Would this be covered under warranty?

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rmc85

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I'm going to get in contact with Spyderco, but I wondered if anyone has had something similar happen.

The clip on my Atlantic Salt got caught on something (not sure what) and the clip rotated which destroyed the FRN. Its pretty much useless now as a right handed carry knife. It sucks because I love this knife and use it in the kitchen a ton and its had many trips in the pool's, hot tub's, river's, lake's, and the Gulf of Mexico a few times.

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Well, since it is not a manufacturing fault that led to this defect, it is not covered by the warranty. But you could always give Spyderco a call and describe the situation, and maybe you and the Spydie crew can work something out. It's worth a shot.

Dennis
 
Na it wouldn't be, Spyderco's warranty doesn't really cover much. Just covers manufacturing faults.
 
rmc85 said:
Its pretty much useless now as a right handed carry knife.
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Why is that (honest question) will the clip rotate so freely that it is unusable?

I have nothing with that style of clip mount, but it would seem that something could be done to repair it to "usable". I am sure that Spyderco will at least have some suggestions if not a repair.
 
I would say that it is a manufacturing defect. That should not have happened. It is quite possible that it may not have been deep enough or too thin in that area. I have that same knife and I have snagged my clip on numerous occasions and that has never happened. It may have moved slightly but not to the point of complete failure to retain the clip.
 
Ken C. said:
I would say that it is a manufacturing defect. That should not have happened. It is quite possible that it may not have been deep enough or too thin in that area. I have that same knife and I have snagged my clip on numerous occasions and that has never happened. It may have moved slightly but not to the point of complete failure to retain the clip.
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Wouldn't it depend on how hard it caught or how much weight was applied in any particular circumstance? If you apply enough weight or force you can break anything on any knife. If you do is it still a "warranty issue"?

If the the damage shown really occured by an action that was so slight that you don't even know what it caught on then perhaps something was awry with the knife itself but we'll never know. If on the other hand someone fell, say off a ladder and the clip caught on the way down and broke, would that be considered "warranty"?

Not saying anyone is wrong in their assumption just that IMHO I see a lot of stuff being suggested as "warranty" that to my mind has nothing to do with defect in either material or workmanship.
 
Badhammer said:
Wouldn't it depend on how hard it caught or how much weight was applied in any particular circumstance? If you apply enough weight or force you can break anything on any knife. If you do is it still a "warranty issue"?

If the the damage shown really occured by an action that was so slight that you don't even know what it caught on then perhaps something was awry with the knife itself but we'll never know. If on the other hand someone fell, say off a ladder and the clip caught on the way down and broke, would that be considered "warranty"?

Not saying anyone is wrong in their assumption just that IMHO I see a lot of stuff being suggested as "warranty" that to my mind has nothing to do with defect in either material or workmanship.
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To further this point, this really is a question that only Spyderco can answer.

I is a fair question to ask on a forum I suppose, but you get a whole lot faster (and more correct) answer if you called Spyderco directly.
 
Ken C. said:
I would say that it is a manufacturing defect. That should not have happened. It is quite possible that it may not have been deep enough or too thin in that area. I have that same knife and I have snagged my clip on numerous occasions and that has never happened. It may have moved slightly but not to the point of complete failure to retain the clip.
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You can say it. Just like I could say today is Friday. Thing is, we'd both be wrong. That same handle has been used for a decade on the C14 Rescue and for several years on the Atlantic Salt, with no history of rampant failures.

The damage was the result of a loose clip combined with an accident, snagging the clip on something. I'd love to know how you think the first could possibly be prevented by Spyderco without permanently mounting the clips. As for the second, if the clip screw had been properly tightened, the clip itself would have bent.

As for the damage, if rmc85 reinstalls the clip, tightens it, then works damaged area of the FRN with a small soldering iron, he should be able to restore the knife to serviceable, if not pristine, condition for right hand carry.

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The Deacon said:
As for the damage, if rmc85 reinstalls the clip, tightens it, then works damaged area of the FRN with a small soldering iron, he should be able to restore the knife to serviceable, if not pristine, condition for right hand carry.
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That would be my recommendation.
 
unit said:
Why is that (honest question) will the clip rotate so freely that it is unusable?

I have nothing with that style of clip mount, but it would seem that something could be done to repair it to "usable". I am sure that Spyderco will at least have some suggestions if not a repair.
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It doesn't rotate freely, but its sure easy to move the clip.
 
As far as the clip catching I cant remember what I did. I took the day off work and I've been doing stuff around the house. I remember that the clip caught something but it wasnt bad enough for me to stop and look what happened. I've caught knife clips on stuff much harder than I did this morning and had no problems.

I'm no expert on FRN and this Atlantic is my first (maybe last) non G10 or CF Spyderco. Just seems to me that the FRN should be hard enough and the cut out deep enough that something like this wouldnt be a problem. I admit to catching the clip so I guess in the end I take the blame.

If Spyderco tells me "tuff luck" thats fine and I will know FRN is not my thing. I'll just have to find another way to carry the Atlantic with me in the water.

My reason for this post is to see if there are other's out there that have had this problem. I could just be "that guy"...
 
If spyderco tells you tough luck I would find a way to make it usable, worst case scenario you could sell it to a lefty.
 
rmc85 said:
I could just be "that guy"...
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BTW, I was "that guy" with my Lum Chinese. The first day I wore it the clip screws stripped out and the clip bent and I have no Idea how, my best guess is my cell phone got between the knife and pocket. I eventually had to pay for a new clip and screws.
 
You are not the only one. I had the same thing happen with a Pacific Salt and FRN Goddard. They are beaters, so I removed the clips and carry them loose in my pocket.

Yours is the first report I've seen of this on the forums. With all the Salts out there, I think it is a fairly rare occurrence. You should contact Spyderco and/or send it in. I'm interested in hearing what their response is.
 
not with a salt but it happened with my matriarch. not as bad as yours, but definitely some side to side. let us know how you fix it so I can give it a go.
 
catamount123 said:
You are not the only one. I had the same thing happen with a Pacific Salt and FRN Goddard. They are beaters, so I removed the clips and carry them loose in my pocket.

Yours is the first report I've seen of this on the forums. With all the Salts out there, I think it is a fairly rare occurrence. You should contact Spyderco and/or send it in. I'm interested in hearing what their response is.
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I have a Pacific Salt that the damage looks quite similar, but my clip was also bent badly. I caught it on a construction fence at work. I "squared" up the hole and used a Native clip on it for awhile. And never had any problems. I check with Spyderco about getting a clip and they said I could buy one for $12+ shipping. That was 2 or 3 years ago. Never bought one and now use the knife without the clip from time to time. I do wish that Spyderco was more like Kershaw in the way they hand out parts for free. But they are a way smaller company so I understand.
 
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If they don't fix it and it were mine, I would heat the clip hot enough to melt the FRN and then sink it deeper into the handle. It should melt its own custom shaped depression that way. Then put the screw back on it and you're good to go.
 
Moving forward maybe Spyderco could add detents on the bottom of the clip that fit into holes or recesses withing the recessed part of the FRN or conversely, mold studs into the FRN that fit into holes they could drill into the clip for added reenforcement. 2 or 4 perhaps.
 
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