With Damaged, Bandaged, Numb Hands Which LOCKING Folder ?

I'm looking forward to reading other responses, because this is a type of folding knife I'm also interested in.
While looking up the Benchmade Adamas I saw the Contego . . . ha, ha, with all the rough jaggedy G10 on the Contego it would hang up in my dry rough skin like velcro and I wouldn't be able to drop it.
 
I would hands down go with a push button auto, not a OTF.

My suggestion also.

I work on a ski hill all Winter at high elevations. Usually cold with low humidities.
My hands take a beating and I suffer the splits and cracks that come with the job. No matter the diet or crèmes/salves I use.
A sharp folder is also something I have to use daily. Plunge/button lock Auto is my go to.
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Push the button, use, and push the button while closing against my leg. Knife of choice is my Microtech Amphibian.
The large button makes gloved use easy.
Of course, YMMV. But it's what works for me over more than a few years...
 
Although I don't have the chronic cracks, the consideration I put into my winter work knife is very similar; sturdy and able to manipulate with numb/painful digits. Yes, I go to a fixed in the 3-4" range, but a waved Spyderco also fits the bill. I tend to stay away from autos due to the small parts and lube gumming up in the winter and all of the .mil issue autos have aluminum scales...no fun in the extreme cold on bare skin.
 
I have a bad shoulder so some of the time I’m, for all intents and purposes, one armed. And it’s not my good arm. The knife I grab when my shoulder is acting up is my Kizer Barbosa. It’s a liner lock but it is easy for my “off hand” to open and close. I don’t know if that’ll help you but it’s something to consider.
 
I hate stiff backlocks when the hands are numb. All of my cold steel knives will probably sit home for winter. The stiffer lock on my native 5 also gets to be a hassle with really thick gloves but not near as back as the triad lock. Love the triad lock but the deep press and stiffness doesn have it's downsides.

Yes I fight that. One solution that works some times is to take this soft jawed inexpensive clamp, put a curved chunk of hard rubber in the grove for the lock release (in this case I used a Schrader valve stem from an old tube) and clamped the crap out of it over night. Took a couple three attempts but made very significant improvement in lessening the force necessary. Some times one has to push the release to the absolute bottom of the grove to move it far enough to release the lock, especially on my Tuff Lite Mini. THE ONLY WAY I CAN GET IT TO RELEASE is to use the boney side of my finger; my thumb pad won't do it.

I don't really buy into the theory that holding a spring compressed makes it weaker. I think taking the spring past the point it just flexes and starts to permanently change shape (plastic state) and keeping the force on the handle "plastic" material for a long period might move it enough to effect a change.

Anyway that's what worked for me on this small Voyager. The large Voyager, as I recall, was great from the factory.IMG_4633.jpg
 
As far as waving the blade and my pants with the hole at the top of the pocket catching thumb studs and waving the knife (scary the first time it happened) I ran across these old photos while looking for the photo of the clamped knife in post #45.

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I think you might like a button lock. Similar to the concept an auto would bring with ease of manipulation, but fully manual. A few that come to mind by order of increasing price are the Real Steel Griffin, Hogue EX01 and the Freeman 451 BLF.

If you've never used a button lock, they typically take less finger action than most other lock types.
This is what I was going to suggest. Also, there are good button locks right up through the knife-price foodchain from productions to midtechs to customs.
 
The Working hands cream is the way to go. My thumbs and forefingers were all split like yours. used the cream for three days now and my hands are almost back to normal. Its burns at first but that means its working.

My AFO II has a button lock so that is pain free as it gets for injured fingers.

I was working on a single post with a bunch of replies so I don't load up this thread with "All About Me" but . . . ha, ha, ha, I finally caved and went to my Amazon to put the Working Hands Cream in there.
Why not right ?
Miracles happen.
Guess what ? The message says "You bought this in 2015". So I went looking for it. Sure as sheet there it was in the bathroom.
I put some on.
Hey ! Goes good as a cookie glaze too !

Seriously though I been doing this so long I can eat something and predict where on my hands they will crack if I only eat one crackOlishous food at a time. Last year I had a thing going where it was along the edge of my palm. That was a new one. Traced it to a certain food.

Again, seriously, if I avoid the two processed, packaged cookies shown (among most others) and make my own cookies with butter then I'm healing up. Have to leave out the brown sugar; you guessed it causes cracking and burning (brown sugar has molasses full of vitamins and goodness right ?) .

Second photo. Just simple date rolls made from extra pie crust and ground dates.
Nope . . . any dried fruit in the winter is TERRIBLE ! ! ! ! Even raisins . . . ESPECIALLY RAISINS. Hands are practically falling off after eating dried fruit. In the summer I can eat the hell out of all of this stuff..

Stupid thing is I work indoors all year round and it is usually too hot and the machines I work on are not cold . Work constantly with my hands though. A little time on the bike to commute but hands are mostly toasty in the best gloves. If I feel the cold at all it is the little fingers. They never crack.


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Oh my gosh . . . so much text !
sorry
was trying to keep it short. FAIL.

Jpm2,
. . . secure one hand closing is very important to me.

. . . if it's the best lock type for minimal to no repositioning of the knife during a one handed close, it's linerlocks and Benchmade axis locks. They are by far the most secure one hand closers, with linerlocks being the best.

Oh so that is part of why people are recommending the Emersons.

Chriss,
think lockback probably is easier, you only press (gross motor), if it’s Spyderco, flick it down, let the kick hits your knuckles, and change grip, further close it. More or less like your last sequence pinching the compression lock with thumb.

On auto & saltwater: Spyderco has one, Autonomy.

Yes I get along with the Spyderco lockbacks ESPECIALLY THE ENDURA.

depends on the lock back though; I have to mod my Cold Steels to release it easily all day with no thumb cracks. Still super secure but infinitely more user friendly.

Lapedog,
There are plenty of four inch Emersons too. That’s for sure.
The waved Endura has a 3.8 inch blade.

Endura one of my all time favorites especially handle shape.
I must say I’m just not needing the wave, personally, opening with one of the larger Spyder holes and so far really nice detent resistance is effortless every time.

Hackenslash,
I think you might like a button lock. Similar to the concept an auto would bring with ease of manipulation, but fully manual. A few that come to mind by order of increasing price are the Real Steel Griffin, Hogue EX01 and the Freeman 451 BLF.
If you've never used a button lock, they typically take less finger action than most other lock types.

For some time now I have pictured modding at least one of my Paras by attaching a hunk of G10 to the release tab thus filling in the divot in the handle for a more symmetrical grip. That would kind of be like a button . . . still not centrally located like the ones you write about.

I was going to say my version probably wouldn’t help my situation now but come to think of it . . . it would add a textured surface to the release tab.
hmmmmmmmm . . . .

Trout Tamer,
I'm working outdoors more and/or involved in outdoor activities. For that reason, a folding knife with a solid lock and good retention is high on my list, too.

There . . . that’s what I was hoping for . . . not so much to fix my “problem” which is minor but to discuss the thing generally.

The knife that comes to mind for me is the Benchmade Adamas. I don't own one but have handled one several times. You mentioned your 940's lock has worked; though the Adamas has a beefier spring, I don't think its resistance will be excessive.

As long as the button has plenty of traction a bit stronger spring may work.

The downsides to these two knife lines are the Voyagers' in-pocket thickness and both lines' relative stiffness when opening. On the plus side, the Voyager larges cost nearly one fourth of an Adamas

I EDCed a large Voayage last year or early this year, I forget and I love the things. I wear loose pants so thicker knife handle is OK with me or it goes in a pouch. I prefer thicker handles. I hadn’t even noticed the stiffness when opening.

I guess you mean doesn’t fly open with little effort. I just tried it and with a little wrist movement it flies open fine for me. Press the back lock and it drops very fast. Love these things.

Dogrunner,
I stay away from any RILs when finger tips are not an option.

sounds like experience talking there.

Jimislash,

Has what looks to be a latch for the lock. Button locks have always seemed too easy to accidentally release, though I have never tried one.
Good stuff thanks.

Cearal Killer,
There's also button actuated compression locks (maybe customs only).

There you GO ! Even better than my wanting to add a chunk of G10 to the compression lock bar for traction.

Stonproject,
I like your avitar, ha, ha, ha, I bet they don’t call him a silly wabbit twice. Rabbits that shoot back.


I always am

anyone interested in a MT knife, they have a terrible warranty department. Very long turn around times, they've lost knives on more than one occasion that were sent in for warranty work, and if you look at the blade wrong it might void your warranty

So Like when I grind the blade thinner and eliminate that ridge down the middle like I have done with more than a few of my other knives.
They frown on that do they ?

ha, ha, ha, ha . . . I take most warranties as no more than a comical PIA and figure I am on my own to make something useful out of what ever I buy. Fortunately I have a highly tuned BS detector and a whole shop full of fun metal working tools. So . . . I might do alright.

Spending more money on knives . . . and here I thought I was all done whit’ that.

TRfromMT,
I like my 810 Contego, using with gloves on to both open and close. I also like the way you pinch and draw the axis bar because it tends to close the cracks in my fingertips. Lockbars tend to do the opposite - pushing the lock pries the cracks open.

I always wanted an excuse to buy the Contego. The one in M390 was my first look at the Contego but I had a narrow escape by buying the 710 in M390; a little more my style handle wise but there is still some looking back over my shoulder at the Contego.
Interesting perspective on the axis lock vs others.

Bikerector,
I often the spine on my leg to close knives as a way to get around either 2-handed close or having to use more fine motor skills. I really like this on slippies.
My standard MO for my Holdout I

I hate stiff backlocks when the hands are numb. All of my cold steel knives will probably sit home for winter. The stiffer lock on my native 5 also gets to be a hassle with really thick gloves but not near as back as the triad lock. Love the triad lock but the deep press and stiffness doesn have it's downsides.
see my separate post about clamping the release.

OK if i don't reply to everyone it isn't because the mind isn't willing but the flesh is weak.
I better sit on the bench a while. THANKS
 
Manix 2 backlock. You don't need fine motor skills to close most backlocks that aren't cold steel. Use the meat of your thumb instead of the tip to push down.
 
Back lock...use the crotch of your thumb's knuckle to depress the lock bar rather than the tip of your thumb.

You don't own too many Cold Steels I would bet.
With this Ti Boker the crotch of thumb works but then so does the thumb tip because it is easy to depress; I depress it and close the knife like this all the time. (old photo).
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These two Cold Steels, often carried together; forget it. Even though the larger one is easy for a Cold Steel I still couldn't depress it with the crotch of my thumb (and I been resting up all day).
The little Cold Steel ? It is difficult enough, even with no splits, I have to carry a trampoline with me just so I can get enough hight so I can jump on the release hard enough.
ha,ha,
Though I know what you mean. On the little one I use the bony side of my thumb bone to depress the lock because even my thumb pad won't do it.

My 110 was possible with the crotch of my thumb.
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lube gumming up in the winter

Part of the reason I just go with plain old oil; Starrett instrument oil to be exact. Very light and impervious to cold temp. Well fifty F. bellow might get its attention but above that all good. So thin it flies into the joints by capillary action so hardly takes but a fraction of a tiny drop.
 
Part of the reason I just go with plain old oil; Starrett instrument oil to be exact. Very light and impervious to cold temp. Well fifty F. bellow might get its attention but above that all good. So thin it flies into the joints by capillary action so hardly takes but a fraction of a tiny drop.

I'll have to order some off of the 'Zon for 3-season use. Negative temps are a concern for me and winter operations. It wreaks havoc on weapons and gear.
 
Oh hey . . . I like the looks of that one.
It’s a nice knife. The flipper is addicting. I haven’t really used mine hard but for little things around the house it”s been wonderful. And the blade is just under 3 inches which makes it legal to carry in most of the US.
 
Has anybody here tried to do with cracking skin in hands/fingers during winter by using those oxidative hand-warmers to improve circulation?
 
Are the Emerson's particularly good closers under adverse conditions ?

No! I have a chronically cracked thumb skin int he winter months from closing Emersons - which I EDC in various iterations.

Emerson's are liner locks so you won't like that.
True that.

I know the short answer is : A FIXED BLADE.

You said it, and I believe it. Bradford Guardian 3 in M390 or 3V, cross-draw leather sheath.
Perfectly concealed; instantly available. Fits my large hand just fine; full four-finger grip.

I still carry my Wilson/CRK large Sebbie clipped in my pocket, but it sees very little use any more.
This fixed carry G3 has been about one year now.
Of course I love folders, but the Guardian 3 is my main knife.

Not particularly advocating any particular small fixed blade but, have to say, that's your answer. Ever check out a Becker BK-11 or BK-14? I love them even when my thumb is fine! For the price, you should try one.

I've often found myself with greasy/sweaty/slimey hands, needing to make a cut, with only one hand available, in places where if I drop my knife, it will never be seen again, so secure one hand closing is very important to me.
Can't help with your cracked digits, but if it's the best lock type for minimal to no repositioning of the knife during a one handed close, it's linerlocks and Benchmade axis locks.

Yup. If you can handle it - er, I mean pocket it, the Adamas rocks!

Be wary anyone interested in a MT knife, they have a terrible warranty department. Very long turn around times, they've lost knives on more than one occasion that were sent in for warranty work, and if you look at the blade wrong it might void your warranty

Yup.
 
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I was thinking about the subject line and my first impression was the Spyderco Military- because the liner lock is fairly large and easy to push on, and doesn't require a lot of force to depress. The only other liner lock that I use very much these days is the Spyderco Tenacious. Thumb studs seem to be hard to get to, the axis lock, BBL and compression lock don't give you much to push on unless you modify the knife which might be an option for you- an axis lock with more button projection might be just the ticket. My last suggestion was a lockback- you can push on the lock with something other than the tip of your finger. Some of them take a lot of force to activate, maybe you could find one that is relatively easy to push.
 
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