Wilderness & Survival Skills Extreme Build Off

If at all possible could you mark off 2" of blade between some tape and use that area to scrape bone to a depth of 3/8 inch. Then test it to see how much weight it takes on the same 2" space to cut a piece of rope. Obviously cut the rope prior for the control. The blade that has the smallest variance in weight from the control until after the scrpaing wins the edge retention test? Just a thought so Rick can build some type of badA$$ device to make it work. This is real world for me as just after I finish cleaning an animal I end up having to cut something else.
 
May I suggest a story line challenge? Just to make things fun.

Example said:
You start off on the edge of a forest in a post apocalyptic zombie world ("The Walking Dead" TV show seems to be a popular forum topic at the moment). Across a grassy field you see an old abandoned armory. The goal is to get inside the armory and get supplies inside. The challenge that the knife suffers a catastrophic failure on, or fails to perform the task within a reasonable time frame, is when the maker "dies" from zombies.

Challenge #1: Zombie Ambush
Quickly make a spear capable of fending off multiple zombies (how quickly/easily can it carve hard wood into a spear).

Challenge #2: Close Quarters Combat
Your spear broke; hack and slash through the remaining zombies (cut through an animal leg of some sort).

Challenge #3: The Outer Perimeter
You've successfully fended off the zombies... for now. After crossing the field you come to a chain link fence surrounding the armory (either cut through a section of chain link, or successfully bust open a lock).

Challenge #4: Stranger at the Window
You've checked all of the doors, but all of them are solid and bolted up tight. But there is a small window in the back. Smash through the window to gain entrance into the armory (breaking glass and/or cutting through mullions and transoms (wood/plastic)).

Challenge #5: Smash and Grab
In the armory there are numerous wooden crates full of guns and ammunition. Break open the crates and grab what you can (successfully pry apart, or cut through a pallet).

Challenge #6: Knock, Knock, Knock'in at My Door
The remaining zombies have crossed the field and are looking to get inside the armory. Using pieces of the smashed up crates and the crate's nails board up the broken window to buy some time (use your blade as a hammer to drive nails).

Challenge #7: Dude, Where's My Car
You find an armored car in the Armory's garage. However, before you can hot-wire the car you need to hack through the slatted sheet metal armor covering the windows (cut through a section of sheet metal).

Challenge #8: Release the Hounds
Before you can leave you need to tie down your supplies. Search the armory for a length of rope or cable to secure your cargo with (cut through 1" rope or 1/2"cable).

If you've successfully made it this far you're home free. You get to live for another day.

I'm sure there are more/better challenges. But a story might be fun and the judges can decide if/when/how people die when their blades fail to perform. Just a thought.
 
cutting thru sheet steel , like a car hood , has kinda got to be one of the tests involved in my opinion , preferabely thru double paneling , like hood skin and frame at the same time .

I say this only because I made a lil knife for my bro , he was complaining that the stainless just he could buy would blunt to dam fast cutting seatbelts and battery cable . ( towie , often first on scene at traffic wrecks , kinda used to doing the first aid thing and preventing cars turning into barbeque tombs for their occupants if people was trapped )

I made him this ( most of you seen it before )
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within something like 48 hours after he got his hands on it , he had indeed used it , to baton ( using a BIG shifter spanner as a baton ) a large hole in a wrecked cars hood to access the battery , and cut the battery cables . The frost of the car had been crushed , the battery was venting out , the wiring harness smoking up , bigtime , and there was a broken fuel line somewhere .. electirc fuel pump still going doing its thing .. he didnt have a lot of time to think about technique and stuff , just do it .


The knife did lose its shaving sharp edge in a couple places , but was still plenty sharp to be " working" sharp .

cutting steel , then slicing a couple seat belts seem to me to be a fair test of a heavy duty type blade ..

well this is my opinion , based on real life survial / rescue experiences that was kinda close to home for me . Nothing like some reality in extreme testing of stuff either :)
 
Yeah, pallets are good. Just talked to a guy today who said he was chopping down a target board and accidentally hit a nail so I think that is a fair test. For the chain link, barbed wire, padlocks, etc. I was think that most people don't live too far from a dump, scrap yard or junk yard and all of those things could probably be gathered there.
 
This is going to be a lot of fun and it'll be great to see what all different designs come out of it. I definitely think we should keep the tests practical. Extreme but practical. See if the tool works for the intended purpose before going in to destruction mode. Gettin in to a locked building/ car, opening crates, getting through fence, processing wood for a fire/ shelter, skinning and quartering game, cracking some bone to fashion other tools, self defense. What else? These are obviously not original ideas, just ones I can think of.
 
Mine is cut, profiled and ground.

I guess I probably should have waited to see what the testing was going to be. Hopefully getting yourself out of a concrete enclosure is pert of the challenge.

I had all these freak show, video game looking designs that I ended up trashing and going with a traditional pattern I am very fond of.
 
Mine is cut, profiled and ground.

I guess I probably should have waited to see what the testing was going to be. Hopefully getting yourself out of a concrete enclosure is pert of the challenge.

I had all these freak show, video game looking designs that I ended up trashing and going with a traditional pattern I am very fond of.

Looking forward to seeing it Michael!

We'll try and get the testing criteria nailed asap.
 
Mine is cut, profiled and ground.

I guess I probably should have waited to see what the testing was going to be. Hopefully getting yourself out of a concrete enclosure is pert of the challenge.

I had all these freak show, video game looking designs that I ended up trashing and going with a traditional pattern I am very fond of.

did you send me a sketch of the final version?
 
Yeah, but I'll look for the emails in my sent box and forward them again tomorrow. I'd do it now but I don't want anything to get in the way of enjoying this IPA.
 
good call brother!
and I just checked out your FB page - I'm pretty sure I have that sketch here somewhere.
 
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