Wine Harvest

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Hello folks of the Porch,
I've noticed that a few of us have vineyards and that some of you use traditional knifes to help you with the work. It's currently the time of wine harvests, so I thought I'd make a thread about it. Please share some of your impressions, how do you do stuff, what sort of wine you make and most importantly, what knives you use in the process. :D

We had the first part of our wine harvest today. I'm from eastern Slovenia, the central area of Lower Styria. Most people around here have a vineyard somewhere, ours is right beneath our house. It's on the smaller side, some 400 vines (it used to be cca 1000 more than 20 years ago). Today we harvested only the white grapes because the red ones aren't ripe enough yet. We make mostly half dry white wine named after our village, it's a blend of different grape sorts like yellow muscat, welschriesling, Portugais rouge etc. It's usually less than 1000 liters (depending on the year). We're no serious wine producers, it's my dad's hobby and you can't do much beside this on our steap hillside anyway ... :oops:

Most of you probably haven't heard of Slovene wine before. It's worth noting that wine making was already practised here in pre-Roman times and before the French (or Gauls rather) knew what grapes were. :p If you ever come across some go ahead and try it. It's because of being virtually unknown to the outside world that you can get good wine for peanuts (the non-knife variety ;) ).

Ok, so now, finally, here's some short impressions from today. I only snached a few bad photos because I'm sort of the young "buck" of the family, so I had the privilege to carry all the grapes uphill to the cellar. In accordance to this I had a Buck 301 in my pocket. You learn to apreciate a tough stainless knife on a hot, sweaty and foremost incredibly sticky day like this. It came handy a couple of times.
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Otherwise we use shears to cut off the grapes from the vines.
w3ekGCm.jpg


Here's a bad view of our small vineyard.
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The grapes are then put in buckets and those are carried to the cellar where we put them through a mill (idk if that's the right word in English) to pop the grapes' skin as you can't press them otherwise. My grandpa made this mill and it's older than me. He helped some today as well, as best as his legs and back allowed. The mill separates the single grapes from the stalks.
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A look inside the tub where the good stuff is ...
RDwTgIt.jpg


From there the ground grapes are put in the press. Ours isn't particularry big, you yank the handle on the right to increase the preassure (goes to 250 bar).
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From the bucket we then pump the pressed juice to stainless cisterns. They're easier to clean and make handling easier in the first days when you have to remove the content to get rid of the nasty stuff. Plus we don't age our wine (most people around here don't), so there's no real need for wooden barrels.
6flPFjP.jpg


All this nasty goo is removed in further processes and by St Martin's Day on November 11th you usually already have cristal clear wine. St Martin makes grape juice into wine (it's a phrase that rhymes in Slovene ...).
2EwVGAJ.jpg


Because we had to harvest some of the yellow muscat grapes earlier already, I can also show you the next step to some degree - fermentation. You put such "things" (dunno what to call this) that are partially filled with water on the lid of the cistern and put a small weight on top of it (in this case a stone). This allows the CO2 from the fermentation to exit the cistern but keeps air from coming in.
zoLeTcU.jpg



This is all I got. Please let's see some pictures of yours too, especially if you have any special knives dedicaded to work in the vineyard - and I know some of you do! :D

Cheers,
Žan
 
Hello folks of the Porch,
I've noticed that a few of us have vineyards and that some of you use traditional knifes to help you with the work. It's currently the time of wine harvests, so I thought I'd make a thread about it. Please share some of your impressions, how do you do stuff, what sort of wine you make and most importantly, what knives you use in the process. :D

We had the first part of our wine harvest today. I'm from eastern Slovenia, the central area of Lower Styria. Most people around here have a vineyard somewhere, ours is right beneath our house. It's on the smaller side, some 400 vines (it used to be cca 1000 more than 20 years ago). Today we harvested only the white grapes because the red ones aren't ripe enough yet. We make mostly half dry white wine named after our village, it's a blend of different grape sorts like yellow muscat, welschriesling, Portugais rouge etc. It's usually less than 1000 liters (depending on the year). We're no serious wine producers, it's my dad's hobby and you can't do much beside this on our steap hillside anyway ... :oops:

Most of you probably haven't heard of Slovene wine before. It's worth noting that wine making was already practised here in pre-Roman times and before the French (or Gauls rather) knew what grapes were. :p If you ever come across some go ahead and try it. It's because of being virtually unknown to the outside world that you can get good wine for peanuts (the non-knife variety ;) ).

Ok, so now, finally, here's some short impressions from today. I only snached a few bad photos because I'm sort of the young "buck" of the family, so I had the privilege to carry all the grapes uphill to the cellar. In accordance to this I had a Buck 301 in my pocket. You learn to apreciate a tough stainless knife on a hot, sweaty and foremost incredibly sticky day like this. It came handy a couple of times.
oGY110I.jpg


Otherwise we use shears to cut off the grapes from the vines.
w3ekGCm.jpg


Here's a bad view of our small vineyard.
ZcdU049.jpg


The grapes are then put in buckets and those are carried to the cellar where we put them through a mill (idk if that's the right word in English) to pop the grapes' skin as you can't press them otherwise. My grandpa made this mill and it's older than me. He helped some today as well, as best as his legs and back allowed. The mill separates the single grapes from the stalks.
77UIAqR.jpg


A look inside the tub where the good stuff is ...
RDwTgIt.jpg


From there the ground grapes are put in the press. Ours isn't particularry big, you yank the handle on the right to increase the preassure (goes to 250 bar).
rqJvZbb.jpg


From the bucket we then pump the pressed juice to stainless cisterns. They're easier to clean and make handling easier in the first days when you have to remove the content to get rid of the nasty stuff. Plus we don't age our wine (most people around here don't), so there's no real need for wooden barrels.
6flPFjP.jpg


All this nasty goo is removed in further processes and by St Martin's Day on November 11th you usually already have cristal clear wine. St Martin makes grape juice into wine (it's a phrase that rhymes in Slovene ...).
2EwVGAJ.jpg


Because we had to harvest some of the yellow muscat grapes earlier already, I can also show you the next step to some degree - fermentation. You put such "things" (dunno what to call this) that are partially filled with water on the lid of the cistern and put a small weight on top of it (in this case a stone). This allows the CO2 from the fermentation to exit the cistern but keeps air from coming in.
zoLeTcU.jpg



This is all I got. Please let's see some pictures of yours too, especially if you have any special knives dedicaded to work in the vineyard - and I know some of you do! :D

Cheers,
Žan
That was fun and interesting. Thanks for sharing it all with us.
 
Wonderful post Žan. I have always considered vineyards to be the quintesential essence of horticulture. What a beautiful place you have to live and work. Very interesting subject. Thank you for sharing your world.
 
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Thank you both for the compliments! It's a lot of work year round but therefor you appreciate it more in the end. :)
 
Thank you, Shurke and Gevonovich!

Great stuff! Tried growing vines under glass here, meant to be varieties able to take -30c but every plant always perishes :mad::thumbsdown:

Can you show us some of the finished product?:cool:

Here's something I like :cool:

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They say dry cold is easier to take, but I kind of doubt it! :eek: Some of the ones we plant don't make it either, if that makes you feel any better. :D You never know with a vine ...

I'm afraid I can't show you any. We had late frost and early hail the previous two years, which resulted in minimal produce. Way too little to last a year, I'm afraid. :(

For some reason I always think of the laguiole as a knife that goes well with wine. :thumbsup: The Sancerre looks good too. I'm actually not a big wine guy and lightyears away from anything like a sommelier. :oops: Personally, I like Rhine riesling and cviček, a sour wine with mixed red and white grapes from Southeastern Slovenia. Like it's habit in the lands of former Austria-Hungary, I mostly drink špricer (spitzer) - wine with some sparkly mineral water.
 
Very interesting. Cool deal.

It was your posts, in which you show the speying of steers and other aspects of ranching, that gave me the idea! So I thought hey, I'm no hunter or farmer, all I can show is this and perhaps some might find it interesting.


Still waiting for @lambertiana to chime in with his grape knives. I found them very interesting and I'm still shocked that noone uses them around here. :eek:
 
Great thread, ISKRA!! You live in a beautiful place!!
I helped with a harvest in Calabria, and we used serrated, plastic handled, kitchen paring knives - cheap but effective, though not the most pleasing.
I gathered up this group of knives when I started making wine, maybe 25 years ago??
Italian, some home-made, some Olive wood, and some Horn. Some nicely finished, and some very crude!
Grapes 1.jpg Grapes 2.jpg

The second picture came out sideways. Some day I will figure out how to fix that!!:rolleyes:
 
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Great thread, ISKRA! You live in beautiful place.

Since several years I have almost stopped drinking other alcohol drinks than wine and whiskey. You know, wine is a new world to discover. I really like wines from old Austria-Hungary. Need to try some Slovenian one.

One day I will make photos of honey gathering. But you know, bees are not very happy, when you take away their food;)
 
Thank you Chief Chief and waynorth waynorth ! Those are some fine old work knives, Charlie! How old do you reckon they are? The sort of hawkbill blade shape is probably the best for such tasks as harvesting, be it grapes or other things.

Vineyards can be very different from place to place. Some people are lucky to have them on flatter ground. Around here we can't, even if we wanted. Our vineyards have to be on the southern slopes of hills as we rely on teperature inversion to keep the frost from harming the vines in the summer. In many cases the vineyards are pretty steap and slippery (don't ask how many times I fell on my bum). :confused: I guess that's the reason people here preffer shears with locks to knives although back in the day I'm sure they'd use something similar to Charlie's examples as peasent knives in Slovenia were similar to those of neighbouring Italy and Hungary.

Z zharik that would be wonderful to see! Do you make mead as well?
I can only encourage you to try some of our wine if you have the chance, there's something for everyone. Aromatic reds like refosco or teran from Kras (goes well with prosciutto and olives), a lighter white from the East, perhaps a sparkling wine. Options are aplenty.
 
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Some of those knives might precede WWI, ISKRA. Most are likely later. Hard to tell. I don't know of a book that would help.
Thanks for the editing, John!
 
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