That 40% off on promotive adds up quick if you end up buying all the stuff the pro pack has. I'm not sure if they ship to APOs, but if they do you could avoid the wack sales tax they offer on that site. Also, if you're gonna drop the dough call up wicked edge and tell them to include the new arms and guide system with it to eliminate blade play and make sharpening some knives easier with a taller mount. That will be an extra cost of $145 but they will take 25% off for being a promotive member. Overall if you buy all the propack 1 crap and the new arms to pretty much turn it into the pro pack II it will still be cheaper than ordering direct, but still still like 500-600 for a sharpening system. SCOUTS OUT. Stay safe brother!