Why would kershaw discontinue sg2 steel?

[Dorito Monk]

Does any other company besides Kerhsaw/Shun use SG2 steel? I thought Fallkniven used to use it, but I could be thinking of something else...

 

[The Mastiff]

I thought Fallkniven used to use it, but I could be thinking of something else..

They have used it laminated with 420J in the U2( called that SGPS), and laminated in VG2 for all the other blades where they call it 3G . The also do have VG10/420J laminated fixed blades, as well as 3G fixed blades. To confuse things further they make a Cowry X fixed blade, and have a sprint run of folders using the new Takefu "cobalt special". Takefu is the foundry that makes VG10, VG2, Super gold 1 and 2, as well as a bunch more good stuff. http://www.e-tokko.com/eng_original_list.htm

 

[PG5768]

Much Obliged for the offer Thomas,

They are likely gone by now. They're a hand full of folks that hang around the campsite refuse area. They are always looking for the fixable or usable tool that others leave behind. I'm sure that our loss was their gain.


Anthony

It astonishes me that you threw away $300 worth of knives. Wish I could afford to leave $300 lying on the ground.

 

[PG5768]

SG2 like any steel has it's strengths and weaknesses.

On occasion, I believe the user either doesn't know, or has expectations that exceed the knife, or in this case, the steel.

I believe SG2 to be a really solid preforming steel in certain applications, but was nervous about utilizing SG2 in a pocket knife. It's strengths would excel with cutting and slicing, but rugged use could show its fragile side. We ground the blades to be quite thin with it's geometry [specifically the JYD II), and for most that used the blades, SG2 was/is exceeding with performance. Prying, bone strikes, batoning, are not going to bring pretty results with this steel.

Again, one has to come to an understanding of the tool in your hand, and the job you have in front of you. Just because it's a knife (even a high dollar piece), doesn't mean you shouldn't proceed with caution.

I guarantee you if you used the 1725SG2 in this manner, it would fail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyl2CGb2N38

On a side note, I'll keep telling myself that thinner is better...I learned that on this very forum.

Very well said, Thomas. Love that video!

 

[shotgunner11]

It astonishes me that you threw away $300 worth of knives. Wish I could afford to leave $300 lying on the ground.

And I'm sure that the people who "gave" him $300 worth of knives to "test" would be absolutely thrilled to hear that he thought so much of their generosity as to throw them away.

High class all the way.

 

[Dorito Monk]

They have used it laminated with 420J in the U2( called that SGPS), and laminated in VG2 for all the other blades where they call it 3G . The also do have VG10/420J laminated fixed blades, as well as 3G fixed blades. To confuse things further they make a Cowry X fixed blade, and have a sprint run of folders using the new Takefu "cobalt special". Takefu is the foundry that makes VG10, VG2, Super gold 1 and 2, as well as a bunch more good stuff. http://www.e-tokko.com/eng_original_list.htm

Thanks for the info!

 

[PG5768]

And I'm sure that the people who "gave" him $300 worth of knives to "test" would be absolutely thrilled to hear that he thought so much of their generosity as to throw them away.

High class all the way.

Couldn't have said it better myself.:thumbup:

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Beating on the steel or the knives in the General Knife Discussion is OK;
beating on each other is not. There are other forums better suited to that.

 

[thombrogan]

the sg2 kitchen knives in the thinner format are known for not being robust it is discussed on occasion on another forum dedicated to kitchen knives

kershaw sg2 and blazen sg2 are known to chip pretty readily with less than careful use which is typical for the avg cook.

I'd say that's just the way Ryusen does things. It wasn't too long ago that they started softening the heat-treatment on their OEM damascus-clad VG-10 knives because of chipping problems. No complaints about their earlier SGPS Blazen, though.

My KAI Shun kitchen knives in SG-2 hold up just fine. Even donated my first one (Shun Elite 8" Chefs Knife) to my parents and it's done fine, too.