Worth It? SureFire KR-1

i dont think so. but im not a big fan of rechargeables, i prefer to just have extra batteries on hand.

how much, say monthly, do you find you are spending on batteries?

do you currently have the led or incan bulb?
 
MORIMOTOM said:
i dont think so. but im not a big fan of rechargeables, i prefer to just have extra batteries on hand.

I understand, I wasn't either until I was introduced to Streamlights. They do lack something in the runtime, but I always kept a spare cell charging.

how much, say monthly, do you find you are spending on batteries?

Not sure since I just received the light from Whiskey River from the Exchange a few weeks ago. I have burned through a set of batteries in that time. At $10 a pop for a decent pair of CR123's, I think the charger would pay off in a year. (I am hoping someone here has experience with it.)I work on a poorly lit, heavily wooded college campus on the graveyard. It pretty much runs for most of my 8-12 hour shift.I only turn it off to avoid overheating.

do you currently have the led or incan bulb?
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I currently have the incan. I am debating picking up the 6P LED that I found as well. I like to keep one good light on me and one in the truck.
 
the 120 lumen upgrade kills your batteries, i think you can upgrade to the 80 lumen and still have a decent battery life.
 
gundude73 said:
the 120 lumen upgrade kills your batteries, i think you can upgrade to the 80 lumen and still have a decent battery life.
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Do you happen to have a link? I have only seen the stock 65lum and the upgrade 120lum. 80 would probably work. Hell, 65lum works, but I am not opposed to a brighter output. I am going to check into runtimes first, of course.
 
in that case, i would recommend the led upgrade and purchasing batteries direct from surefire. nicad batteries tend to have a memory, and certainly wont last forever. when i was using a streamlight, i replaced the battery twice over 3 years before i finally shelved the light.

the led has far better runtime and wont overheat anywhere near as quick.

i think the surefire 123's are now $25 for a box of 12, so just over $2 per.
 
dougo83 said:
Do you happen to have a link? I have only seen the stock 65lum and the upgrade 120lum. 80 would probably work. Hell, 65lum works, but I am not opposed to a brighter output. I am going to check into runtimes first, of course.
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im not sure of a link, i bought by 80 lumen upgrade at a gunshow, i think that surefire has them on their site, plus that 120 lumen bulb has, i think, a 20 min run time :eek: while the 80 lumen is a few hours or so.
 
dougo83 said:
I am debating getting the rechargeable conversion for my SureFire G2. Like this one: http://www.surefire.com/KR1-BK-Rechargeable-Conversion-Kit.


I use this light almost constantly at work. I am also converting to the 120 lumen bulb.

So...is it worth it?
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Why not go with a lumens factory SR-9(9V 220lumens/bout 120 "surefire lumens" 25minute runtime) incan, and run 2 AW RCR123A batteries off it? a hell lot cheaper than going with the surefire conversion kit, this is the setup I'm going to use once I get paypal clears my money :mad:, I'll be going with the ES-9 though, it's 150lumens/bout 80 "surefire lumens", 40minute runtime.
 
You can get a Cree LED for about 1/3 of what Surefire charges for their LED module. Cree is 2 to 3 times more efficient for the same output.

I don't know if Surefire is still using the Luxeon LED. They don't say anymore what they use.

You don't say what you use you light for. I have a number of G2s with older Cree LEDs that provide useful light out to 25 or 30 yards and they are rated at only 80 lumens.

I usually buy the best that I can afford, but when I find a product that actually works better then the high priced brand for a lot less $, brand loyalty goes out the window.
 
UffDa said:
You can get a Cree LED for about 1/3 of what Surefire charges for their LED module. Cree is 2 to 3 times more efficient for the same output.

I don't know if Surefire is still using the Luxeon LED. They don't say anymore what they use.

You don't say what you use you light for. I have a number of G2s with older Cree LEDs that provide useful light out to 25 or 30 yards and they are rated at only 80 lumens.

I usually buy the best that I can afford, but when I find a product that actually works better then the high priced brand for a lot less $, brand loyalty goes out the window.
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Last I heard, they were using SSC P4s, but I could be mistaken.
 
What is the situation with using an LED drop-in in a plain G2? That is, not the G2L with the metal bezel, but the plain G2 with the Nitrolon bezel. I understand this can be a problem. Anybody that can weigh in?
 
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UffDa said:
You can get a Cree LED for about 1/3 of what Surefire charges for their LED module. Cree is 2 to 3 times more efficient for the same output.

Does Cree make one that would fit my light? I like the light, but I cannot find anything about non-SureFire parts.

You don't say what you use you light for. I have a number of G2s with older Cree LEDs that provide useful light out to 25 or 30 yards and they are rated at only 80 lumens.

I briefly mentioned my usage in my reply to morimotom: "I work on a poorly lit, heavily wooded college campus on the graveyard. It pretty much runs for most of my 8-12 hour shift.I only turn it off to avoid overheating."
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powernoodle said:
For the same money, consider a Quark 2xAA light, some Eneloop rechargeable batteries and a charger.
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Yet another idea. I may just leave this one alone, but I saw the package and wanted to get some feedback first. By the way, thanks for the Hubble picture. :D

dttomcat said:
What is the situation with using an LED drop-in in a plain G2? That is, not the G@L with the metal bezel, but the plain G2 with the Nitrolon bezel. I understand this can be a problem. Anybody that can weigh in?
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According to SureFire, it is just a drop-in, so there shouldn't be a problem. They do, however, make a high-priced full conversion kit.
 
YayILikePie said:
Last I heard, they were using SSC P4s, but I could be mistaken.
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It's hard to tell. I have about 50 of their 2010 catalogs and they do not say what they are using. They only say that it's a LED.

dttomcat said:
What is the situation with using an LED drop-in in a plain G2? That is, not the G@L with the metal bezel, but the plain G2 with the Nitrolon bezel. I understand this can be a problem. Anybody that can weigh in?
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I understand that for the G2, you may have to remove the big spring. The first Cree LED module that I bought would not fit in the G2, but it worked fine in my P6. The Hong Kong dealer told me that there was indeed a problem and he sent me a replacement that works fine in my G2s. (I also got to keep the other one. No charge. :D)
 
dougo83 said:
Yet another idea. I may just leave this one alone, but I saw the package and wanted to get some feedback first. By the way, thanks for the Hubble picture. :D



According to SureFire, it is just a drop-in, so there shouldn't be a problem. They do, however, make a high-priced full conversion kit.
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Here is why I ask. I bought my parents a P6 and a G2 (both incans). They absolutely love the lights but the run times leave much to be desired. I think I should buy the full conversion kit for the G2. I'll get them a box or two of disposables to keep them in business. The r/cs don't seem like the way to go for them. I just want better run times and safety. What is the price of the full conversion kit?
 
dttomcat said:
Here is why I ask. I bought my parents a P6 and a G2 (both incans). They absolutely love the lights but the run times leave much to be desired. I think I should buy the full conversion kit for the G2. I'll get them a box or two of disposables to keep them in business. The r/cs don't seem like the way to go for them. I just want better run times and safety. What is the price of the full conversion kit?
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For the G2: http://www.surefire.com/KL5

For the 6P: http://www.surefire.com/KL5
 
Malkoff M60LL 80lm or M60L 140lm, allbattery.com tenergy brand 123 batterys for about a $1 each.

Malkoff is the only drop-in choice for a surefire IMO.
 
Some thoughts:

--NiCad "Memory" is a myth, and nothing to worry about.

--Using a 700MAH battery (supplied by SF in the kit) powering a P61 bulb will yield about 10 minutes of usable light. The P61 bulb draws a little over 2 amps.

--The P60L is an LED lamp module that uses a Seoul P4 LED. It's a little brighter than the P60, but can't touch a P61. However, it will give you better runtime with the rechargeable battery.

--The Lumensfactory replacements quote huge output numbers, but they're deceptive and not realistic. Stay with SF bulbs.
 
stick with SF stuff. on all these forums im on i hear about a fabulous new flashlight thats half the price of a SF, then i hear about warranty problems or other issues. its like anything else, you get what you pay for so dont be cheap. you might as well start buying cheap guns, ammo, and knives expecting the same performance. the facts are facts, and the majority of LE choose SF because they work. when someone creates a better product, the Secret Service will be using IT. until then they carry the E2D
 
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