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WOW WOW OMG SUPER WOW(its about pivot lubricant)

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i just put silicone spray lubricant on the pivot and washers of my M16-12 because it was grinding because i dont have the oil or grease or whatever. and it is SO FAST you cant even see it open anymore and its effortless.. you should try this guys..
 
What really happened was the oil in your pivot attracted dirt and that was what made the grinding noise and kept it from working smoothly. When you sprayed it you cleaned it out, but it's still full of oil which will soon attract more dirt. Wipe off as much oil as you can. All you want is a layer of oil one molecule thick. You can't possibly wipe off that last molecule, and that's enough to lubricate and not so much that dirt will stick to it.
 
Cougar Allen said:
What really happened was the oil in your pivot attracted dirt and that was what made the grinding noise and kept it from working smoothly. When you sprayed it you cleaned it out, but it's still full of oil which will soon attract more dirt. Wipe off as much oil as you can. All you want is a layer of oil one molecule thick. You can't possibly wipe off that last molecule, and that's enough to lubricate and not so much that dirt will stick to it.
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I understand what you told Surok, Cougar Allen, but I gotta ask, how do you measure one molecule? My ruler doesn't go that small :D. Just asking for the people whose primary language might not be English but read these forums.
 
I just use a metric tape measure. I use the side that says "mm" which stands for molecule measure. But I normally don;t get quite that technical when lubricating something. I'll wipe it down to where there's only 1 or 2 thousandths remaining, but I won;t wipe it down to molecules.
 
You don't have to measure it. When you've wiped off as much oil as you can wipe off, that last molecule still adheres to the steel.
 
Yes, you can omit wiping off the excess if you can respray as often as necessary. In windblown dust or sand that could be every few seconds, but in most conditions it'll go longer than that.
 
i am going to the store today , and want to know what is the best pivot lube for my M16. before i go. what to they use at the crkt factory?
 
StretchNM said:
I just use a metric tape measure. I use the side that says "mm" which stands for molecule measure. But I normally don;t get quite that technical when lubricating something. I'll wipe it down to where there's only 1 or 2 thousandths remaining, but I won;t wipe it down to molecules.
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Well, I'm one of those guys that can speak english, but use the SI metric system. I'm getting quite confused, since I don't know if it is a name of mesureament you guys use, or if it is a mistake.

In the SI system, "mm" stands for millimeters, that is 1⁄1000 of a metre. And that should be 1 millimeter = 0.0393700787 inch. Also note that they are not capital letter. (Beeing the liter the only one that can be represented by l or L in the SI system - wich is the scientifically accepted anyway)
Also molecules (the smallest particule of a coumpound with at least 2 atoms) are not easilly measured, and the only route to that will be from atoms and the distance beetween the bonds, and are only measured in armstrong wich are 1/10,000,000,000 metres. So measuring it with a measuring tape or ruller just makes no sense.
 
I exclusively use Mil-Comm lubricants. I can't say enough good things about the fouled environment performance of these products. Not cheap...but very good technology. For blade pivots I use the MC2500 oil, but if I have stripped down the knife, I apply a thin film of TW25B light grease on either side of the bearing surfaces. This will do a brilliant job of resisting re-fouling of the pivot surfaces...really good stuff.

Check here for info...http://www.mil-comm.com
 
darklight said:
Well, I'm one of those guys that can speak english, but use the SI metric system. I'm getting quite confused, since I don't know if it is a name of mesureament you guys use, or if it is a mistake.
..............So measuring it with a measuring tape or ruller just makes no sense.
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Darklight, I was just messing around. When Cougar mentioned "molecule", I knew what he was saying I just couldn;t resist saying that I 'measured" the amount of lubricant that I used. I knw that "mm" doesn;t stand for "molecule measure", it really stands for "metric molecules", or is it....."mili-molecules"? ((( :D )))
 
Now that we have all the measuring issues solved :) Silicone spray is a real good lube to use it dries fast and leaves no oily film to attract dirt. Good stuff and cheap too.
 
The absolutely best cleaning, protection, and lubrication for any and all knives is a product called EEZOX. As far as protection is concerned and lubrication it simply cannot be beat. They used to only make gun products (which works great) but now have a product specifically for knives only. I bought a .95 oz oilier bottle of it. (Like Tuff Glide but a little bigger.) And this stuff penetrates the steel (overnight is best,) then you can wipe off the excess, and you will never have rust again.
 
If you are using/carrying a Microtech OTF, you will want to use a product called Triflow. I prefer the large aerosol can so you can spray down into both sides of the handle with the blade retracted and then work the action several times, and repeat. Shake out the excess, wipe down the blade and your done. Full power action, clean and lubed.
 
I'm wondering what's in that EEZOX that protects the steel from rust forever. Won;t it ever wash off (or out)?
 
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