Would you sell a Busse to Fund an M&P15-22?

adrock, i would definitely go for it, that is an awesome weapon, i got the .223 version of the m&p 15, you are correct they are getting excellent reviews. the colt version does have some problems.
the m&p .40 is our duty weapon and has gotten great reviews as well, hard to beat the lifetime warranty.
i looked at one the other day at gander mountain and found it hard not to get it.
i looked at the action on the m&p 15 and it looks much better made than the colt.

i love my busse knives, but the m&p will increase in price and that will be sooner than later.
 
If you plan on pushing well north of 1,500 bullets down that pipe in teh next 12-18 months, then maybe it's a good deal. Esp. if that plan continues. If not, bad idea. When current ammo prices drop (and they will - mark my words), feeding your regular AR will be cheaper than carrying this specialty piece. It's just not worth it at $500. At $300 I could almost justify it.
 
I wouldn't buy one if I didn't have to sell a Busse.

I just bought an Ar-7 for $150, for the purposes of a .22 that's all I need. If I need to train for a battle rifle I'm going to train with that battle rifle.

I consider .22's based on combat weapons to be just barely above airsoft. Why not a 10/22?
 
To buy a gun? Probably not. To pay for home repairs due to stupid Georgia storms?


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Yes, I'd do it. But then I only keep user Busse's now.

500 rnds of .22 LR, approx $20. 500 rnds of .223/556, approx $200.

I went a little different route, put together a dedicated .22 LR AR. It's easy and fun to go thru a bulk pack in one setting. Good practice also. Cheap enough to do every weekend.

I don't shoot much .223/556 at this point, still pretty spendy. A little bit every now and then.
 
I've sold a firearm to buy a Busse I NEEDED (;)). I would absolutely go the other direction and sell a Busse to buy a firearm.
I might be doing it soon since I've recently handled a S&W 340PD!
 
Personally, I would do it. For me it's a decision of the amount of use I get out of something, and I know for a fact I would get a lot more use out of the .22 than the knife.... but that's also because I have lots of other knives, but not lots of other guns.
 
Dennis in MA said:
If you plan on pushing well north of 1,500 bullets down that pipe in teh next 12-18 months, then maybe it's a good deal. Esp. if that plan continues. If not, bad idea. When current ammo prices drop (and they will - mark my words), feeding your regular AR will be cheaper than carrying this specialty piece. It's just not worth it at $500. At $300 I could almost justify it.
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Well its not ONLY an economical issue. I do own a 5.56, and it is expensive, but I bought a cheap case thats kept me going for a while. Its also a fun round to shoot, and both my wife and kid (and myself) can have a blast shooting it. Do you really think ammo will go down again? I think it will be more like gas. It may level off at a lower price, but I think its just going to keep going up. Black guns aren't getting any more popular.

rover said:
I wouldn't buy one if I didn't have to sell a Busse.

I just bought an Ar-7 for $150, for the purposes of a .22 that's all I need. If I need to train for a battle rifle I'm going to train with that battle rifle.

I consider .22's based on combat weapons to be just barely above airsoft. Why not a 10/22?
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I'm not training. I already own a Stag 2T. I just shoot it for fun. I dont own a .22 though. I tried the 10/22 route but I just wasnt happy with the stock Ruger. I ended up buying a new stock, and better receiver and aftermarket parts and barrels. In the end I had a custom $500 10/22. I already know I like ARs and the S&W will be perfect out of the box.

swimmerdude1127 said:
Personally, I would do it. For me it's a decision of the amount of use I get out of something, and I know for a fact I would get a lot more use out of the .22 than the knife.... but that's also because I have lots of other knives, but not lots of other guns.
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Exactly. I go to the range often with the sole purpose of shooting guns. Theres only so many times I can go in my yard and hack up sticks to post on the internet, and only so many camping trips I go on in a year. I'm not saying I dont use my knoives, I'm just saying I cant possibly use all 12 of them that much.

Well thanks guys.
 
Nope. They will always make rifles, always. One day (as sad as it is) Busse's will no longer be produced. Hopefully not in any of our times, but in our Grandchildren's. You can count on there being a whole lot more M&P 22's made than any one model of Busse you may own. I've sold Busse's for various reasons before and ALWAYS ended up regretting it. Never again, unless it's a real emergency!

The M&P 22 does look like a great plinker though! I'll probably end up getting one too.
 
I traded an AR pistol for my first infi, so what ever works.

I would like a dedicated .22 AR platform.

I would also like a conversion kit for my glock .40
 
Honestly? Yes. I was about to pull the trigger on a FFBM but decided i'd pick up the 15-22 first. I've got a conversion kit, but honestly, it sucks. I'll just buy the FFBM next month.
 
adrock1978 said:
I already own a Stag 2T.
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Fun gun isn't it? I've got two. One I use as a truck gun, the other I use as a training/beater gun.

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Both on spikes lowers.
 
I wouldn't.....but then again, I sold a couple knives to fund a watch while many here are more than happy with a $20 casio that they'll probably get 15 years of accurate time keeping with :p while for the same quality service I paid roughly 230 times that...

I wouldn't substitute anyones judgement for my own. If you want it, DO IT! I'm happy with what I did, would you feel the same way about your gun?

When you think about it, how many trees do you really need to cut, how many zombies do you really need to kill.....how many imaginary terrorists do you need to mow down or how many big rocks do you need to turn into little ones. Both items are relatively useless for any REAL world practicality, especially since I take it you have other Busse's or other guns.....so which one floats your boat the highest? :D
 
winmagfrog said:
Nope. They will always make rifles, always. One day (as sad as it is) Busse's will no longer be produced. Hopefully not in any of our times, but in our Grandchildren's. You can count on there being a whole lot more M&P 22's made than any one model of Busse you may own. I've sold Busse's for various reasons before and ALWAYS ended up regretting it. Never again, unless it's a real emergency!

The M&P 22 does look like a great plinker though! I'll probably end up getting one too.
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I'm not thinking about down the road though. I'm not looking at my Busse's as an investment (I acknowledge they are though) I place value on them based on use. If I dont use it, it has no value to me. If they'll be more rare and worth more in ten years its only worth, or value based on what I can trade them or sell them for... much like I'm doing right now. I dont disagree... If I see some knife I let go of 5 years from now tripple in price sure I'll kick myself. But what can I do? Hang onto something hoping it might appreciate.... so I can sell it? :D

230grains said:
Fun gun isn't it? I've got two. One I use as a truck gun, the other I use as a training/beater gun.

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Both on spikes lowers.
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Wow, nice dude. Yeah I'm a fan of your simpler set up. I'd pick and choose some of the extra gear you have on the other one, but a clean no BS AR is hot.

pbubsy said:
I wouldn't.....but then again, I sold a couple knives to fund a watch while many here are more than happy with a $20 casio that they'll probably get 15 years of accurate time keeping with :p while for the same quality service I paid roughly 230 times that...

I wouldn't substitute anyones judgement for my own. If you want it, DO IT! I'm happy with what I did, would you feel the same way about your gun?

When you think about it, how many trees do you really need to cut, how many zombies do you really need to kill.....how many imaginary terrorists do you need to mow down or how many big rocks do you need to turn into little ones. Both items are relatively useless for any REAL world practicality, especially since I take it you have other Busse's or other guns.....so which one floats your boat the highest? :D
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Well I'm not looking for anyone to make decisions for me. Just shooting the S%#@ really, but the opinions help. You hit it on the head though. Which one will make me happy this week?
 
I wouldn't sell a Busse to buy an S&W arfgun. I would probably save pennies and build one from the Spike's .22 conversion.
 
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stricknine said:
the colt version does have some problems.
i looked at the action on the m&p 15 and it looks much better made than the colt.
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What Colts were you looking at? What problems do you mean? How does the action on the M&P15 look much better made? Don't the M&P's come with a standard buffer and not an "H" buffer?

I am not a prancing pony fanboy--don't even own one--but I find it hard to compare the S&W AR's to the Colt 6920. (The gun they were designed to mimic).
 
I'mGatMan! said:
I wouldn't sell a Busse to buy an S&W arfgun. I would probably save pennies and build one from the Spike's .22 conversion.
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If money was no object, I'd agree. But I need to keep this from growing out of control, or no new gun will be had. At $500, its enough good gun to rationalize the purchase. A spikes + lower + parts could run me close to $1K

I'mGatMan! said:
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What Colts were you looking at? What problems do you mean? How does the action on the M&P15 look much better made? Don't the M&P's come with a standard buffer and not an "H" buffer?

I am not a prancing pony fanboy--don't even own one--but I find it hard to compare the S&W AR's to the Colt 6920. (The gun they were designed to mimic).
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I cant account for any specific problems with the colt .22 but I have read bad reviews and dissatisfied customers. Also, the colt does not have typical AR controls as I mentioned. No bolt hold open, and no traditional mag release.
I wouldn't dispute colt compared to S&W, but we're not talking about traditional ARs. We're talking .22s made to look and function like an AR. In that respect, I've heard Colt fell short. A standard buffer is 2.9oz compared to 3.8 oz H buffer. If I remember correctly, a heavier buffer slows down the bolt cycle rate, improving shell ejection and feed. I think it would work negatively against a less powerful shell like a .22. I think a standard buffer would be just fine... actually.... other than dampening felt recoil, I dont think the retro-fit .22 bolt in any set up (spikes included) even interacts with the buffer. Its a non-issue. You're not feeling the difference of an ounce in the kick from a .22
 
adrock1978 said:
Well I'm not looking for anyone to make decisions for me. Just shooting the S%#@ really, but the opinions help. You hit it on the head though. Which one will make me happy this week?
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Yeah, I feel ya :D I made my perfect plinker a couple months ago by getting a 10-22 on sale at Big-5 and making it into an AR with a scope. It's super light and I dialed it in to be pretty accurate. Cost me like $450 all said and done :p gotta love the Rugers :thumbup:
 
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