WIP 2,3,4 ideas with 1095

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well got bit by the bug after getting my 1st ready for HT. I figured i need to have a couple more done so i can make it worth my money to get these sent off for HT.

started drawing tonight and am trying my darnedest to keep it simple. now follow me if you can. number 1 is really a redo of my first drawing. the first thing i drew was just crap.

Number 1.
i want to make this for my buddy. i wanted to have a slight loveless influence on this, but will only be doing a single flat grind on the blade. and i also wanted the handle to ambidextrous. the dude collects nice knives already, but i don't think he really has anything that is really made by a craftsman (aspiring included).

Number 2.
then i needed to draw a nice simple hunter. this one will be an EDC for me. I am thinking of making the blade about an inch shorter, and not really happy with the butt/pommel area of this drawing.

Number 3.
this one will be for my brother. he wants a bowie style, but also something he can carry while hunting and gardening, and working around his hobby farm. this is the simplest bowie influenced knife profile i could come up with. but should do the trick.


all knives will be scaled. all will be from .156" 1095. all will be made from hand with a hacksaw and files. once i get these three done i am going to make a cleaver for my brother as well. but i want to get into a hidden tang, and some sort of bolster on that one. so i figured i will keep that till the end. i didnt draw a pic of a cleaver, because its a cleaver. rectangle. with a stick attached to it. :)

 
I actually really like the design of number three. It looks like it would make a very nice camp and utility blade. The second one is good but I agree it would make a better hunter with a bit shorter blade, at least for the way I use a knife to process game.
 
One is too stiff, ditch that design.

Two and three are good. I like three the best.
 
I'm with Stacey here, ditch number one. The handle just doesn't flow well and the blade doesn't have enough belly (for me). Number three's handle has a nice, eye-pleasing aesthetic that will also be user friendly. Number two's blade shape is just different enough that it would look good with three's handle too. Number three still looks the best, though.
 
Number 1,depending on handle material, looks a bit like a psk. Good for cutting through aluminum or whatever a pilot does in an emergency. G10, micarta or horse stall mat and I like it. Looks more Falkiven than Loveless to me.

Two looks like a classic all-rounder. Good handle shape.

Number three I really like. I've been thinking that I need a knife in that pattern. Maybe I'll make one one day.

Overall they look great, like the others my favorite is no 3. Unlike the others I like no 1. ;)
 
Number one seems to want to be a throwing knife, but for the fact that the tip isn't centered.

Is your buddy into throwing knives?
 
I don't see a throwing knife? But I think I'm looking at it differently than you guys.

Looks like Fallkniven and a kraton handled Cold Steel had a baby. I think it depends on how it's made. Wouldn't work for me as a highly polished art knife and/or with burl handles and mosaic pins, but as a hard user that has a low entry price with synthetic handle materials, I think it would work.
 
tryppyr said:
Number one seems to want to be a throwing knife, but for the fact that the tip isn't centered.

Is your buddy into throwing knives?
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no, but i have already redesigned that one a couple times. will get some more pics up soon.

Strigamort said:
Number 1,depending on handle material, looks a bit like a psk. Good for cutting through aluminum or whatever a pilot does in an emergency. G10, micarta or horse stall mat and I like it. Looks more Falkiven than Loveless to me.

Two looks like a classic all-rounder. Good handle shape.

Number three I really like. I've been thinking that I need a knife in that pattern. Maybe I'll make one one day.

Overall they look great, like the others my favorite is no 3. Unlike the others I like no 1. ;)
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thanks man. i have to look up some pics of the knives you referenced. Maybe i can get some inspiration from them.

Broomhead said:
I'm with Stacey here, ditch number one. The handle just doesn't flow well and the blade doesn't have enough belly (for me). Number three's handle has a nice, eye-pleasing aesthetic that will also be user friendly. Number two's blade shape is just different enough that it would look good with three's handle too. Number three still looks the best, though.
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great advice. i think i will use that handle on my knives going forward, unless i really want to go for something weird.

bladsmth said:
One is too stiff, ditch that design.

Two and three are good. I like three the best.
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thanks Stacey.

crank78 said:
I really like #2 and #3
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you and the rest ;)

Grayzer86 said:
I actually really like the design of number three. It looks like it would make a very nice camp and utility blade. The second one is good but I agree it would make a better hunter with a bit shorter blade, at least for the way I use a knife to process game.
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i got yah.


so i think that 3 is a good design too, but i think i might make that blade a tad shorter. 11" overall is a bit long, but not out of the question. anyway. couple more iterations to come.
 
Strigamort said:
I don't see a throwing knife? But I think I'm looking at it differently than you guys.

Looks like Fallkniven and a kraton handled Cold Steel had a baby. I think it depends on how it's made. Wouldn't work for me as a highly polished art knife and/or with burl handles and mosaic pins, but as a hard user that has a low entry price with synthetic handle materials, I think it would work.
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well since i dont have the skill for all that fancy stuff yet it wont be that. but i will try to get another pic of that knife up soon. i changed the handle, a i think it looks a bit better.
 
#1 lose the "bumbs" where the handle meets the blade
#2 looks good, personaly I'd have a slightly shorter blade
#3 I like best, maybe lower the point a bit
 
still trying to figure out #1. i redrew the handle with a loveless style fighter handle which i think looks a lot better. still need to figure out that ricasso area. i think the blade shape is close, but might be too pointy for someone like me with not a lot of experience.

#2 is shorter. but looks much better. this one is what i am going to start with. its simple, clean, and will be really good practice for the other two.

#3 is about 3/8 shorter.

#4 is new. and my brother wants a 9" Bowie influenced hunting knife that he can gut, skin, and butcher with... any ideas guys? i could really use some inspiration here.

 
Liked the old '2' more but the new one looks good too.
Number 2, 3 and 4. Those would be my choice.
 
got three of these profiled and am starting to sand the bevels. I am getting hung up on some of the final details on these though.

I have a swedge, i think its called a swedge, on the middle knife. and wanted to make one the top one too. but i am not sure i can make it work since the clip is so long on it. any ideas here?

i have been having some issues with my plunge lines. kinda bugging me a lot on two of these. i can make them work, as these are still pretty much practice knives for me. being a perfectionist kinda makes it hard for me to move on. so, i will be trying to correct the small mistakes i made with the plunge line from the rat tail file.

critiques are welcome, harsh or not.



 
Thanks eric.

I do t if it's me but these pictures make them look a bit more stout than they really are. They look chubby to me. In person they are much longer looking. Maybe it's the angle I am using in the photos.
 
The knives look good. Are you draw filing these or do you use a jig? If you are draw filing, you are making quick work of those. I might be doing something wrong :rolleyes:
 
Bowman73 said:
The knives look good. Are you draw filing these or do you use a jig? If you are draw filing, you are making quick work of those. I might be doing something wrong :rolleyes:
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hey man, i use a jig to file most of the bevel with a 12" nicholson bastard. i used Gough's file jig idea as a template for my filing jig and it works great. once i get the bevel about finished i use an 8" bastard to draw file and get the nice flat surface. its a pretty mild file but has good teeth. it doesnt remove a lot of material, but make a great flat surface. i want to upgrade to a nice Mill file in the future. the next batch will probably be done with that style draw file for the finishing.

once i get the draw filing done i move to some 120 grit paper, 200,400, 800 all wet sanded. at that point they are ready for heat treat. in the pictures they are only done to the 120 grit stage.

i would say if i worked at a good bench that didnt wobble a lot i think i could get a bevel done on this 5/32" stock in about 1-2 hours for each blade. i look forward to getting some smaller stock in the future...
 
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