worthless gaurd dogs

Our German Short Hair barks a fit at strangers and neighbors, but she seems happy to see them when they get in.

But you can't tell. Our neighbor had a Golden named "Mac," Mac didn't hardly bark and seemed to love the World. He would accompany the meter-readers without comment and only gave visiting strangers a brief sniff before returning to his nap.

We had a chain of daylight breakins -- some with the homes occupied. One day, neighbor lady heard Mac give a growl and then heard a crash. He had gone through the screen of the locked back screen door to chase a teenager (last seem jumping the fence) out of the back yard.

Eventually, they caught one of the gang - all kids from "good families" - and he gave up his buds. One of them recalled the incident with Mac when he was interviewed.

Mac went back to appearing to love the world.
 
i forgot that roscoe escaped this spring-

get home and he isnt to be found out back,start to get worried and pissed-see the phone is blinking with message's-its the local dog catcher-
first call-" i saw your dog out front today and noticed you werent home,i will let him ride around up front with me please call-"

2nd call-"well its about quiting time im taking him home please call "

3rd call-" took one more ride by your house and tried the garage door,it was unlocked so i put him in ,have a good evening"

gave her a call and left a thank you message on her machine-

she remembered him from years ago up to the park when she yelled at me because he wasnt on a leash-i showed her a dog droppings bag and mentioned no one was around,thats why im here,so he can run and exercise-
he licked her a few times played fetch -and made a friend

i dont put the tags on them because they rip collars off and lose them-and they are always around me
 
Talk about a worthless guard dog...

Dog goes berserk, destroys Elvis' teddy bear

Wednesday, August 2, 2006; Posted: 5:58 p.m. EDT (21:58 GMT)

LONDON, England (AP) -- A guard dog has ripped apart a collection of rare teddy bears, including one once owned by Elvis Presley, during a rampage at a children's museum.

"He just went berserk," said Daniel Medley, general manager of the Wookey Hole Caves near Wells, England, where hundreds of bears were chewed up Tuesday night by the 6-year-old Doberman pinscher named Barney.

Barney ripped the head off a brown stuffed bear once owned by the young Presley during the attack, leaving fluffy stuffing and bits of bears' limbs and heads on the museum floor. The bear, named Mabel, was made in 1909 by the German manufacturer Steiff.

The collection, valued at more than $900,000, included a red bear made by Farnell in 1910 and a Bobby Bruin made by Merrythought in 1936.

The bear with Elvis connections was owned by English aristocrat Benjamin Slade, who bought it at an Elvis memorabilia auction in Memphis, Tenn., and had loaned it to the museum.

"I've spoken to the bear's owner and he is not very pleased at all," Medley said.

A security guard at the museum, Greg West, said he spent several minutes chasing Barney before wrestling the dog to the ground.
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..and a priceless quote from the BBC version of the story...

Wookey Hole general manager Daniel Medley told the BBC: "About 100 bears were caught up in this frenzied attack, some were merely little chews, whereas some of them had some quite devastating injuries.

"Heads pulled off, arms, legs here and there, it was a total carnage really. I've never seen such a mess, there was stuffing, fluff and bear bits everywhere."

Barney also caused an estimated £20,000 damage to other bears in the collection.
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...and the picture of the carnage...

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Kismet said:
I luv de dawgs, so...with an admitted bias:

Unless things have changed, most home defense strategists recommend a barking dog over a biting dog. You don't want a dog you own to bite, but rather to warn you. If it does bite, you can have legal issues. Not fair in some cases, but, that's the way it is.

Last time I read of it, most interviews with home intruders said they would give a home a "pass" if there was a barking dog on the premises.

Generally, one doesn't "know" that his dog will rush to his defense if he is attacked by another human, but most often, if it is in the home, it is unlikely. Biped interaction is normal in households.

Bwray posted once that he had had Airdales, and I think Yvsa said he did also when he was a kid. they can speak to their experiences.
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Yup, yup, and yup, and nope, warn't a kid in age but still a kid at heart.;) I had 4 Airedales when I moved into this house in 1980 when I was a young at heart 40 year old.:D Rufus was my old dog and loved everybody until and unless he thought they were hurting me then it was Katy Bar The Door!!!! :eek:
My dear Barbie told me I could get another Airedale if I wanted when I convinced her we really did need a dog in our lives again.
I knew that she would be doing the bathing and such and I know how well she likes to agitate dogs so an Airedale was out.
Not that I was afraid of one hurting her but when they play rough they play *ROUGH!!!!*
Our Rat Terrier, the fat one at 36 pounds now, seems like anything alive in this house is fat, is one helluva watch dog although he can and does get snuck up on now and then.
When he does he goes into overdrive to make up for it. Like everyone is saying he will lick you to death once he knows you are a friend but I don't know what he would do otherwise.
A far cry from when we got him and he was scared of everything and everybody and especially didn't like men in ball caps. Ace was a street dog before we rescued him from the ASPCA up in Bartlesville Oklahoma.
Ace is also the smartest dog I've ever had.:thumbup: When you ask him if we have company he will start wiggling all over and run to the window to see who is here. Our daughter who is his vet said she hasn't seen many dogs with the vocabulary that Ace has.
I swear at times he knows exactly what you are saying!:cool: :D
 
I've got a 115 pound German Shepard\St. Bernard mix who looks like a 100% shepard. I know that some folks have bigger shepards, but this guy is skinny at 115. In his prime he was 125 and not fat at all. Now he's old and can't get around too good. In fact, I'd say he's fragile. But he still can strike fear in strangers with his bark when they first see him. He's not much of a guard dog now. My Rhodesian Ridgeback is a 90 pound princess who can't be bothered to get off the couch for strangers in the house, unless they might have a biscuit for her. I do wish that they'd bark a little more when people come to the house, but I don't want a "protection dog" much; I just like dogs!

Its not the dogs that the burgler has to worry about in our house, anyways. They just provide the early warning system.
 
I like your yard Kron!

The best guard dogs I ever had were 2 border collies.

My new ones will bark sometimes but the older 2 were great.

Also my pyrs were really good too.

I need a new guard dog since they died but I really want to carefully choose.:thumbup:
 
Hi HD,

That's unfortuneatley not my pasture the dogs are running in (the dogs think it's theirs tho), it's across the road from us & the owner lets the villagers walk thru it with their dogs. he keeps horses in there over the winter, grows hay during the spring, cuts it just before the air tattoo at the airbase in july, then rents out the field to campers at £10 (15$) a nite for the week of the tattoo, as it's right at the end of the runway he gets a lot of happy campers. everythings back to normal now tho, dogs get a good run there once or twice a day. the other one or two walks are on another farm just the other side of the woods on the left (where the gate is), but it's not fenced so the dogs have to be on their leashes.

here's a scan of an arial photo of our courtyard taken during the tattoo, you can see me in the front yard with blue & millie with my blue peugeot 106 just below my yard. i have the west part of the triplex that used to be the stables of the main house on the south side of the courtyard. the owner of the east part has the pool & conservatory & lives with 9 afghan hounds at last count, 4 are his girlfriends i think. the center part is owned by two cats that i am cat-sitting for at the moment while their human slaves are on holiday.

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this is a crop of the photo showing just my part. all the ivy on the walls & roof is now gone, was overwhelming the stone & lifting some tiles.... a bit easier to spot me and the pups.

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here's a higher arial with my house at the center (at gl7 4dz) , the field the doggies were in is south , the green one with the big oak in the center & the narrow strip of woods to the east. the brown one with the horse chestnut in the center east of that is the alternate doggie poop area. most of the fields there are accessable for walks and inhabited by fox, badger, muntjack deer and roe deer, not counting a zillion rabbits and the odd hare or two.

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here's from slightly higher showing the air field:

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Shann said:
I've got a 115 pound German Shepard\St. Bernard mix who looks like a 100% shepard. I know that some folks have bigger shepards, but this guy is skinny at 115. In his prime he was 125 and not fat at all. Now he's old and can't get around too good. In fact, I'd say he's fragile. But he still can strike fear in strangers with his bark when they first see him. He's not much of a guard dog now. My Rhodesian Ridgeback is a 90 pound princess who can't be bothered to get off the couch for strangers in the house, unless they might have a biscuit for her. I do wish that they'd bark a little more when people come to the house, but I don't want a "protection dog" much; I just like dogs!

Its not the dogs that the burgler has to worry about in our house, anyways. They just provide the early warning system.
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In my experiance ridgebacks love everyone until about age two. Then they become VERY protective of their territory, yard house etc. They also will protect the family.

When people see the hair rise on a ridgeback they pay attention. And ridgebacks have no body odor and shed less than any other breed I know of.

When my 10 year old daughter was attacked by a very large brangus cow, our 120 lb ridgeback had the cow by the tail in a flash and really took her mind off of the girl.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Guard cows?
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I have one line of goats that descends from Deena, an old purebred Saanen I had that genetically hates dogs and most will charge dogs.

I also have a donkey that hates dogs and will attack.

I also have a friend whose livestock guard dog (A Komondor) was killed by an overprotective cow.
 
I vote Boxer. Theys my favorite breed. Not too big. All muscle. Mostly heart muscle. I miss lady.
 
Several years ago I had a burglary ($10,000) and had my 175# Mastiff at the point of entry doing nothing.
 
I have a few opinions.

- I think dogs are much better at figuring out what are real threats from what aren't. This can be a little hard to discern in real life, bcause we think they should bark at something. But was it really worht barking at?

- That's a good point about training, I'm sure with a resonable application of clicker training and breaking the desired behavior down into learnable steps, most any dog could learn to be a "better" watch dog.

- Unfortunately the vast vast majority buy dogs from puppy mills or backyard breeders and select based on looks only. Resreaching temperment and suitableness for your situation doesn't happen for most people.

- Large dogs are generally predisposed to being a bit more gentle. You want a watch dog get a jack ruseel or some other terrier that's half nuts already and don't socialize it to other dogs or people at all.
 
A. G. Russell said:
In my experiance ridgebacks love everyone until about age two. Then they become VERY protective of their territory, yard house etc. They also will protect the family.

When people see the hair rise on a ridgeback they pay attention. And ridgebacks have no body odor and shed less than any other breed I know of.

When my 10 year old daughter was attacked by a very large brangus cow, our 120 lb ridgeback had the cow by the tail in a flash and really took her mind off of the girl.
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I've heard that about Ridgees. Zoe must be the exception. She is just getting more laid back (she's coming up on 4). She's got most of the other characteristics, counter crawler, etc. I'd never thought about the doggie odor, but she doesn't smell much (unless she's just eaten a poop:barf: ). She doesn't shed as much as my GS, but she does shed. She's easy to groom but those little short hairs stick to upholstery.

I think Zoe is a bit of a chicken, if you want to know the truth, although she claims its just because there aren't any lions to hunt in Vermont. :D
 
Shann said:
I've heard that about Ridgees. Zoe must be the exception. She is just getting more laid back (she's coming up on 4). She's got most of the other characteristics, counter crawler, etc. I'd never thought about the doggie odor, but she doesn't smell much (unless she's just eaten a poop:barf: ). She doesn't shed as much as my GS, but she does shed. She's easy to groom but those little short hairs stick to upholstery.

I think Zoe is a bit of a chicken, if you want to know the truth, although she claims its just because there aren't any lions to hunt in Vermont. :D
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Well, yes if they have been rolling in a dead animal then they do smell. I think it is a case of she has never seen you threatened. If you have someone make a real threat to your wife or you when you can be sure of controling Zoe I think you will be surprized.

I know of a woman in S.F. who had a ridgeback in an apt. A man slipped the lock and she looked up and saw an arm reaching for the light switch. The ridgeback came off the couch and had the pea-jacketed arm in his mouth in a flash. Broke the Arm. Very bad man, long record of rape and robbery. Dog owner hysterical, got rid of dog as dangerous. If I had not had a houseful of dogs at the time I would have wanted that one.

My bitch was terrified of lighting and thunder and could NOT be trained to stand for gunfire, but would kill birddogs and hounds if they came on the place, very protective of the family.
 
Ok. OK. But can you keep a guard cow or a guard donkey in the house? House trained?>>>>>>>>> Thomas Linton


There's a whole bunch of abandoned farm houses or homesteader's shacks out here on the Northern prarrie. The herd rubs against the walls, eventually smashes through the front door and covers every room in the place with cow pie. Cushions of cow pie. Every bit of green is gone about cow high around the place too, all the apple trees and coloration planted by a lady of the house. They eat everything they can reach.



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When I went thru the Sinks of Gandy recently the one entrance had a lot of cow manure because cows get in there cause it's cool.

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hollowdweller said:
When I went thru the Sinks of Gandy recently the one entrance had a lot of cow manure because cows get in there cause it's cool.
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Is that water flowing into the cave or out of it?
 
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