wow....my military tip broke off...

I was shocked when I saw the picture, I would not be surprised. or even that upset if the tipy tip of a thin bladed knife with a pointy tip to begin with. broke off going minor misuse.

I personally have never broken the tip off a knife. and I sometimes use them for minor non-knife things like adjusting me flame on a lighter. screws possibly. but I would try to use the back of the blade. lying alongside the surface so that I'm not essentially prying with the edge. And if I make the edge. or something I just chalked it up to where.

mean really the point you broke off was the thin down the sharpened edge that extends to the tip, an extremely small piece of steel. Also if this is not unusual behavior the tip could have been previously damaged fatigue my previous action.
 
What the last two guys said.......... :)

After seeing the picture of what you were actually talking about..... you have nothing to complain about. :)
 
LOL that was one hell of a funny pic. I thought you broke of 1/2 inch from your knifetip!

I had one tip that broke of a knife, a Mora in carbon steel. I dropped it and it landed tip first on a wooden cutting board. I seem to have twisted the tip while withdrawing the knife out of the board, damage was minimal, but noticable.

My first thought that raced thru my head was "you Dumb*ss".

I never came to the conclusion of writing Mora and asking them for a replacement or W&R.
 
If, like me, you aren't terribly familiar with all the knives on the market it's hard to judge what some of these knives are like from just pictures on the net, and I doubt anyone in my county stocks any Spydercos at all. I had to drive to the next county just to get my mitts on a Delica.

With a name like "military" or "para-military" I would expect a knife that could stand up to some mild misuse. I wouldn't expect to punch open cans of ammo with it, but I would expect that if I had to use the dull side of the blade to adjust the windage screw on an aimpoint if I was in a hurry that the blade would not break. I suppose maybe it's obvious when you see in person the fine blade that these knives will not stand up to that kind of abuse, but these knives are described as being for "hard use" by people in the military. I would expect a $ 100 knife called "the military" to stand up to at least as much abuse as my $ 40 K-bar Mule.

I've been very impressed with the cutting ability of the Delica for such a small and handy knife and would like to find a larger Spyderco that would be up to tougher use, but I would have been surprised to find a fine Delica like point on the "para military," which is what I was considering.
 
Aimless said:
, but I would have been surprised to find a fine Delica like point on the "para military," which is what I was considering.
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Then you're probably considering the wrong knife. Check out the Captain if tip strength is an issue to you.
 
I don't know, if you looked at the website and saw the picture and description, you probably wouldn't think that the Military is designed for prying open doors or tin cans or anything. The description says "high performance, light weight folder" which says nothing about having a bomb-proof, screwdriver tip. In any case, Spyderco is known for their splinter-picker tips...
 
I tried to slice bread with a screwdriver and I mashed up the bread. What am I doing wrong? :confused:
 
I have two military blades by Spyderco. It does not take an advanced degree to figure out that the edges on these knives won't stand up to prying. The point is very fine and has been known to be a weak spot, but of course many people try to use the point of a blade in a pinch due to the lack of a screwdriver. S30V is plenty strong, holds a great edge but despite all the accolades, it isn't anything close to a screwdriver.

This action is an expensive lesson. The biggest fool of all is the person who patently refuses to profit by his mistakes.
 
Any expensive one bladed folder should always been accompanied by at least a SAK or multi tool.
A 10-20$ SAK is a much better screwdriver than any one bladed knife.
A one or two layer Vic (84mm or 91mm) will disappear in your pocket until you need it.

However even with a SAK some people still don't learn!
I bought a used Vic Champ (Swisschamp without pliers) for cheap on ebay.
It has 3 straight screwdrivers and a philips plus a plethora of other tools that can be used for screwing/prying.
And guess what?
Despite all the options the previous owner had used the tip of the big blade as a screwdriver/prybar and BENT the tip!!!!
:eek:
 
I love this thread. This is the next "spine whack test" topic. I had to get on this one before it is locked up forever. Sorry about your knife bro, I would be pissed too but mainly at myself and my misfortune. Sal will make it up to you by making a better version that you where going to 'have' to buy anyways.
-Mat
 
I had the same thing happen to a Microtech which was s30v. I was trying to slide it between a window glass and a rubber window seal. You would have thought the rubber seal would give but it broke about 1/16 " off the tip.
 
I had 1,5-2 mm tip broke on my s30v military. It happened when I was cutting old leather boot (I needed leather for utility purposes) and suddenly the knife met little nail inside the boot, so it broke.
I think it was not because of thin tip, but because of s30v ... and its' heat treatment also...
I'm thinking about bying cpmD2, but haven't decided yet.
Thanks.
 
oneformula said:
i don't want anything from spyderco... i just tried the same thing with my endura, a couple of swiss army victorinox, and my 2 benchmades... no tip breakage.

i'm fairly certain that the military either has a very frail tip from the shape, or cpm s30v brittle, or the heat treat had a problem. i'm thinking it is the blade tip shape.


i've cranked FAR harder on the others as a test after this on the same plastic screw
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don't mean to diss spydercos (i'm a fan of them) but tip-breakage is rather common actually on spyderco's, since most of them have this alternative triangluar-like pointy blade and have fairly long trailing thin points.

of course knives aren't screwdrivers nor prybars and as such you shouldn't use it like that, but it's true, spyderco's really don't like that kind of use

i broke about 5 tips over the last 10 years, and 4 of them were spyderco's (2 military's, 1 police, 1 delica). i just never learn i guess :)
 
In defense of the Police model, i've got one that is G2 steel and have opened about 20 or so oysters with it... and we are not talking little oysters, either... some of those babies are in the 7-8 inch range. It did crunch up the edge a little, as could be expected, but it was nothing a little sharpening stone couldn't fix... and now... the tip is stronger! hahaha...

Hey, i got a good one for y'all; What kinda tool opens oysters better than an oyster knife?






A screw driver!
 
If you must pry with a knife, the new Swiss Army Rescue Knife has a tool called the "crate opener". It can be used to pry out a car windshield after the weatherstrip is removed.
 
tholiver said:
Any expensive one bladed folder should always been accompanied by at least a SAK or multi tool.
A 10-20$ SAK is a much better screwdriver than any one bladed knife.
A one or two layer Vic (84mm or 91mm) will disappear in your pocket until you need it.
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:thumbup: In addition to a locking folder, I always carry a SAK.
The Bantam is great, with just blade and the excellent Victorinox combi tool.
 
Steven Andrews said:
:thumbup: In addition to a locking folder, I always carry a SAK.
The Bantam is great, with just blade and the excellent Victorinox combi tool.
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What makes them a great combination is that they are so different. I don't think I'd want a Chimera with the head of a Spyderco and the body of a Swiss Army Knife.
 
I love the pointy tip on my Military because it is so useful for me as an EDC. But I realize that it is a compromise with strength. I've never broken a tip, but sometimes just the right combination of torque and leverage can break off a tip, even when little pressure is applied. Not only does the Military lack a robust tip, it is also a long knife, which can generate a lot of leverage.

Nonetheless, I rejoice in the pointy, functional tip of the Military and hope Spyderco does not change it. Not many big folders cut as well as the Military. It's weakness is its strength.
 
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