would it be feasable?

langston302

langston302

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to market a whole fire making and tinder kit?

like say, this

bic lighter mini
10 foot of waxed jute twine
waxed matches and striker
3 pj cotton balls
large piece of fatwood 6"x3/4"


what do you think something like this would do?

do you think it is a valid idea to try?

i am just thinking it can be done...just wonder if it is a good idea.

what you all think, ideas?
 
I don't think it would be a bad idea. To make it more marketable I would package it in a neat little container. I think I would drop the matches and add a ferro rod because they would make the kit seem more authentic.
 
well i am going to the ease of use part for right now...honestly how hard is it to screw up matches and a lighter...

besides..this is all stuff i have in front of me right now...i can build 30-40 kits RIGHT NOW with the current items list. Dont get me wrong i would love to add ferro rods, but cost prohibitive at the moment...as for tins or cases...i dont think i can eat that many more altoids...:rolleyes:
 
Honestly, I don't know how marketable it would be. I'm not saying it wouldn't be. I'm saying that I can't gauge how much. On one hand, all of the fire kit and PSK freaks make their own kits. On the other hand, there would be a portion of people who would rather just buy a kit, if it's inexpensive, than put their own together, but I don't think it would be big. I don't know. Test the market. Make a few kits and see if a local store will put them on the counter to see how they do. A lot of local shops are cool with stuff like that depending on where you live.
 
Nice idea bro! go for it. I think a laminated card with basic fire building tech would be a cool addition too. I think these would be targeted at those who are new, and wanted a kit they didnt have to put much thought in, and instructions on the basic construction of a fire would be of some help to newbies who might not know about tinder, kindling, and how to efficiantly put it all together.
 
Dylside said:
Honestly, I don't know how marketable it would be. I'm not saying it wouldn't be. I'm saying that I can't gauge how much. On one hand, all of the fire kit and PSK freaks make their own kits. On the other hand, there would be a portion of people who would rather just buy a kit, if it's inexpensive, than put their own together, but I don't think it would be big. I don't know. Test the market. Make a few kits and see if a local store will put them on the counter to see how they do. A lot of local shops are cool with stuff like that depending on where you live.
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i am not trying to be the next swedish fire steel here. just like doing making this stuff, not really trying to make huge amounts of cash either. I am one of those firekit freaks too...that how i ended up with so much of this other stuff...
j williams said:
Nice idea bro! go for it. I think a laminated card with basic fire building tech would be a cool addition too. I think these would be targeted at those who are new, and wanted a kit they didnt have to put much thought in, and instructions on the basic construction of a fire would be of some help to newbies who might not know about tinder, kindling, and how to efficiantly put it all together.
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thats the idea behind it...sometimes people just dont know where to start, or what and how to use, and this might be just the ticket
 
dont get me wrong here fellas....i am just gauging interest and getting some feedback.....seeing if this has wings to fly.
 
I dont know, For me, the big experience is going out and making my own, but others are right, some people are just looking for something all ready made. but it would definetly have to be a deal of sometype.

its really hard to say, I mean honestly how many tiems have you one out and bought a few pre made fire kit rite?
but then again, I would pay $20 from a local store if it had a small doan style tool in there aswell. having some birch bark and all the other things would save you some time collecting it your self, so why not.
 
I have recently finished doing something just like this. I used some cheap(inexpensive) firesteels from BF, thanks Kiahs. Mounted them inside/ alongside a fatwood handle for ease of carry. Included was a striker and an extra piece of hand picked fatwood all kept together on some dog tag chain.

Sold them for 15$ each and kept one for my family.

What I learned. Do include some written instruction on firelighting.

What my customers lacked in firemaking skill they made up for in enthusiasm.
One guy started giving me some friendly flak until I walked him through it manually and gave him some PJCBs', comes back the next week and his mom wants 3 for Christmas gifts:)


So I say go for it!!

Whew that was a lot of talking,
J.
 
i think that sounds like a great idea langston...:thumbup: yoiu should go for it... i would be down to hep you out, if you like...
there is a lot of fire making supplies out there, but there isn't any whole kits like that....
 
I hope I am not high jacking your thread here, but I will throw in my opinion.

I think if you are going to do a kit like this, you need to add something different to it.

In all my fire kits I have made a little liquid candle from an MRE TABASCO bottle. The bottle holds 1/8oz. of lamp oil and will burn for 38-40 minutes if you let it burn like a witch in Salem.

I take a small piece of tin foil, about 1.5'' square, and make a small hole in it to bring the flame down to any size I want. I have no idea how long it will burn at a smaller flame, because I never took the time to time it. I did run burn time tests running a flame over two inches tall and like I said, almost 40 minutes was the average of eight different tests.

It also gives you some sort of real fluid to start a fire if needed. If you tip the bottle over, nothing spills out of them. That is one thing I really like about these bottles. When I put them in my Altoids tin, I will dip the cap in hot wax to seal it. I have never had one leak in over 20 years of making and carrying them, but I don't want to take a chance. Even duct tape would be fine to keep the cap from working its way loose in a kit that is being banged around. I have left these bottles upside down with just the caps on them to see if they would leak and after a couple months of NOTHING leaking out, I quit worrying about it so long as I tape or wax it.

These little bottles are great for carrying bug juice in them for an Altoids kit to.







 
1 big bunker,

What a cool little candle. I'm impressed! Nicely done buddy.
 
langston, i think that maybe a small ferro rod blank would be a great addition, but with that set up you are still very well covered.

1 big bunker- great idea!
 
It would be a great idea...provided you could find some way to edge in on the market with SOL and Adventure Medical, etc runnin around...
 
That candle is cool as hell!

Langston: I think it is a neat idea. I like the fire fixins kit, but yours would have more stuff. One thing to think about: How are you going to package the PJCB so they don't mess up other stuff in the kit? I put them in an old 35mm film can, and with time the PJ begins to harden. So, I replace them often. Just curious what you will put them in.

Overall, it would be neat to package your kit in one of mtnfolk mike's pouches. Would that be cool or what?

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It is just 1/8'' cotton wick.

I was going to use fiberglass, but they didn't have any when I went out to buy it. It is $0.50 a foot for the wick and I use about 2.25'' per bottle, so it is less than $0.10 per bottle.

I was going to use smaller wick, 1/16'', but I can regulate the flame down with a piece of tin foil. I poke a hole in the foil about the size of a ball point pen and use the tweezers from my pocket knife to pull a little through it and then squeeze the foil down around the wick a little to hold it in place and that works great.
 
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