Will the REAL Tom Brown Tracker please stand up?

[The Mastiff]

"The guthook behind the sawteeth would cause the saw teeth to rip the intestines/gut out of anything you were skinning, which completely defeats the purpose of a guthook."

This whole thing is an abomination. For whatever reason this guy decided to try to sell a knife here for $300 when it is Bud K and SMKW type junk that should have an asking price of around $39.95 which is still too high IMO. A bad miscalculation.

Joe

 

[Dfunk1210]

"The guthook behind the sawteeth would cause the saw teeth to rip the intestines/gut out of anything you were skinning, which completely defeats the purpose of a guthook."

This whole thing is an abomination. For whatever reason this guy decided to try to sell a knife here for $300 when it is Bud K and SMKW type junk that should have an asking price of around $39.95 which is still too high IMO. A bad miscalculation.

Joe

This. I believe his story and feel for his father in this situation. But unfortunately, he decided to peddle that knife here with obviously very little research on the type of people here on BF and has cost himself his credibility.

 

[Bad Ninja]

This. I believe his story and feel for his father in this situation. But unfortunately, he decided to peddle that knife here with obviously very little research on the type of people here on BF and has cost himself his credibility.

Yup.

Campy knife:
"Skinning" knives "designed" by people who have never actually skinned an animal.
Or
"Survival" and camp knives "designed" by people who couldn't survive or camp in the deep woods for more than a few days.

 

[Makael]

Yup.

Campy knife:
"Skinning" knives "designed" by people who have never actually skinned an animal.
Or
"Survival" and camp knives "designed" by people who couldn't survive or camp in the deep woods for more than a few days.

Probably should prove your merit than to tell it like it is.

About Tom Brown Jr
Tom Brown, Jr is America's most acclaimed outdoorsman, and a renowned tracker, teacher, and author. When Tom was only seven, Stalking Wolf (Grandfather), an Apache elder, shaman and scout, began coyote teaching Tom in the skills of tracking, wilderness survival, and awareness. After Stalking Wolf's final walk, Tom spent the next ten years wandering the wilderness throughout the America's with no manufactured tools-in most cases not even a knife-perfecting these Grandfathers skills and teachings. Tom came back to "civilization" and began looking for people interested in all that he had learned, but found none. He felt lost and confused until a local sheriff who knew Tom called him in to track a lost person. Tom found the missing person and, in the process, found his Vision.

Over the next few years Tom earned his reputation as "The Tracker" by finding lost people, and fugitives from the law. He has since worked with many law enforcement agencies, throughout the United States and internationally, on cases involving abducted children, lost hunters and hikers, and fugitives. He wrote about his experiences in a book titled The Tracker, which was published in 1978. Soon after, Reader's Digest ran a condensed version of Tom's story and included information on the Tracker School. That was almost thirty years ago, and today Tom Brown Jr.'s Tracker School is the largest of its kind, teaching people from all over the world and from all walks of life. Since the success of The Tracker, Tom has authored 16 books on tracking, awareness, nature observation and survival, including, Grandfather, The Vision, The Way of the Scout and a series of field guides, which have sold well over a million copies

 

[Bad Ninja]

Probably should prove your merit than to tell it like it is.

About Tom Brown Jr
Tom Brown, Jr is America's most acclaimed outdoorsman, and a renowned tracker, teacher, and author. When Tom was only seven, Stalking Wolf (Grandfather), an Apache elder, shaman and scout, began coyote teaching Tom in the skills of tracking, wilderness survival, and awareness. After Stalking Wolf's final walk, Tom spent the next ten years wandering the wilderness throughout the America's with no manufactured tools-in most cases not even a knife-perfecting these Grandfathers skills and teachings. Tom came back to "civilization" and began looking for people interested in all that he had learned, but found none. He felt lost and confused until a local sheriff who knew Tom called him in to track a lost person. Tom found the missing person and, in the process, found his Vision.

Over the next few years Tom earned his reputation as "The Tracker" by finding lost people, and fugitives from the law. He has since worked with many law enforcement agencies, throughout the United States and internationally, on cases involving abducted children, lost hunters and hikers, and fugitives. He wrote about his experiences in a book titled The Tracker, which was published in 1978. Soon after, Reader's Digest ran a condensed version of Tom's story and included information on the Tracker School. That was almost thirty years ago, and today Tom Brown Jr.'s Tracker School is the largest of its kind, teaching people from all over the world and from all walks of life. Since the success of The Tracker, Tom has authored 16 books on tracking, awareness, nature observation and survival, including, Grandfather, The Vision, The Way of the Scout and a series of field guides, which have sold well over a million copies

I was referring to the useless guthook and shameless cash grab above, but okay..I'll bite.



Tom Brown Jr. is a con man, with a game plan who has a history of theft and dishonesty.

Yes his basic survival skills are there.
He does have some basic skills, but his school is bogus beyond that, and his character is poor.

Any decent hunter who spends a few weeks deep knows this stuff.

I've read two of his books. They are good reads, but his claims have more holes that a fishnet.

"Grandfather/ Stalking Wolf" ( his teacher) is a fictional invention.
Also, magic doesn't exist.
Neither does his grandson Rick.
He cannot walk through walls or make himself "frostbite proof".
He believes that those who learn tracking well can track an animal without ever leaving their couch. Track an animal with your mind?
Lol.

"Stalking Wolf isn't an Apache name, nor do the Apache have "Vision Quests".
He preaches a cultish "spirit of the woods" mantra that appealed to wannabe new agers who take his classes and buy his wares.
There is so much "woo" in his writings it could pass for an x files episode.

Read "Two little savages" by Ernest Thompson Seton. It's also fiction. This is where he got his imaginary backstory from.

He's a money shark.

 

[Makael]

I was referring to the useless guthook and shameless cash grab above, but okay..I'll bite.



Tom Brown Jr. is a con man, with a game plan who has a history of theft and dishonesty.

Yes his basic survival skills are there.
He does have some basic skills, but his school is bogus beyond that, and his character is poor.

Any decent hunter who spends a few weeks deep knows this stuff.

I've read two of his books. They are good reads, but his claims have more holes that a fishnet.

"Grandfather/ Stalking Wolf" ( his teacher) is a fictional invention.
Also, magic doesn't exist.
Neither does his grandson Rick.
He cannot walk through walls or make himself "frostbite proof".
He believes that those who learn tracking well can track an animal without ever leaving their couch. Track an animal with your mind?
Lol.

"Stalking Wolf isn't an Apache name, nor do the Apache have "Vision Quests".
He preaches a cultish "spirit of the woods" mantra that appealed to wannabe new agers who take his classes and buy his wares.
There is so much "woo" in his writings it could pass for an x files episode.

Read "Two little savages" by Ernest Thompson Seton. It's also fiction. This is where he got his imaginary backstory from.

He's a money shark.

Well done, sounds like your informed for sure. My bad, so many chime in on something they know nothing about.

 

[jdk1]

I’m no expert, but do own and use the Tops TB1. It’s interesting and fun. I would recommend going back to the basics. There are/were some very nice looking Tracker knives made by a few makers. I’ve cleaned a number of animals and never used a gut hook. Maybe a very active hunter of truly big game like elk and moose would use it, but probably wouldn’t carry a Tracker if you paid them as it’s too heavy and bulky. The guy hook on this one, as pointed out, seems useless and doesn’t appear to have been designed by someone who has ever gutted any animal.

The problem with the Tops Tracker is that the chopping belly is in the wrong place. It need to extend back toward the handle and maybe do away with some of that huge caping belly. Again, a serious active hunter will not be using this knife and ANY knife can clean an animal in a “survival” situation. Also, fix Tops angles and grinds. But, this appears to have been done by Red Scorpion Six and Beck already.

Also, the draw of the Tracker IMHO is that it’ll survive the apocalypse and keep going. Plastic handles and cheapish stainless steel don’t jibe with this trait at all. I don’t mean to fart in the punch bowl, but the knife on the website looks like it’s designed for teenagers to play with in the woods, as opposed to us adults playing in the woods but teens don’t have $300 to spend on knives.

I’ll add one more thing. The Tracker is better for many things if held with the hand on the back of the blade. Your design looks like it makes that hold impossible or really uncomfortable. Good luck

 

[21bangbang]

I've processed a decent amount of deer in my brief time on earth. A few ducks, turkeys, and other birds, and a few mule deer when I lived in KS. I just can't see these knives being useful in that process. It's to big, to many funky angles, and those saw tooth thingamabobs would snag everything. I've never once felt the need for a gut hook, but I suppose some people like them. This knife looks bad for processing game, bad for chopping, bad for slicing, and imo, ugly as sin. Honesty it deserves a spot in the tactilol thread. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but this knife is a step up from useless.