Will CRK reissue a birth card?

nbp said:
Why do they feel it is necessary to reblast the light when they work on it? That doesn't make any sense to me. I don't see how the texture of the slabs should affect the function of the knife. I am working hard to add character to my two new Sebs and if I had to send one in for a mechanical repair and it came back with a new bead blasted finish I'd be annoyed.
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Specific work requires re-blasting the scales, because the work damages the finish. You would not be happy with the result if they did not refinish it. I don't know if they still have to but when they used to do the double lugs they had enlarge the cut out on the lockside. Re-doing the heat treat on the lock face is another example. Otherwise it is optional, but if not wanted you should state so-and I would even note that on both sides so they don't make a mistake.
 
I suppose that may be the case. Perhaps most people want/like it that way? So they keep doing it.

I'm not trying to pick a fight at all, I hope it doesn't seem like it, just trying to understand. I'm new to CRK so all their methods are new to me.

If the knife was repaired as to whatever was broken, cleaned and lubed I would feel they had done all that was needed. A sharpening, bonus! I would never expect them to reblast it! So maybe it's just a case of them going above and beyond even what people would expect them to do as part of their customer service experience. If a person didn't already know they reblast the knife, I doubt anyone sending a knife in for say, a new blade, would expect them to. But maybe it's just the thing that makes people super excited and want to buy more CRKs. In that case it might be great marketing!
 
Peter Hartwig said:
Specific work requires re-blasting the scales, because the work damages the finish. You would not be happy with the result if they did not refinish it. I don't know if they still have to but when they used to do the double lugs they had enlarge the cut out on the lockside. Re-doing the heat treat on the lock face is another example. Otherwise it is optional, but if not wanted you should state so-and I would even note that on both sides so they don't make a mistake.
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Ok that makes great sense. I guess I didn't consider the fact that a repair might end up making the knife look worse than when it was sent in!
 
nbp said:
I suppose that may be the case. Perhaps most people want/like it that way? So they keep doing it.

I'm not trying to pick a fight at all, I hope it doesn't seem like it, just trying to understand. I'm new to CRK so all their methods are new to me.

If the knife was repaired as to whatever was broken, cleaned and lubed I would feel they had done all that was needed. A sharpening, bonus! I would never expect them to reblast it! So maybe it's just a case of them going above and beyond even what people would expect them to do as part of their customer service experience. If a person didn't already know they reblast the knife, I doubt anyone sending a knife in for say, a new blade, would expect them to. But maybe it's just the thing that makes people super excited and want to buy more CRKs. In that case it might be great marketing!
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The thought never really crossed my mind.. We all understand things a little different and may not understand some things at all. Great part about the CRK sub, is that the vast majority are here to help one another :)

If nobody has welcomed you yet, welcome to Bladeforums and the Chris Reeve Knives forum!


Bill
 
Thanks for the welcome and the informative replies as well Bill, it's much appreciated. Indeed, it is all about learning from each other! This is a great forum, so much knowledge and experience. :) I'm glad to be part of the CRK family and I wish it hadn't taken so many years of lurking to get my Sebbies!
 
nbp said:
Thanks for the welcome and the informative replies as well Bill, it's much appreciated. Indeed, it is all about learning from each other! This is a great forum, so much knowledge and experience. :) I'm glad to be part of the CRK family and I wish it hadn't taken so many years of lurking to get my Sebbies!
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It took me years of different knives to get to CRK, but finally made it. Welcome to the family, and to the sickness!. :D
 
The patina on that looks really nice to me. I would be torn about full spa job. But not having the original card would push me over the edge. I would likely enjoy it a few months, then send it in for Full Spa job. That way I could enjoy scratching it up my self. All while I gaze at the Birth Card framed on my wall. Not to mention, how darn good they feel freshly blasted. Either way, enjoy that awesome knife.
Am I the only one who throws a birthday party every year for each CR knife?

BTW: Not to derail the treadz, but how does one remove the thumb stud without damaging it? And install new one?

nbp, send a Gizmo in with it to get blasted to match! I am gonna try. Can't hurt to ax. :victorious:
 
BTW: Not to derail the treadz, but how does one remove the thumb stud without damaging it? And install new one?

They are press fitted and need to be pressed out. CRK has a tool for this. I don't know if there is any at home way.

That actually didn't answer your ?- I don't know that there is a way to remove them without damaging them. I am sure CRK would put in a new one after removing the old.
 
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nbp said:
Well I understand if you ask for the spa treatment that's part of the deal. But I've seen a couple posts where members had specific work done on it and then mentioned that the blasting was somehow required because of the work done. Case in point: JNewell's post just above mine. I don't understand why blasting it should be required as part of a mechanical fix, versus a spa treatment where the point was to make it look new. Maybe my question is better phrased now? Maybe? Haha

Posted at the same time Corskin!
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The reason that it's necessary after double-lugging a Regular is that one of the scales needs to be machined for access to the off-side lug. I don't dispute at all the desirability of re-blasting it, although there's room to debate whether it's absolutely necessary. I respect CRK's desire to return a knife that they feel is refinished to their original standards, as far as possible.
 
I have another question related to not having a birth card at all or a re-issued card. How does that affect the resell value of the knife? Are there folks that just won't even consider a CRK without a birth card? Does not having the card give you pause about authenticity? Just wondering about your opinions out there.
 
kgajewsky said:
I have another question related to not having a birth card at all or a re-issued card. How does that affect the resell value of the knife? Are there folks that just won't even consider a CRK without a birth card? Does not having the card give you pause about authenticity? Just wondering about your opinions out there.
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I don't think it is so much about authenticity (at least amongst us nuts). It's more about having the complete package. Sure there are folks who must have the card and some who don't necessarily require it (especially those who plan on using the knife).

My guesses on how the value is affected on a new or like new knife: not having a card affects the resale value by as much as 20% or so. I'd say a reissued birth card is better than not having one at all as the value would only diminish by 10% - 15% or so. My figures are just guesses as the value of anything depends on the buyer, etc.
 
kgajewsky said:
I have another question related to not having a birth card at all or a re-issued card. How does that affect the resell value of the knife? Are there folks that just won't even consider a CRK without a birth card? Does not having the card give you pause about authenticity? Just wondering about your opinions out there.
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There are certainly those that would not buy without the card. Collectors may not(they want the complete package from box to knife), while users may not care as much. I certainly would not pay the same price for a knife without the Birthcard or missing anything else. As for the re-issued card my personal opinion is that it is of no more value to me than the knife without a card, but this is strictly a person opinion .
 
A re-issued birthcard can be useful for confirming something like the bladesteel, the name of a CGG, or in the case of one of my UG's who did the graphics. In the cast of mine, it definitely adds some interest to the knife.
 
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