would drop a lot of $ on a junk knife just because it is cool?

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holdanedge

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there is this knife i've been wanting but have not bought yet. it is $130. it is more or less from a no name manufacturer. the overall quality on each piece i handled ranged from so-so to downright bad. the blade is the sandvik 440a type stuff. the thing is this knife looks real cool and is bound to get compliments from the sheeple instead of scare them off.
would you guys drop $130 on something you knew was crummy, just because of the way it looked? yeah, sure there are customs that are bassicly just to look at. this does not apply to this one!


thank you,
holdanedge.
 
Me neither, I usually try to seek out as much quality as I can afford, I'm certainly not rich but if given the choice I buy substance over flash.
 
$130?? No way:p

For something like that, maybe $10-15....but there would HAVE to be a reason to have it. I can spend that $10-15 on something else;)

Warthog
 
the way you are making it sound it sounds more like a $5 knife, what kind of cheapie knife cost 130? is this some kinda sword? any pictures? i have no idea how someone can charge that much for a CHEAP knife.
 
Don't ever judge anything from it's looks!


DON'T BUY OVER PRICED CRAP!

I admit I've bought cheapies ($15 or less), but I bought it just for that reason, it's cheaper quality which will make easier time on my filing job.

That's about the only thing there good for!
 
i dont think i should say the name in respect of the manufacturer.
my sentiments are the same, it looks cool but i have not bought it and probably won't. it is probably worth $30. i have seen $40 knives of this quality, but i wouldn't even buy those. $130 is absurd for this knife. thank you for reinforcing what i already felt.
although, a lot of offerings from bm for over $130 sometimes turn out to be crud. still, the components in a bm are worth what they are, even if the workmanship is not always up to snuff. this knife is sold only in cigar shops. i guess that is why they get off selling it for so much. the average cigar customer must not know too much about knives. since it looks cool they must think to themselves ahh, this is worth $130! not i!


thank you,
holdanedge.
 
I would say that the average cigar customer has more money to spend then the average person, on things of that subject, and would easily be tricked to pay $130 on a cheap knife, just because of the looks.

But don't buy the knife, stay away from it, it wont holdanedge.;)
 
A lot of money? In a word, no. You must be talking about a movie replica or something similar. Cool looking, but not practical or useful.

I will admit that I've purchased a few cheapies because they looked cool (and/or the price was right), but only on a couple of occasions did I score.
 
holdanedge,

I believe you have left many with the impression that the knife is something one would find only at a fly-by-night flea market stand. That is probably not entirely true. When you say, that the fit and finish is poor, can you tell us what you are using as your yard stick? It seems to have had enough in the fit and finish department to attract your interest to begin with.

There are plenty of good production knives made from 420HC, AUS6, 440A and similar grades of steel. Throw something like AUS-8 and 440-C into the equation and you are starting to move up into very good cutlery grade stainless steels.

We tend to focus way too much on the latest overly hyped mythical steel. Steel is one of the few piece of technology available to the cutlery industry which allows the makers to differentiate their lines. Its' importance tends to be overly stated. Names aside we are only talking about iron, carbon, and perhaps a few additives. Some mixes are better at holding and edge; but, also more prone to rusting, more dificult to sharpen, and more brittle. Each knife and each grade of cutlery steel presents us with a compromise. Yes, edge holding can be important. Especially if you work in a slaughter house where stopping to sharpen your knives 10 times a day can cost you real money. But, for a hunter that takes a couple of deer a year during the short hunting season, a simple Buck 110 in 420HC is just about right. The real issue for the later might be that, when he throws the knife in his kit at the end of the season, he doesn't want to come back 11 months later to find a rusty piece of junk.

Only you can say whether the knife is worth $130 to you. Despite what the rest of us might opine here, the market has already priced the knife at $130.

n2s
 
the knife is made from expensive materials, that is why it is expensive. the workmanship which is commisioned by a cigar company from the same italian factory that crkt uses, is in a word, lacking. the blade is sandvik metal. sandvik metal is a slight step above 440 a.
to eleaborate on why it is not worth the money in my opinion: the blade edge on many of them has burs and is machined unevenly. the carbon fiber scales are put on with double sided tape that is losing it's grip. the decorated sebenzas also use double sided tape, but they DO not lose grip of the adhesive! three of the five i tried, the tang made an awfull scraping noise when contacting the liner. i fealt it scraping too. there were even half circle scratches on 2 of the tangs where it was scraping! the blade shape is only for looking cool. it is sort of a modified tanto design. useless as a letter opener. the blade is just beyond 2" long. i could go on for an hour :).

so why then would i even look twice at it? well, the half titanium half carbon fiber frame is cool. it is colored titanium, that is cool. the blade has both a hole and studs, that is cool. the weird tanto design, is ahem, unusual. it is a frame lock, that is cool. even though it wobbles like crazy when locked.

ok, so i will look at it everytime i go to buy a cigar, but i am NOT buying it! my $130 buys half an umfaan that is a better deal!



thank you,
holdanedge.
 
They say ignorance is bliss. If you didn't know any knife folks or knife forums, you might have bought the knife on coolness factor and been happy with it. Think if it were any other product. How many folks buy things on impulse on coolness factor? I think there are many.
 
I wouldn't buy junk unless it was at a junk price. I bought a couple of chinese pos knives to put in a book bag for sharpening pencils and opening packages. Not very good, but good enough for a (really)cheap knife.
 
I wouldn't buy a junk knife at any price. I wouldn't even accept it if they were giving 'em away for free. I already have enough knife - related clutter in my house, why add junk?
 
noooooooooo!!!!! save yourself the money if you know allready it isnt worth it!! give it a few days it will wear off!!
 
I buy what I like! Knife collecting is about obtaining knives that the collector likes. One mans junk is another mans gem. If I saw a Paki POS that I really like and it was $100, I would buy it if I liked it that much(Never seeing this happen). If the knife is $130 and you really like it, don't let anyone talk you out of buying it. Just make sure it's worth the money to you. :)
 
Forgive me if it is wrong to do this, but why would it be disrespectful of the manufacturer to State your opinion of the knife if it is no good?... I mean I openly discuss the fact that some of the knives i've bought suck regardless of manufacturer.
 
Wow. I think I know exactly which knives you're talking about. I've seen several of them lately, and I got the impression of generally good quality from them. Of the sizes they sell, the ones you were looking at are the least smooth, in my experience, but not that gritty. The tip shape was a little trendy for my taste, but overall I've gotten an impression of at least reasonable quality from them. See if you can handle a couple of others of the same model; every company has an off day once in a while. From what I remember, the pivots on those occasionally need some attention (either too tight or too lose NIB), which might be causing the scraping. $130 is a little steep for such a poor showing, though.
 
I believe i know what knives he is talking about as well.. but i am not sure. Its actually rather funny because I was thinking about asking the forum what they thought of these knives as they are relatively new to the market. I dont want to mention their name now because i'm afraid i might be violating some moral code or something or other or the next one after that.

If it is the same line, they make a knife for $70 that is smaller, are these poor quality knives too?
 
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