Wilderness knife design question-----from Dr.Bill

WILLIAM.M said:
Thanks Bro

I just do not suffer being accused of something I did not do.

Feel free to post answers I do not like--I could NOT care less.

Insult me--and we have a problem.

Or worse---insulting the question and then replying with a totally different answer.

Like Brain said--if you do not like my questions---don't reply.

Even someone who calls the 8th Grade his Senior year could understand that...

Or even better-----

POST YOUR OWN QUESTIONS

I've been teaching Martial Arts since 1972 and know how to teach and ask questions-but there are always those that you can not reach.

This post was made not to sell Siegles Knives(He does not need my help for that


Just thought I would start a post asking what blade length and grip design most people would like the best

If I had a VAST collection of all sorts of knives I would have posted A GROUP PHOTO them to choose from.

All of those Siegles shown in this post are no longer owned by me---I used a group photo taken last year to ask the question.
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Let me say that I apologize for offending you. It was a snarky comment and one that shouldn't have been said.

I think the reason we're having issues is that you're trying to dictate to people how and what they can and cannot say in your threads. Put yourself in my shoes. If some guy on the internet is trying to tell you what you can and cannot say would you be okay with that or would it piss you the hell off?
 
Blade #4 with handle #5.

The blade is long enough to handle just about any task.

The blade is tall enough that I could grab it in various grips for detailed work.

The blade is thick enough for non-standard tasks i.e. prying.

The handle has a nice "hook" style end which helps with gloved use as well as gives the user the ability to "choke back" on the handle for more leverage when hacking at things.

The long blade maximizes the use of straight angles which for a non-expert sharpener like myself is best.

Beautiful collection Dr. Bill!

-Stan
 
stanley_white said:
Blade #4 with handle #5.

The blade is long enough to handle just about any task.

The blade is tall enough that I could grab it in various grips for detailed work.

The blade is thick enough for non-standard tasks i.e. prying.

The handle has a nice "hook" style end which helps with gloved use as well as gives the user the ability to "choke back" on the handle for more leverage when hacking at things.

The long blade maximizes the use of straight angles which for a non-expert sharpener like myself is best.

Beautiful collection Dr. Bill!

-Stan
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Great answer Stan--

-VERY WELL thought out!!!!

I no longer have any of those Siegles---
 
I would choose the handle on #2 and the blade on #4. I would go straight with #4, but I prefer a less flared pommel. The blade on #4 is one of my favorite shapes for a large chopper. All of those knives look great and would get the job done. BTW, I love big knives. Not always necessary but fun to use.
Scott
 
Gossman Knives said:
I would choose the handle on #2 and the blade on #4. I would go straight with #4, but I prefer a less flared pommel. The blade on #4 is one of my favorite shapes for a large chopper. All of those knives look great and would get the job done. BTW, I love big knives. Not always necessary but fun to use.
Scott
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I agree--very fun to use..

Much more so than an Axe or saw.(for me)

Have a great Thanksgiving
 
Hmmmmmm, I'll have to go with No 4 but ...DR Bill, there is a problem here ........

Having handled but one or two Siegles I cannot find a reason why any of those shown won't work. Fit and finish is top notch, functionality is not optional and lines are clean and well excecuted in superior metals .......

Would it be considered rude to imply that personal preferance dictate choice?

Have a great day!@!@!

And that Siegel in Africa is doing just dandy :D

Aubrey
 
This about sums it up for me too. I love #5 and would happily carry it anywhere.

t1mpani said:
I have several (several several several) knives from Bill, many similar to what is up here, and will preface this by saying that if you have ANY of them and can't get along in the wild, you're a poor outdoorsman. :)

That said, I have to lean the hardest on #5. I believe leaf-shaped blades to be the best of just about all worlds. Endless (almost) belly that cuts everything well (like a recurve) and is easy to sharpen by anybody with even a pebble's worth of skill (less like a recurve) all while converging in a point that's more than fine enough for anything you'd ever need a point for, directly in line with the handle for drilling.

It's big enough and small enough. Pair it with a SAK (one that has a saw) and I don't know what you couldn't achieve in the outdoors. Also, as one who had to lug more than eighty pounds around with him, ALL DAY EVERY DAY, whether I wanted to or not, I have to say that the concern of a few ounces more or less really could not mean less to me. I've carried tomahawks/hatchets into the wilds before, and no longer do---how nice that there are those here with vastly different experiences/preferences to keep things interesting. :D
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"The Question is this

You have to bring one of these Knives with you the next time you go into the woods(you can bring other knives,axes,machetes,chain saws,etc as well) "

In that case I'd chop with my axe, whittle with my Kephart and pick the 6th blade down just because it looks so damn cool !:D
 
I'd like to see the handle of #2 and the blade profile of #3 in the size of #1.

I like a handle drop on choppers and although #2 doesn't have much of a "ball" at the heel, the others (e.g. #5) are too squared-off for me...I like curves whenever possible for comfort and aesthetics.

The profile of #3 is similar to #1, but as mentioned has a slightly more acute point and is subtly more pleasing than #1. However, knife #1 has the size (I'm assuming 10-12" blade) that makes it more useful for chopping, brushing, batonning, drawcutting, etc. than the smaller knives.
 
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I would probably pcik #7 if I were able to take along other cutting gear (axe, saw, other knives). It has a smooth handle to keep hot-spots/blisters down to a minimum if you have to use it for extended periods, it has a satin finish so it could be used for food prep if cleaned up, and has a good overall drop point design, small enough to be portable.

I for one am a believer in using the right tool for the job--yes, if your in a survival situation, you use what ya got, and I'm not talking a short/limited instance where its faster/more efficient to just use what's at hand than stop and unpack/strap something else.

But knives are by and large most efficient for cutting. Chopping or sawing is much more efficient when done with a saw or hatchet/axe. When you get to the point where you're not screwing around too much, not trying to glamorize something for an internet post, calories count, and you have a significant amount of cutting to be done, you'll learn pretty quickly that using the right tool is the better choice. A $50 pack saw or hatchet/axe will often go through thicker material alot more efficiently than a multi-hundred dollar knife. Not to say the knives aren't great, and if I could only take ONE cutting tool, that would make a world of difference.

FWIW, I normally carry a folder and multi-tool with me on day hikes, and have small survival hatchet that I'd take on longer trips.

YMMV,
BOSS
 
Aubrey said:
Hmmmmmm, I'll have to go with No 4 but ...DR Bill, there is a problem here ........

Having handled but one or two Siegles I cannot find a reason why any of those shown won't work. Fit and finish is top notch, functionality is not optional and lines are clean and well excecuted in superior metals .......

Would it be considered rude to imply that personal preferance dictate choice?

Have a great day!@!@!

And that Siegel in Africa is doing just dandy :D

Aubrey
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All of them would work fine Bro--

I was curious to see what features most people would like on a Knife they took out to the Woods..

I just posted another question--Be sure to check that one out as well.
 
Blade of #7 down, Handle of #3 down with a little curve to the top of the tang and more subtle curve to the bottom of the tang. With no choil and minimal guard. I love the square butt!
 
I would choose number 7 as it stands; really like what I see and feel the design would work for me.
 
Of these Knives pictured, I think I would go with #4 blade #5 Handle.
I would Prefer his Jungle Knife ..lol or his Large Hoodlum, but of these pictured, I really like the way handle 5 wraps around a bit to really make the grip feel secure even in different angles of swing. Blade 4 is long enough to do real chopping looks thick enough to handle the abuse, and the edge is clean and straight so easy to sharpen, and less margin for error as far as figuring out the sweet spot. Curved, Leaf, and Recurves tend to be like Kukries and have a tough learning curve for where you really want to strike on the blade for the best cut in my experience.
Just my input.
 
OK, so this is a bit of a zombie thread - a couple weeks old.... ;-)

I'd choose the handle scales/blade of #7 but with the handle *design/lines* and choil (?)/finger-groove of #8.

I really like the drop point blade design of #7 - very clean and looks like it would be super versatile. I believe it could do about everything from drilling (nice, strong tip and good central line in relation to the handle) to batonning (and everything in between!!!) with equal aplomb. The blade length seems fine, as i read it's ~8", not too much for more intricate cutting/shaping/slicing nor too little to make some big cuts/chops.

The handle also looks great - nice and comfy for extended cutting tasks. However, i like a little extra material btw me and a sharp edge so the handle shape and choil/finger-groove of #8 with the nice, full scales on #7 would be a great combo.
 
Handle: slightly down-curved #3 with #2 front shape
I don't like ergonomic contored handle, but still need an index finger guard

Blade: bit narrower #5
Enough length of curved part for utility, but feels a little wide and massive

Like this
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