Winter Fire Practice

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We've been getting hit pretty good with snow here in Upstate New York so I decided today I was going to head out and try to practice some fire making. I also wanted to get out and test the new leather sheath I had made by Dwayne Puckett for my Ratmandu. It carries very well and he did an exceptional job at a great price. We've had snow the past 6 days and today it rained/pissed wet snow all day. Temperature was 33 degrees Fahrenheit. Everything was soaking wet and cold. I hiked about 4 miles total.


Instead of doing two write ups on my hike today and what I think of my new sheath, ive decided to combine them. Hope yall dont mind!


Heading in there was fog covering the hills. The camera didnt pick it up too well:
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It was so dang wet there was a stream running through the middle of the trail:
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The further I moved into the woods the less fog there was, can you find the squirrel in this picture?:
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Not far in a found a nice dry dead tree. I chopped a baton off it, im not sure what kind of tree it was but it was pretty hard:
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I then used the Baton to cut the rest of the tree down for fire wood:
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I took the trail leading down to the bay to have a look. Ice is forming early this year. Super heavy fog over the bay:
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From the edge of the bay I hiked about a mile into the hills. The hillsides were super slick. Here's a few more shots of the bay on my way up the trail:
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When I made it to my spot I started to prepare the wood I picked up earlier for my fire:
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The ground was soaking wet so I batoned out some small flat pieces of wood to keep my fire up off the wet ground:
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I then got some fuzz sticks ready, the Ratmandu had no problem doing that:
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I made some very fine shavings, toothpick sizes pieces, and pencil size pieces. Even though the tree was standing when I harvested it, the wood was a little damp on the inside:
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I had no luck getting natural tinder to ignite with my misch metal firesteel. Everything was just way too soaking wet. If my life depended on getting a fire going with natural tinder I would be dead. The plan was to find some fatwood, but that didn't happen. Good thing I had plenty of vaseline soaked cotton balls. Fire with first strike:
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Overall I learned a lot today. I have seen lots of youtube videos of people finding tinder during winter that easily ignites with their firesteels. I figured it would be just as easy for me but I was wrong. I wish I would have thought to take pictures of the things I tried as I dont know the names of them, but none of them worked. I was able to get some to glow orange for a second, but they would quickly go out. Much easier to stick with cotton balls until I can find some fatwood.


Now onto the Ratmandu and sheath:D

Dwayne really impressed me with his work and the lack of money he charged me for it. Here is what I got in the mail minus the firesteel:
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I love the X pattern for the belt loop for its versatility, but when im hiking I like to have my sheath drop down some. I sent him an email last minute asking him if he could make something to allow it to ride low and he delivered:
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It is made of thick 8-9oz leather and is super high quality. The knife fits in nice a snug and doesnt move or rattle at all. The loop for my firesteel is perfect too. There was one small flaw I found, but it doesnt bother me at all.
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If you are looking for a leather sheath I highly recommend you check Dwayne out. I did my research and he beat everyone else's price of what I wanted by 50 dollars. He responds quickly to emails, is very patient with customers, and is very pleasant to deal with. His website is www.armoralleather.com.

Going to end this way too long post with a few pictures of my well loved Ratmandu. Its been put through all kinds of hell the past few months and it keeps asking for more. This blade takes an edge and holds it. I dont think there is a better knife for the money.
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Thanks for reading everyone, Id appreciate any comments or suggestions.
 
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bpiatt, nice woods, nice shots, NICE KNIFE . . . :) That's the way a knife should look, a little "weathered" & looking for more. I was out last week-end & also had a little trouble using natural tinder, not as easy as it sounds. Found a bird's nest & put some dry grass & a few leaves in it, couple of shots off the firesteel, & it was roaring in 4 minutes. Thanks for taking us along, nice country to be out in.
Be safe.
 
That firesteel looks familiar, I can't quite put my finger on it, but...........



Good post, brother, looks like you had a great outting. Thanks.

Moose
 
That firesteel looks familiar, I can't quite put my finger on it, but...........



Good post, brother, looks like you had a great outting. Thanks.

Moose


Haha, thanks man. Yep thats the one you sent me. I think it is much better off with me than it was with you :D
 
The plan was to find some fatwood, but that didn't happen.

I just had an idea. Maybe you could replace the existing wooden handle on the ferro rod with a similarly-sized one carved out of fatwood. It might not be much, but it would probably get one or two fires started in a pinch, and might just be a lifesaver if all you had was that knife and sheath in a real cold-weather survival situation.

Nice work, and good photography. Props for practicing your skills in such dreary (albeit beautiful) conditions!
 
I just had an idea. Maybe you could replace the existing wooden handle on the ferro rod with a similarly-sized one carved out of fatwood. It might not be much, but it would probably get one or two fires started in a pinch, and might just be a lifesaver if all you had was that knife and sheath in a real cold-weather survival situation.

Nice work, and good photography. Props for practicing your skills in such dreary (albeit beautiful) conditions!

Just attach a bit of cheatwood with a ranger band to the sheath then he has two tinders !:thumbup:
 
I love the way your knife looks. It has alot of character. Thats the way a real outdoor knife should look...tried and tested.

Looks like it was a fun outing too!

Making a fire in winter conditions is something im trying to get better at. When using natural tinder failure is the rule, especially if its been raining. Ive found that very fine birch bark shavings usually work good. I recently bought an axe that will accompany me on every winter outing from now on. I havent had a chance to test it yet, but it should help me getting to the dry stuff. Plus sometimes i have to build a small lean-to if its snowing/raining/windy...the axe will make this much faster than a 4 inch knife.
 
I love the way your knife looks. It has alot of character. Thats the way a real outdoor knife should look...tried and tested.

Looks like it was a fun outing too!

Making a fire in winter conditions is something im trying to get better at. When using natural tinder failure is the rule, especially if its been raining. Ive found that very fine birch bark shavings usually work good. I recently bought an axe that will accompany me on every winter outing from now on. I havent had a chance to test it yet, but it should help me getting to the dry stuff. Plus sometimes i have to build a small lean-to if its snowing/raining/windy...the axe will make this much faster than a 4 inch knife.

Axes are great, I just find them a little to heavy to be carrying around. I prefer to carry a nice mid-size knife. It takes a little more work than an axe when splitting wood, but its more comfortable to hike with than an axe in my opinion.

I was keeping my eye out for birch trees but didn't come across any. I love birch bark as much as I love fatwood. What a shame I couldn't find any that day.

What kind of axe did you get?
 
Axes are great, I just find them a little to heavy to be carrying around. I prefer to carry a nice mid-size knife. It takes a little more work than an axe when splitting wood, but its more comfortable to hike with than an axe in my opinion.

I was keeping my eye out for birch trees but didn't come across any. I love birch bark as much as I love fatwood. What a shame I couldn't find any that day.

What kind of axe did you get?

I know you weren't asking me, but I'll chime in anyway :D

I don't carry my big double-bit axe unless I really need it, but I do carry my hatchet if I won't be walking long distances. It's an Estwing E24A Sportsman's Hatchet, which has all-steel construction so the handle should last as long as the blade. It holds an edge like a champ and it isn't really that heavy for what it is, and it's proven fantastic at cutting up chunks of fatwood for my fatwood stash. It's got a great leather sheath too, so I can carry it on my belt. I sometimes forget I even have it on me, at least until I sit down on it! :rolleyes: I really do like having the extra cutting capability available in case I really need to power through some thick limbs and don't want to baton them with my knife. Also, it makes for less wear on my knife edge, which really isn't an issue, but less time spent sharpening means more time having fun. :D

I haven't tried birch bark as a firestarter; if I can find some, I'll have to give it a shot! :thumbup:
 
Axes are great, I just find them a little to heavy to be carrying around. I prefer to carry a nice mid-size knife. It takes a little more work than an axe when splitting wood, but its more comfortable to hike with than an axe in my opinion.

I was keeping my eye out for birch trees but didn't come across any. I love birch bark as much as I love fatwood. What a shame I couldn't find any that day.

What kind of axe did you get?

I got a Gransfors Small Forest Axe. At 50 cm long it fits nicely on to my packs side and at 1 kg i dont think its too heavy to lug around.

I dont think ill bother carrying it around in the summer time, if so itll only be for fun, as a knife can handle all my firestarting business just fine.
 
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