Winter desert driving trip

I'm certainly no expert, but I have travelled thousands of miles both on and off road exploring the Mojave over the past 40 years. I've been stuck a few times both on the road and off (Even with 4WD). I once had to walk many miles on a cold night to get help. You never know when you might have to take a detour onto an unknown dirt road. Best to be prepared for it even if your trip is planned only for the highway. A few days ago it was 26 degrees with snow flurries near Palmdale, CA.

My essential winter desert stuff (Even for a day trip if going off - highway at all) includes:

1st aid kit.

Phone and charger.

Backpack.

Binocular.

Knives.

Tow strap.

Rope/cord.

Tarp.

Blanket.

Jumper cables.

Road flares.

Duct tape.

Small shovel.

Hachet.

Lighters/matches/triox bars.

Cash (Very helpful if you need help from less-than-charitable help).

AAA card.

Warm waterproof jackets, hats, gloves, extra socks and sturdy shoes (For everyone, ESPECIALLY the kids).

Food and several water bottles (I like to at least carry a few MRE's unless we have other food). Water bottles can be carried with you if you have to walk.

Toilet paper, paper towels, baby (Or similar) wipes.

No less than 1/2 a tank of gas at any given time if possible (I once ran out of gas by blabbing with a buddy about world affairs on the way to Vegas and not paying attention to the gauge. Somehow world affairs didn't seem nearly so important after that).

A tool bag with everything I can think of that could be helpful for auto repair, etc.

Extra fan belt. (Do yourself a favor and carry one. I can't stress this one enough. Cheap insurance against a BIG potential headache).

Fix a Flat x2 and a tire plug kit. The tire plug kit is essential IMO. Not only can it save you from having to change a tire, it will seal a puncture where Fix a Flat alone will not. I HIGHLY recommend carrying one. Make sure it's not too old. They can dry out and not work well. Sometimes I go totally nuts and bring a small compressor too.

Lights - I carry modern ones (LED and incandescent) that run on lithium batts. A small plug-in spotlight is most helpful at times, as is some kind of a headlamp. A low-level LED light that runs for 20+ hours is more important than a flamethrower light. Good lights are a great comfort if nothing else.

Some might think that some of the above are "excessive" in some way. If you ever have to use one or more of them to get you out of a jam like I have, you'll change your mind. Most of the items I mentioned can easily fit into a couple of large duffle bags.

One other other thing that I'm surprised nobody has mentioned here - Believe me, if anything is more comforting than a warm coat on a cold desert road, it's a handgun in the pocket. On the occasions someone has stopped to help me on the highway, I've been very greatful. However, I've never really known right away if those headlights pulling up behind me were actually going to be helpfull or not. Fortunatly for me and my family, they always have been...
 
Compass-one for each adult and child-and know how to use it. Maps. Topo maps. Best of all-GPS gear.:thumbup:
 
bulgron,
I keep a couple of the elcheapo blaze orange hunting vests in my vehicles for nightime repairs/flats- really helps motorists to NOT run over you. They take up very little space but really flare in any kind of light.
Bill
 
One other other thing that I'm surprised nobody has mentioned here - Believe me, if anything is more comforting than a warm coat on a cold desert road, it's a handgun in the pocket. On the occasions someone has stopped to help me on the highway, I've been very greatful. However, I've never really known right away if those headlights pulling up behind me were actually going to be helpfull or not. Fortunatly for me and my family, they always have been...

lol. Believe me, I'm thinking about it.

Problem is, it ain't legal ....
 
bulgron,
I keep a couple of the elcheapo blaze orange hunting vests in my vehicles for nightime repairs/flats- really helps motorists to NOT run over you. They take up very little space but really flare in any kind of light.
Bill

Thanks for this, lmalterna. It's a good idea.
 
You'll be on major highways not out in the middle of the desert.

Don't use highway reststops if you can aviod them. Pull into a town and find a restraunt or something. Predators like reststops since they are usually isolated.

Someone stays with the kids at all times.

get a phone calling card and keep it in the car. It doesn't have to be a billion minute one...just enough to call relatives and let them know where you are and when they can expect to see you or call for help from a payphone if you have no change. Cells don't work everywhere.

limit the sugar intake for the kids so they aren't bouncing off the windows.
 
If you do break down in the middle of the desert, whatever you do, don't hitch a ride with a strange truck driver while leaving your wife to guard the car.

That never ends well.
 
If you do break down in the middle of the desert, whatever you do, don't hitch a ride with a strange truck driver while leaving your wife to guard the car.

That never ends well.

lol. I've seen that movie!

Earlier in this thread, Sasha suggested I take a machete with me since they have good utility in the desert. I was just down at my local surplus store getting some other stuff for the trip and I ended up impulse-purchasing an Ontario 18" machete with a D-guard. $20. The nylon sheath was another $10. Did I get ripped off?

BTW, in terms of things never ending well, I learned through hard experience if you stop in a small town with exactly two resturants, and there's a line out the door for one and absolutely no one at the other, trying to save yourself time at the no-line resturant also never ends well. (This being a survival forum, I think this is a very valid tip.) :)
 
Avoid strangers wearing hockey masks.
The light at the other end of the one-lane tunnel may be a train.
Lefty loosey, righty tighty.
Damm the torpedoes, they don't go that fast in the desert sand.

:D
 
Shappa, good advice. I've slept over once at an interstate stop, but there were lots of truckers around. I mean if you can't trust a trucker, who can you trust? ;) These guys spend their lives living on the road and look to each other for help. Of course there might be a perv or two in the mix. I also would not put a lot of faith in restaurant parking lots. They will close early and leave you stranded in the dark. Maybe an all-night 7-11, but think about it. Get to a motel, early.
 
You are travelling on two of the busiest Interstates that I know of. I doubt you will go more than 3 minutes without seeing another car.

They also have good (in case of emergency, not good for speeding :) ) police presence so I wouldn't worry too much about being stranded.

The whole area is busy so even if you went on side roads you would still be stuck in lots of traffic.

Chad
 
You are travelling on two of the busiest Interstates that I know of. I doubt you will go more than 3 minutes without seeing another car.

They also have good (in case of emergency, not good for speeding :) ) police presence so I wouldn't worry too much about being stranded.

The whole area is busy so even if you went on side roads you would still be stuck in lots of traffic.

Chad

If everything goes according to plan, I don't need anything more than a credit card and a few days worth of street clothes. It's the "when SHTF" thinking that has me asking this question. After all, I'm sure James Kim had no intention of ending up where he did.

What I'm finding is that I've been very sedentary for too many years (demanding job, babies, etc) and so my gear has disappeared or otherwise gone to crap. So it's taking time (and money!) to put it all back together again.

Do I need all the emergency bags I'm putting together for the car just to drive the freeways to Tucson? No. But once I have it, how about that next trip for skiing to Tahoe? Or a trip to visit friends in Oregon? Or taking my kids up some logging road on a summer's vacation? If something unforseen happens, hey, I'll have all this stuff AND I'll be in the habit of taking it with me.

I want to show my kids the world. So I'm making an effort to put my kits together now, before I REALLY need the gear.
 
Bulgron, you're right. I took a credit card, check book, travelers cheques and ready cash with me. Also a tool kit and a long handled shovel, and a knife. Two five gallon buckets. Left the gun at home since I was going interstate. Took along some nice clothes, along with survival clothes. Good shoes, and hiking shoes.
 
it would be good to have sunscreen, a folding shovel and led flashlights (w/xtra batteries)
 
Bulgron dont worry about how much you paid for the machete you got your self a good one. If you stop and think about everything that MIGHT happen you would need your wife to drive the second SUV with all the extra stuff. I Think you got everything you might need already. Do add something for a flat tire. More important stop when you feel very tired. I seen and heard of too many people fall asleep at the wheel. Carry lots of water not antifreeze. I had a customer take coolent but not water to drink. When he had a flat tire he had nothing to drink. He listen to me now lol. I do think you have everything you need. Common sence would take care of anything else. You do have own common sence??? lol.... I say dont worry too much you got everything you would need. Well i got my self a garmin 60cx for geocaching and finding where im going. If you want to spend money this might be the one to get. Would keep you on the road and besides Geocaching is fun. You should try that too.

Sasha
 
Not to put too fine a point on it, but sleep deprivation while driving cross country is a big issue. I had some close calls in my early years.

Driving cross country in 2005, I made a point of getting into a motel by 8 or 9 pm at the latest. Up and at 'em by 6 am. Coffee, breakfast, on the road again.

Not to beat up on truckers, but they tend to push the envelope since they get paid by the mile. One day driving across New Mexico, I saw a huge pile of sheet metal ahead of me. Couldn't figure it out. As I drove by, I finally recognized it as two semis that had side-swiped, but I could hardly recognize them, they were shattered. A guy with a wrecker was standing around looking at the pile, trying to figure out what to do next.

I'm guessing one trucker tried to pass another, fell asleep and they both ended up in a pile of wreckage. Didn't look like much hope that either of those poor guys survived.
 
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