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anvilarms

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world trade center knife set world trade center knife set world trade center knife set the world trade center knife set is back on ebay charity page dec. 8 thru 18th. i am the firefighter who started this project. with tons of support from all the makers involved as well as the knife community this project came together. i have been told that this special set of one of a kind pieces should command four times the reserve price. i am very disapointed that so many people were concerned with the resale price of the set and thus were relucant to bid. if you had the seven top painters get together to colaberate on a special theme would the resale value of the set really effect the bidding or would pride of ownership be the determining factor ? this is a once in a life time opportunity to our a piece of american history interpeted by seven of americas finest craftsmen.
 
I couldn't find them on ebay. where are they?
or maybe they won't show until the 8th of Dec.?
 
Anvil, the knives are certainly beautiful, and, I am sure, well worth the price both in terms of real value and historcal significance. I sincerely wish I was in a financial position to place a realistic bid on them, but unfortunately, this is not the case. I suspect many here are in that same boat.

If I may be so bold, perhaps a different strategy may work better for this set. Rather than depending on the few indiviuals who may be able to afford purchasing it outright, and then perhaps having it squirreled away in a safe somewhere, never to be seen again, how about allowing people to "buy a share" in them for say $50.00? Anyone doing so would then receive some sort of framable document, perhaps containing a picture of the knives. I can't say for sure, but I strongly suspect that finding at least a thousand people willing to do this would not be an unrealistic goal. The knives themselves, once fully subscribed, could then be placed on permanent dispaly in a publicly accessible location, perhaps a museum in the city, perhaps in whatever replaces the WTC.
 
I would love to be in on something like that, but it would take a lot to organize something like that.
 
Did these knives receive any press? Something like this shouldn't just be auctioned off without some hype. I'd contact someone like Fox News. They'd probably be interested in running a report on this knife set and then when you put it on eBay I'd bet you'd get some better bids and could see that set selling for more than we could imagine.
 
Although I am sure there worth it, not many folks have that kind of money to spend.

How about you sell 5,000 $10 raffle tickets??

I would be interested in at least 10 of them!!
 
i would like to thank you guys for all the intrest in the wtc knife project. like most of you being a lowly nyc firefighter with a wife and 2 kids 25 k is way way out of my price range. i have had some pretty good media coverage of the auction so that was really not the problem. however hell if i know what the problem was.i knew little about knives prior to starting this project and have learned much along the way. more importantly i have met some of the nicest people in the world. the original opening price was established because i was told that 25k was offered for the set as it got underway. with good media coverage, the set on display at three major knife shows and word of a 25k bid it seemed like a good starting point. a company in wash. state (kompolt and co.)set up and is managing the auction and did all the internet and auction creatives (all as a donation i might add)as well as the majortiy of the makers involved decided to try `once again with this reserve. if it doesnt go this time i will contact those involved and see what ave. to pursue next. perhaps a museum, on display at the new wtc. a lottery who knows. if anyone has an idea i am all ears. well here we go again. i figure the est. on such a set without wtc steel or any historical significance would be about 10k. so any thing above that would be a tax deduction (imo)in case any body is interested. the bidding will start at 5pm pacific time and the url is the same www.ebay.com/wtcknives .remember bid high and bid often.it is for a great cause and a lot of people other than my self have given much for this project. thanks again keith
 
i know but its not my decision there are seven makers tomway made the box and the auction mgt. people.. the majority wins.. even if it were my decision alone i am not sure i would change it. i dont know if you have seen the set personally but i can honestly tell you ,from some one who was caught in the collapse and lost five men he was with, this is a very very moving tribute. it should surely command this price if not it will go on public display where it belongs. at the shows i have shown this set i have had many people come to tears as they looked at the set. it is that powerful..to get seven individual artists come together on a very meaningful theme ; and have each piece compliment each other,without any knowledge of what the other maker was doing, it is amazing .. if you talk to anybody who saw the set i am sure they will tell you thats the truth.
 
It surely should garner this price. Hopefully there are enough people with the available funds that know about this auction. If not for the announcements here on BladeForums, I would never have known myself.
 
As far as I can see, they've re-run the exact same auction.

Albert Einstein once said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result."

Unless they've done something "behind the scenes," I don't know why they expect a different result.
 
As was discussed in another thread about this auction, I think it would have been helpful to the potential bidders of this item to be able to get some sort of tax deduction for the donation part of this purchase.

The items didn't get one bid in the last auction which STARTED at $25,000.

Therefore, now, the charity might be able to place a legitimate market value on the knives which is below the $25,000. Say, $15,000, for example.

If the charity does place a market value on these knives, any amount paid above this $15,000 could be a contribution deduction.

However, because the charity has already argued that these knives are worth A LOT more than the first auction starting bid of $25,000 this may have wrecked any deduction opportunites for the buyer.
 
Originally posted by WadeF
Did these knives receive any press? Something like this shouldn't just be auctioned off without some hype. I'd contact someone like Fox News. They'd probably be interested in running a report on this knife set and then when you put it on eBay I'd bet you'd get some better bids and could see that set selling for more than we could imagine.
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Network media is so anti-knife/gun I wonder if you could get any publicity by them for those TERRIBLE KILLING IMPLEMENTS.
 
Originally posted by RWS
Network media is so anti-knife/gun I wonder if you could get any publicity by them for those TERRIBLE KILLING IMPLEMENTS.
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That's because most of the media is liberal. However, Fox News tends to be more conservative and much more patriotic. I could see them doing a story on this set.

They ran some of our site's content on their cable news channel, such as:

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=33641

After that, showing some beautifully done knives shouldn't be an issue for them. :)
 
I wonder if this organization could get President Bush to give this knife set some sort of special recognition in the form of a signed letter or sort some of dedication in a signed letter.

This would add something very nice to this already nice set as well as give it a lot of publicity and possibly cost nothing more than a little effort on the part of the charity.
 
On another note, who the hell is going to place a $25k bid when the seller has a 0 feedback rating?! They should have found an eBay Power Seller to feature this.
 
suprisingly the media has been pretty helpful with the auction info. i was interviewed a few times after the collapse and some reporters were receptive to giving me a favor in return. (by the way i did a big bit for the n.y. times and when i asked for some press for the set they toldme to eat s--t.. not using those words but thats the liberal media for you). as far as the insanity bit perhaps enstein was correct but most people told me it was a stupid idae to start with and who in their right mind would give a crap about knives made from the steel. and again as i stated before one person did not make the decision it was a majority of the people involved. i for one think the set is worth four times that price and if cannot raise a respectiable bid that it will go in a place of honor where it belongs. i guess some people are not interested because there are no butterflys in the set
 
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