Would You Consider This Abuse?

It depends on the age of the kid. If they were 12 or older, no problem but younger than that and it was a bit harsh but like you guys said, they'll remember the lesson!
As far as discipline, I'm all for public caning like they have in China!!
 
5 years old?

14 miles?

Borderline.

Actually, considering the shape most Americans are in it was probably tougher on the parent. :D
 
L6steel said:
As far as discipline, I'm all for public caning like they have in China!!
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We used to have caning here in South Africa.... When I was a boy in the mid 70's my cousin and I thought it would be great fun to shoot out the neighbors windows and lights with his air rifle. The house had been sold and the new owners had not moved in. Needless to say we did about $3k damages!! a hefty sum in those days. My Dad and Uncle decided to teach us both a lesson and as my Uncle was on very friendly terms with the commander of the local police station he had 2 constables come to the house and take us to the station.
I was 12 and I almost crapped in my pants!
When they got us to the station they let us stew for 30 mins in the charge office with all the cops passing comments like....
" Are you for it! your ass is going to ache for a month!"
We knew that the SAP where not known for there tenderness and understanding and caning meant being hit with a long thin whip which actually cut the skin.... by this point we were petrified...
The duty officer then came over and explained to us what would happen if we ever did it again.... he showed us the room and the table where you were strapped to and then told us our fathers were waiting for us outside and he did not want to see us there again..... I ran out of that station never so pleased to see my Dad. I did not return there until I was 18 when I purchased my first firearm and I went to the station to apply for the permit.
Since then I have never been on the wrong side of the law...

Was my father cruel and abusive to put me through that.... I was so afraid of what might happen if I did stupid shit again that it kept me out of trouble until I was mature enough to know better.

I feel that so many problems with young people today are as a result of not addressing minor infractions correctly and as they get away with small stuff they realise there is no consequence to their actions and they start with bigger stuff....

My Dad and Uncle taught me a lesson that now at 43 remains as strong today as it did when it happened and I thank them for it.
 
I think the mother was on the pipe. 14 miles one way with a kid in tow you'd be lucky to average 1 mile in 20 minutes. That's 4.6 hours for 14 miles. I think the mother was lying. Shame on her. SHAME! :mad:
 
I think the mother's estimate of the distance was not very accurate. Many people have a very distorted idea of how long a mile is.
 
Sometimes they must learn the lessons the hard way before it sinks in. Otherwise walking is good excercise, get them active instead of sitting on the bus, only to get home and sit endlessly infont of the TV and computer
 
hah, sticks and twigs and moss and stuff?

what luxury.

In my day we had to cut down trees with hatchets for our firewood. In -30f temperatures. Got so cold the words coming out of your mouth would freeze solid. Had to wait till we got back home and drop em in the frying pan to see what we were talking about. Had to chew bark off the trees to keep our jaws from freezing shut.

But you try telling that to the youth of today...

but seriously 14 miles one way for a 5 year old. Kids probably 3-4 feet tall. Thats like double the distance for him.

Not quite abuse but definitely suspect.
 
zombie killa said:
I think the mother was on the pipe. 14 miles one way with a kid in tow you'd be lucky to average 1 mile in 20 minutes. That's 4.6 hours for 14 miles. I think the mother was lying. Shame on her. SHAME! :mad:
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That's what I was thinking. Lying, exaggerating, or clueless on how far it really is.

I would consider 14 miles (if it is 14) abuse, maybe not in the legal sense, but it's definitely cruel and disproportionate (something that would warrant that much punishment would probably warrant suspension or expulsion). Walking that far each day would take 9-10 hours time round trip. If the kid was forced to do that alone, I'd be worried about the safety of the kid (leave the house before sunup, get home after sundown), if not just his health.

But it ain't no 14 miles. That's horsecrap. Maybe 14 blocks (which'd be about 2 miles, give or take).
 
My brother and I walked to school by choice. Hated the slow, creaky, crowded, noisy, dirty school bus. Walking up the hill, through the woods, and up another short hill felt good. We even did it in winter. It couldn't have been much more than a mile.

A kindergartner walking 14 miles is absurd. The story got the numbers wrong. Maybe 14 minutes. :)
 
14 miles is considered walking distance in places where they don't have cars or public transportation; for a 5 year old kid, that's borderline silly, but kids in other countries have to do it all the time, carrying bananas and stuff on their heads or back, so it's all relative. Also without shoes.

He should definitely have the message firmly implanted in his head now though.

In my day we didn't have hatchets to chop our wood, we had to pull the tree up a hill covered in rusty nails and salt, and then our dad made us knaw the trees into toothpicks to clean his teeth with. Afterwards, he'd beat us about the head with broken bottles!

But seriously, there's a place in Columbia where the kids, no joke, have to go uphill both ways to and from school. Half the town is on one mountain, and the other half is on another, with a river and deep valley in the middle. The town set up a big cable between the two mountains, and the kids have these hooks that they use to slide down the cable to save themselves the trip down the hill, but then they have to climb up the other hill to get to school. Then, there's another cable near the school that they use to get to the other hillbottom, and they have to climb back up to get home.

I couldn't figure out what was funnier when I saw that on tv; that there were 4-5 year old kids careening down this huge cable with coathangers, or that they literally had to go uphill both ways.
 
Some teens in Africa and other old styled countries walk that far with 50 lbs of water and do it twice a day.

I seriously doubt it was 14 miles that round trip is basically a day worth of walking, especially at age 5.
 
It sounds awfully abusive to the mom who remains responsible for both seeing the kid gets to school, and his safety while traveling there. Assuming a 3-4 mile an hour walk rate that is 3 to 4 hours of mom's time each way. Presumably she loiters alone near the school till little Johnny is released at the end of the school day, then 3-4 hours later they are home for a few hours nap before repeating the day. Makes it hard for Mom to hold a 9-5 job too. Does little Johnny get any homework? When is that to be done? Add to this that in this day and age Mom is taking her life in her hands by trying to do the right thing as there are many places where people who target female pedestrians can be found and a 14 year old companion isn't much deterrent. What kind of neighborhoods are we talking about them walking through?
 
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