some minute gaps. Yikes! This is a $10.00 knife! Love watching them sometimes as they make me laugh!

I can understand that if you spend $150.00-$200.00 or much more for a knife, you would want it to be perfect even considering blade centering. But come on and be honest, if you spend that much on a knife, it’s not going to be used much if at all and just taken out once in awhile and be admired. Like A.G. Russell said a long time ago, “we’re not really knife users but knife accumulator’s” and that’s fine.

Whatever you do with your money and your knives is perfectly okay and hand made knives deserve to be expensive as it takes hours to produce one and the ones who can do it are real craftspeople but I still suspect that CNC is still in the background and that’s also fine.

I like these RR knives and especially at their price point and are a super bargains for what you get and you can use the hell out of them and not worry about it and enjoy your expensive knives that are to be admired.

I too wish all knives could be made in America like in the old days where they were made all by hand and there were no CNC machines and they sold at a fair price and most of the time were flawless. These RR knives and others even though made in China give the new knife “accumulators” a chance to enjoy knives without the high entry fee.

Hey, enjoy what you all like no matter what. I’m not here to judge anything even though it may seem like I am and sometimes I am. The knife world is wonderful and I like that we all have different opinions and they’re all viable.

See you on my next rant and peace and well being to all!
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I have knives worth more than a few hundred dollars, and they are users. I only collect knives for my grandbabies. All of mine are users. I figure at 62, why collect? May as well have some fun with them.
I also love CNC's.
 
NG VI said:
You fellas do understand the difference between evaluating or assessing vs criticizing, don't you?
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Several options available:

1. Axe, saw, string, unprocessed wood.
2. Hammer, nails, plywood sheets, 2×4's.
3. Ready shelter.

8 hours to prepare for a 100 year snowstorm.

4. Go back home.

I would use it all and stay.

A perfectedly centered blade is intuitive, therefore one less distraction.

Of course, I would have a fixed blade with great steel. However, that's a whole other set of topics...
 
calm said:
I always wonder how Jack Wolf knives get a pass on country of origin whereas RR, owned by a US company too, do not. I assume that being a lot more expensive gives them more prestige :)
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The profile of the JW knives leans heavily on GEC but with a modern distinct twist such as the fat grind lines and ditto carbon scales.
The owner is good at sweet talking and a bunch of them YouTube knife experts are given every new $300 JW knife to "evaluate".
 
Delgadonine said:
Several options available:

1. Axe, saw, string, unprocessed wood.
2. Hammer, nails, plywood sheets, 2×4's.
3. Ready shelter.

8 hours to prepare for a 100 year snowstorm.

4. Go back home.

I would use it all and stay.

A perfectedly centered blade is intuitive, therefore one less distraction.

Of course, I would have a fixed blade with great steel. However, that's a whole other set of topics...
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Bro, centering in a folder isn't going to 'distract you' from building a shelter, and if it does, then I don't think you were meant to survive alone in the first place.

Honestly, none of us are meant to go it alone, even if we prefer solitude and have the resources to attain it. But if the kind of centering critique that this thread is supposedly about is enough to put you off your "I need a place to weather this storm and not die" game, then you really shouldn't have been out in the woods without a chaperone to begin with.
 
NG VI said:
Bro, centering in a folder isn't going to 'distract you' from building a shelter, and if it does, then I don't think you were meant to survive alone in the first place.

Honestly, none of us are meant to go it alone, even if we prefer solitude and have the resources to attain it. But if the kind of centering critique that this thread is supposedly about is enough to put you off your "I need a place to weather this storm and not die" game, then you really shouldn't have been out in the woods without a chaperone to begin with.
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Maybe look up the definition of the verbs you used? I took your use as literal. Or were you just trying to be pedantic?

A perfectly centered blade matters at home and moreso in hard use. And yes, on the rare occasion of survival.
 
So I guess the reason a knife without a perfectly centered blade cannot be used is because you refuse to use it....

Makes sense to me.
 
Gene said:
I can understand that if you spend $150.00-$200.00 or much more for a knife, you would want it to be perfect even considering blade centering. But come on and be honest, if you spend that much on a knife, it’s not going to be used much if at all and just taken out once in awhile and be admired.
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Now that is just a silly comment.
 
Gene said:
I can understand that if you spend $150.00-$200.00 or much more for a knife, you would want it to be perfect even considering blade centering. But come on and be honest, if you spend that much on a knife, it’s not going to be used much if at all and just taken out once in awhile and be admired. Like A.G. Russell said a long time ago, “we’re not really knife users but knife accumulator’s” and that’s fine.
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You do have a nag for poking people, don't you ?

I spend 40 bucks at Jack in the Box for a meal for two, and more than $100 to fill up my gas tank (CA here as well). I don't understand why I should bother with a 10-20$ Chinese POC.
 
GPyro said:
So I guess the reason a knife without a perfectly centered blade cannot be used is because you refuse to use it....

Makes sense to me.
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'Buy'. I won't buy anything below my standard. I will gladly pay for a blade that meets my standards and 'use' it.

I won't use a knife that doesn't meet my expectations and requirements. Particularly when it matters most!
 
Kettleman said:
Now that is just a silly comment.
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ferider said:
You do have a nag for poking people, don't you ?

I spend 40 bucks at Jack in the Box for a meal for two, and more than $100 to fill up my gas tank (CA here as well). I don't understand why I should bother with a 10-20$ Chinese POC.
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He (apparently) doesn't know what he doesn't know, or doesn't care to know it. No point in either getting riled by it or taking it personally.

I see lots of $400+ knives being used, (and often hard), here regularly.

It's certainly not a secret waiting to be discovered.

(Enjoy what you enjoy, and leave everyone else to do the same, I figure.)
 
mak1277 said:
What’s the point of paying for membership if you don’t use the site to buy or sell?
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There are certain perks offered with paid membership...such as the ability to trade knives, and PMs and such.

More importantly, there are costs involved with running the site incurred by the owner. Paid memberships help defray the costs of operation.

The owner has never required registered members to pay for the privilege of visiting and posting on this site, so the question I suppose you should ask yourself is why should he allow you to do that, and what do you actually contribute to the community?
 
GPyro said:
I enjoy the irony of strong opinions on knife requirements from people that won't even spend $10 to become a basic member here.

🤔
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Why? Many reasons why some might not want to, or be able to, pay for a site such as this, but I fail to see how it would influence their opinions or its value.

(For the record, I won't pay a membership here for 3 reasons. First is on principle, content is privided by the users, which brings traffic, which brings advertisement and sponsorship revenue stream... And you want to charge the content providers on top? Nah. Second, I have absolutely nothing to sell or want to buy, I don't even have paypal, so have no use of the "extra priviledges". Thirdly, I'm retired and on fixed income, I need another monthly bill like I need a hole in my head.)
 
Years past when slip joints were the most common knives never worried about blade centering or steel types. Main thing I guess was spring tension, fit in the hand and did it cut stuff. That was before YouTube, Bladeforus etc. Blade centering is nice and I like my blade to be centered.
 
Floatingby said:
Why? Many reasons why some might not want to, or be able to, pay for a site such as this, but I fail to see how it would influence their opinions or its value.

(For the record, I won't pay a membership here for 3 reasons. First is on principle, content is privided by the users, which brings traffic, which brings advertisement and sponsorship revenue stream... And you want to charge the content providers on top? Nah. Second, I have absolutely nothing to sell or want to buy, I don't even have paypal, so have no use of the "extra priviledges". Thirdly, I'm retired and on fixed income, I need another monthly bill like I need a hole in my head.)
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Imagine the money you could save by dropping your internet bill!



So far as blade centering is concerned... I'm another one who doesn't worry too much as long and there isn't rub on the liners, but I'm also not above getting out the brass hammer and crinking a blade a bit if I'm dissatisfied. This all being on knives around $100 and less. On something I spent a bit more money on, I'd much prefer a centered blade.
 
Gene said:
I can understand that if you spend $150.00-$200.00 or much more for a knife, you would want it to be perfect even considering blade centering. But come on and be honest, if you spend that much on a knife, it’s not going to be used much if at all and just taken out once in awhile and be admired.
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Speak for yourself. My knives get used.

As for why I prefer to spend more money on knives - I like to support real craftsmanship and quality. I don't like buying cheap junk, and esp. not from countries I don't support. To each their own.
 
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