Winchester stockman (3040)

Morrow

Morrow

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A fine gentleman recently sent me this knife so here are some pics. 3040 stockman with celluloid Abalone scales. There is a small amount of surface rust around the logo on the main blade but aside from that the knife appears unused.

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marrowJ, It's a nice knife. If it were me I'd get those handles off the knife before they destroy the knife. If you already have rust they are gassing and will get worse.
 
Wow that is a sweet looking stockman. I really like that clip blade. Thanks for posting it.
Jim
 
babakanoosh45 said:
:thumbup:What a Sweetheart!!!! I'd have hard time puttin that one down for while...:D
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I've had a one of those in the past and they are great Knives!


BTW,

babkanoosh45,

HAPPY BIRTHDAY today!

Happy 48th! Many more festive returns to you brother!:D
 
babkanoosh45,

HAPPY BIRTHDAY today!

Happy 48th! Many more festive returns to you brother!
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Thanks my friend!!! I am having not only a great day but a pretty good life, so far...:D
 
Nice knife ya got there. I would store it with the blades open and backspring facing up. Placed on a closet shelf or some place unconfined.
Greg
 
d.parker said:
marrowJ, It's a nice knife. If it were me I'd get those handles off the knife before they destroy the knife. If you already have rust they are gassing and will get worse.
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I'm not sure what you mean. Could you explain a little more...for educational purposes please. :D
 
morrowj_98 said:
I'm not sure what you mean. Could you explain a little more...for educational purposes please. :D
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MorrowJ, I'm certainly not an educator. Just trying to give a little advice, take it for what's it's worth to you... Nitro Celluloid Scales when they deteriorate give off a gas that's very acidic and rust carbon steel very rapidly. Once the scales start gassing they just progress and if not tented after will run your blades. here's a example of one of mine. Celluloid is not a very good Scale Material. Different colors have a different rate of deterioration.

: a tough flammable thermoplastic composed essentially of cellulose nitrate and camphor

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stockman242 said:
like Greg said: allow for the gas to vent.


Peter
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Peter I'm not trying to be argumentative but you can put them in a wide open space in any position and they will still ruin your knife when they start gassing. Hell it's a fact. Not my facts but by history of many many occurances...
 
d.parker said:
Peter I'm not trying to be argumentative but you can put them in a wide open space in any position and they will still ruin your knife when they start gassing. Hell it's a fact. Not my facts but by history of many many occurances...
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I had one, but gave it away so it'll see some pocket time, when I had it, I kept it on a stand on the window sill, but I played with it a lot:p, so that might be the reason why the blades weren't ruined. ?!

Anyway, thanks for correcting me, I dont have much experience with celluloid scales.:thumbup:

Peter
 
Yes, this does happen from time to time on knives with celluloid scales. I have had it happen to only one of mine in the past.. Guess which brand and vintage it was too.. :eek: :(

morrow,

Inspect her real close on every square centimeter of the knife's scales to see if you have any of the beginnings of what appears to be the bleeding of gooey stuff or hazy discoloration?

Anthony
 
A big thanks to everyone in this thread for passing great information along. I think this is my only knife with a celluloid handle. I went over the knife thoroughly and can't find any areas that look to be problematic. I coated the blades and back springs with CLP. I'm assuming a good coating of oil would help prevent corrosion from celluloid gassing?
 
morrowj_98 said:
A big thanks to everyone in this thread for passing great information along. I think this is my only knife with a celluloid handle. I went over the knife thoroughly and can't find any areas that look to be problematic. I coated the blades and back springs with CLP. I'm assuming a good coating of oil would help prevent corrosion from celluloid
gassing?
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morrow,

I don't know what kind of oil CLP is. Two things I know for sure is, (a) once it starts going south, that's it, and your other knives are in jeopardy of exposure, and (b) do not use any kind of mineral oil as a lubricant or a protectant. Mineral oil is fantastic stuff for anything with natural scales/handles as in wood, ivory, bone, stag and the like, but never celluloid. It is supposed to accelerate the process of the chemical breakdown.

A few other things I've been told, and sounds logical to me(but can't confirm) is keep it in a well ventilated area. Keep it out of direct sunlight.



As a suggestion: I polish mine with RENAISSANCE Micro-Crystalline Wax. This stuff is great and is perfect for knives going into storage as well. Its pricey but it is incredible. After the polishing process, I wrap them individually in wax paper in there original boxes or any good stand alone storage box. Then store them in a separate cabinet from all the others. I have done this for 15 years or better and never had any problems whatsoever.

If you would like me to send you a container of RENAISSANCE Wax to try out I would be happy to oblige. Just send me a PM if interested and I will fire it off to you ASAP.

Anthony
 
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