Wrist Blade

Super Ultimate Mall Ninja showdown! If you find yourself trying to make or buy a knife based off of something you see in a videogame..... it would be wise to drop the controller and find a girlfriend. Like, as soon as possible.
 
It's an interesting prop, but as I and just about everyone else suggested, keep it a prop (rubber blade etc.) to keep yourself out of jail and uninjured. In upstate NY I could get arrested for even helping you build it if it were to actually become a bladed weapon.
Sinza you definitely have some interesting stuff in the way of props on your link.

-Page
 
sunshadow said:
THEN IT"S A GAME OF CHASE THE EYBALL!
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Never played that before. What are the rules? :P

But really, as far as I know OTF Switchblades are illegal in the majority of the US, and sharp objects themselves seem to be quickly becoming illegal in many parts of Europe.

If you really want to makes a knife, I'd recommend just buying a kit. Try that first and then move on the the (possibly illegal) switchblades. Also, as sunshadow said, I don't think having it sharpened or putting a very striong spring in a is a very good idea.

Good luck nonetheles,
Cody
 
wow, this made my night. i hope he reports back to let us know how it works out. or what happens when he gets caught:p seriously though, all the fantasy bud k stuff kills me, i get people asking me, "thats sweet, you make knives, can you make me one like this, with spikes and three blades and a pop out blade for a skull crusher?" i guess i cant understand because i never played video games. while the mall ninjas were playing their favorite character in a game, i was out in the middle of the night playing on rooftops and other not exactly legal things, (i was a bit of an urban explorer, not that im proud) my point is, the most practical, useful thing to have every day or otherwise is a plane, legal knife. maybe some good rope. nothing thats going to cut you to shreds or be dangerous. keep it in the video games.:D
-Lou
 
I can't help but disagree with the some of the guys that are trying to discourage you from making this. Personally I love mechanical....... anything :D It looks like it would challenge the engineering abilities of most that are here, me included. Just don't do it like the fella in the link that fitzo provided :D ROTFLMAO

Think of some of the stuff that Gil Hibben has made ? He's pretty well known...... or should I say famous, and rich because of it. John Lewis Jenson, who does a bolster build in "Blades Guide to Making Knives" does what I would consider fantasy, non-usable knives. IMHO, its just another road to go down.....(I think it goes in the direction of hollywood)

I myself like user knives for the most part too.

No disrespect or animosity meant to any here, just my humble, very tolerant as of late, opinion ;)
 
Before I start, same thing,
No disrespect or animosity meant to any here, just my opinion.
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Why make a sword??? You can't use it, or carry it? How about a dagger? Or a big huge Bowie? ......Or how about ANY BLADED WEAPON?
Can't carry it, can't use it, why build it????

Practical? Useful? Who cares? It's called ART. Some people have more imagination about them than others.

Assume the fellow has some intelligence, please.
Do you REALLY think he's going to wear it on his arm and go out and about shiving people???

If I asked for a sword would you all come down on me and say "You're gonna get in trouble if a cop sees ya with that" or "Be careful, you'll poke you're eye out" or "I just don't understand why you would want a sword, you can't use something like that and will go to jail if ya do"

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David made a good point. Are you going to tell Gil Hibbens that his knives are a waste of time?? How about Virgil England? Know who he is??? Is he wasting his time???
In my opinion Virgil is one of the most talented and creative artist in the knife community. Can you 'USE' his creations???? No, not really. It's called art.
Tia Goo, John Jenson...same thing.
And really, Gil Hibbens was around for decades and he was famous, but it was with his fantasy knives that made him WORLD famous. Ever seen the 'ALIEN' that Hibbens made??? BIG huge gauntlet blade. Waste of time??? I doubt many others could make it.

Now I agree on some points. Sure, warn people not to do stupid things. But don't assume he's stupid. Poke your eye out?!?!? Come on, he's not 12.

Mall Ninja???? Get a girlfriend???? Please. Do you feel better now that you've insulted someone, feel like a bigger man. I'm sure you're really a much much better person than he is..... No need for that, it's rude.

(sigh) If you don't know anything about the type of device he's asking about, why reply?
You're not helping. He asked for information, not a lecture. You're not his Dad.
If you had no information...if you don't know what you're talking about....leave it to those that do.

"would be an EXTREAMLY complicated build if you want it to work correctly" Really? Have you built one? Do you even understand the mechanics involved? Ever designed one???

"as far as I know OTF Switchblades are illegal in the majority of the US" "And of course, it will be illegal to wear in just about every state I can think of."

Ummmmmmmmmmmm (sigh) again, if you don't know what you're talking about better to be silent than put out wrong information. Look here -switchblade laws

http://www.amatecon.com/switchblade.html

You will see that out of 50 states 29 are legal to own. THATS MORE THAN HALF. I'll say it again MORE THAN HALF!!!And in 16 of those it's leagl to carry. LEGAL TO CARRY A SWITCHBLADE KNIFE.
I am sorry, but I am so sick of people refering to laws that they don't know anything about and don't research. Look it up sometime before you post. Check your local laws. "exception made for collectors and/or possession as curios or antiques" I would think that this would fall under'Curios' or 'made for collectors'.....wouldn't you?

MORE THAN HALF!

Blade length is calculated by edge length in most areas. That means a 3 inch double edge knife has a 6 inch cutting edge in the eyes of the law. So, if it's not sharp AT ALL, I mean ROUND that edge. And you round off the point a bit...is it still a 'blade'? A blade has a cutting edge. No edge-no blade-no breaking laws. I can make all the spring activated 'things' I want...BUT if I happen to put a edge on and sharpen that edge so the 'thing' is now a knife, yes that breaks some laws depending on where you are. A piece of steel without a edge is not a knife, no matter how fancy the handle or how fast the spring opens it. A flat piece of steel is just that, a piece of steel. Bevel it-sharpen it-now it's a blade.

Also, you can build a 'replica' and make it non-functional by drilling a hole straight through, putting in a bolt making it into a fixed blade. If blade dosen't move it's not a switchblade no matter how many springs and bell and whistles you strap on.

I've made 'replicas', totaly legal. Not sharp-not functional.
Just don't take off that locking bolt, that might make it automatic. And hey, I'm going to weld that bolt on. If someone else is determined enough to grind it off and sharpen part of it that's not my fault, he's now changing my design and original intent of the object.

And a important point...... It's not so much what a police officer finds on you...It's why is he searching you in the first place????
What did you do to make a officer want to search you?? Of course we all know that you don't have to allow a cop to search you, he needs a warrent for that. DON"T SAY IT's OK, Don't give up your rights, make him get a warrent. But don't do stupid crap that get you involved with police anyways.

And just currious...what about me? Some of you gave him crap just because he ASKED about such a device.

I build them. I design them.

In fact, I probally have the only forum about these weapons and props. Am I a mall Ninja???? I'm 40 not 14. I just like doing things a little different. The thought of making another hunting knife for my buddies bores me.

Making something that is complicated is much more of a challenge.

Making something that NO ONE else makes....PRICELESS!! JUST PRICELESS!!!

Please please keep making normal knives guys. If I'm the only one making these I have no compitition. They will come to me ;)

I'll end with this. If you want one as a cool toy to show your off to your friends, go for it. It's just another toy or work of art.

If you want one to really wear and use against another person as a weapon, that's horrible, don't contact me asking for one.


O.k. Sorry if I offended. Needed to rant a bit. Nothing personal, I just feel people should have a open mind and also read the laws.
 
Sinza,
Didn't meant to offend, your site has some pretty interesting gadgetry on it. One of my hobbies is teaching people how to fight with rapiers, as for swords I do sell them, both as fencing blunts and as sharp weapons. I do not sell, make or handle switchblades, gravity knives, shirriken, pilum ballistic knives, or sword canes as they are specifically prohibited in the copy of the New York State weapon laws I have and the inside of the greybar hotel is not where I plan to spend my days.
Generally when I have someone asking about making something they saw in a video game they usually are not old enough to vote, and certainly the YouTube link with the drawerslide knife had mall ninja written all over it. If I misperceived the age/maturity of the individual who started this thread I apologise. If CaptainSagura becomes one of your customers, That is good.
Personally I like the gadgets you have on your site, If I built one that had an actual blade attatched that could be conceivably sharpened, my wife who works in a law office would be reminding me of her "I don't do bail" rule

-Page
 
"And a important point...... It's not so much what a police officer finds on you...It's why is he searching you in the first place????
What did you do to make a officer want to search you?? Of course we all know that you don't have to allow a cop to search you, he needs a warrent for that. DON"T SAY IT's OK, Don't give up your rights, make him get a warrent. But don't do stupid crap that get you involved with police anyways."

Im sorry bud, but the law is the law. having an uzi under a trench coat isnt ok just because your not doing anything to make the officer search you. I have spent the night in jail for carrying a perfectly legal knife, and doing perfectly legal things. if they get a call from some sheeple that you have a knife and they dont like it the officers have plenty of reason to search you. and when they show up you will be bending over to change your tire and your sweater will fall over your knife to conceal it. Murphy's law. it will happen eventually.

as far as your stuff goes, fine, gadgetry is cool, but when you have to weasel around so many laws to do what your doing, it looses some allure. i do believe in the second amendment, if i could snap my fingers, carry laws would be very lax. then guys could carry whatever drawer slide knife they want, and when they pulled it, i wouldnt care cause id have a .45 on my belt. the facts still remain, the law is the law. its meant to be a guideline. just because you can find a sneaky way around it doesnt mean you arent asking for trouble.
-Lou
 
Sinza, I agree with a lot of what you said, despite the generally condescending tone. There is plenty of room for every type of creativity in knifemaking. I've followed art and fantasy customs for a long time. I REALLY enjoy the stuff on the "outside". For that matter, I personally see nothing wrong with them being fully functional if springs or mechanisms are involved, lest they be nothing more than prop or toy. In the hands of a responsible collector they offer little concern for misuse.

That said, you have a person who comes in here with a username out of anime and provides no introduction about who they are. They are asking after a weapon featured in a recently released video game associated with an "assasin". Despite the early reference to a "mall ninja" there was no attempt to clarify that this request came from a responsible adult. A simple introduction could have changed everything, and still hasn't been forthcoming.

Perhaps what you may not know is that every time there is a new video game or movie out that prominently features an edged weapon, we usually get a bunch of inquiries on the forum from people that would most definitely qualify as youngsters. The number of kids who flooded in seeking instruction how they could pound out a knife with a rock and dad's gas grill and make themselves a "real" Tom Brown Tracker after "The Hunted" came out was humorous to say the least.

No, I am not Captain Sagara's father, but I'm also not about to enable a child to produce or procure a device that could get him in trouble or harm others. Surely you can understand the hesitancy to do that in this world of crazy kids shooting up classrooms and malls?

I was the initial responder on this thread. I'm grandpa age. I pointedly asked whether this was out of a video game to try and get some feedback whether this was a kid or not. Perhaps I cast the thread in the wrong tenor by using the word "mall ninja" posting that YouTube vid, though it certainly qualified. If I did so, and CaptainS is a responsible adult inquirer, then I apologize. I simply bowed out of the thread when I couldn't feel comfortable.

If, however, you consider me too judgemental for not wanting to be an enabler of teenagers by providing information on exotic weapons, then I have to disagree.
 
Sinza, since CaptainSagura didn't fill out his profile yet, we don't know where he is from. In some places it is illegal to even OWN a switchblade. Were I to have one in my house, even as part of a collection, I could be charged with a misdemeanor. I also enjoy gadgets and mechanical things, but this one did have the potential to be illegal and dangerous.

I know from experiance that alot of the people that play video games are very mall ninja. In fact, alot of my friends collect swords and enjoy telling me stories about them having sword fights with sharp swords *cringes*. Not to say the OP is immature or a mall ninja, just saying that in my expriance, it isn't highly unlikely.

With all that said, I'd love to have a gadget like this to mess around with, though I'd probably end up cutting my wrists and getting a free trip to the hospital (well, not free, ambulances cost money) which is why I advised that he consider carefully making the knife.

~Cody
 
"despite the generally condescending tone"
I'm sorry. You're so right. That was unnessasary. I will try to do better.

"I'm also not about to enable a child to produce or procure a device that could get him in trouble or harm others"
I understand that too. But we were making zip guns in the 70's as kids without a internet. People will make what they want to make.
I'm not trying to be unresponsible, I'm not trying to arm a psycho kid, just answering his questions. Am I worried that he's going to go to high school and stab a bunch of kids, no, they get guns for that.
Video games: Well, I have to say that if the game has weapons like most do, it's going to involve killing. Assassin, StarRanger, super cop saving the world, if it has weapons your character will kill. It's what video games are. I'm 40 and I play Halo about twice a month at a buddies, good times.

"gadgetry is cool, but when you have to weasel around so many laws to do what your doing"
Sorry again, I know I made it sound that way, but I guess my point was this .
If all you want is a PROP, a toy, NOT A WEAPON than go for it. Build it and be responsible with it. Don't carry it, use it, or threaten with it. Don't make it into a weapon.

I wasn't trying to tell him how to skirt the laws. I was trying to let him know that there are way to make what he wants, dumb down the blade, and it won't be a weapon, just a toy. If it's got a rounded edge and no point he CAN'T hurt anyone with it. If he locks the blade out he could use it for a costume and not be breaking laws.
'Replicas' if dull-no edge at all, no point, dosen't move....shold be ok.
Make it out of aluminum. JUST DON"T SHARPEN IT. DON'T PUT A EDGE ON IT. KEEP IT A PROP.
"the law is the law. having an uzi under a trench coat isnt ok" I understood that he wanted a toy, not a weapon. I agree, don't break laws. But there is a way to work WITHIN the laws. I don't mean skirting or wheasle around them, I mean work with the laws. I'm not suggesting he make a weapon, but as a toy even a steel toy, you can do it and still keep it legal. No blades no edge no sharpness no point. He could still have what he wants and not be a threat or break the laws.


I guess I got frustrated because you were all quoting each other on how switchblades are banned in all states. AND THAT'S JUST FLAT OUT WRONG. Nobody read the laws.
More than half are ok. I just ask that before you start telling people laws, understand what you're talking about.

How many of you quoted that rule and were wrong about it? That's not good effort people, that's not helping.

Switchblade laws are a hassle enough, but when you get people who don't know what they are talking about quoting laws that they don't understand and are wrong about...you're just making it worse. They have their rules and laws.

All I ask is that if you are going to quote them, then know what you're talking about.

Is that too much too ask?


I'm sorry again if I offend anyone, I'm not trying to. I bow out at this point. I've had my say and I'm sorry if I made anyone angry.

Make props not weapons, be good to people, have fun, hurt no one.

Take care all
 
i just have to say, the "laws" you quoted are a yes no chart from 98. and the stuff on your website are not toys, they are sharp dangerous spring loaded things. and as a rule i think they are cool, but would i touch them with a 10 foot pole, no. unless he speaks up to clarify any of his intent, i doubt he was after a spring loaded spoon. i take no offense and hope i give none. im all for a flaming debate haha. though i dont think this is a place for such things.
-Lou
 
L.K.Smithy said:
i just have to say, the "laws" you quoted are a yes no chart from 98. and the stuff on your website are not toys, they are sharp dangerous spring loaded things.
-Lou
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Ok Damm me for responding when I said I was done.:foot:

O.k. you're right, that chart is from 98. It's what I could find. Here's a chart from Wikipedia.

U.S. state laws regarding possession, concealed and non-concealed carry State Possession Carry
Alabama Legal Allowed if not concealed
Alaska Illegal Illegal
Arizona Legal Legal
Arkansas Legal Allowed if not concealed, and blade is under 5 inches
California Legal Illegal
Colorado Illegal Illegal
Connecticut Illegal Illegal
Delaware Legal Allowed if not concealed; concealed carry allowed with permit or license
Florida Legal Legal
Georgia Legal Legal
Hawaii Illegal Illegal
Idaho Legal Allowed
Illinois Illegal Illegal
Indiana Illegal Illegal
Iowa Legal Legal if not concealed
Kansas Illegal Illegal
Kentucky Legal Allowed if not concealed
Louisiana Illegal Illegal
Maine Illegal Illegal
Maryland Legal Allowed if not concealed
Massachusetts Illegal Illegal
Michigan Legal Illegal
Minnesota Legal Illegal, only if the blade is above 6 inches
Mississippi Legal Illegal
Missouri Illegal, but exception made for collectors and/or possession as curios or antiques. Illegal
Montana Illegal, but exception made for collectors and/or possession as curios or antiques. Illegal
Nebraska Legal Allowed if not concealed
Nevada Illegal Illegal
New Hampshire Illegal Illegal
New Jersey Illegal Illegal
New Mexico Illegal Illegal
New York Illegal Illegal
North Carolina Legal Allowed if not concealed
North Dakota Legal Allowed if not concealed
Ohio Legal Illegal, only if the blade is above 6 inches
Oklahoma Legal Illegal, only if the blade is above 6 inches
Oregon Legal Allowed if not concealed
Pennsylvania Illegal, but exception made for collectors and/or possession as curios. Illegal
Rhode Island Legal Legal
South Carolina Legal Illegal
South Dakota Legal Legal
Tennessee Illegal Illegal
Texas Illegal, but exception made for collectors and/or possession as curios or antiques Illegal
Utah Legal Allowed if not concealed
Vermont Illegal Illegal
Virginia legal(only through online retailers) Illegal
Washington Illegal Illegal
West Virginia Legal Allowed if not concealed; concealed carry allowed with permit or license
Wisconsin Legal Legal
Wyoming Legal Illegal

Not a lot different, a few changes.
What is your point??? I stand behind what I said. These people were quoting laws that they haven't read. Switchblades are NOT illegal in all states. I don't care if the chart is 10 years old or not, these people are still wrong.
If you don't know what you are talking about best to keep silent. All they were doing is spreading false information. If you can find a 2007 chart that's great, but I will still be right. Why argue the point?

And I'm wondering, are you able to tell sharpness from a picture? If you can you're pretty good, I can't do that.

Sorry, I feel my condescending tone coming back. Sorry for that.

Look at it this way. Someone came here and asked for information on a design. Did he get any help, no not really. A couple of you did provide links and discuss constuction methods, but for the most part he was lectured, insulted, told incorrect laws, and pretty much told no.
If you didn't have the information he was asking for you were not the person he wanted a responce from. He didn't ask for (wrong) laws, we are all able to check our local laws if we feel the need to. He didn't ask for parental lectures, do you need to be told not to poke your eye out? No, neither do I and neither does he.

If you had no idea what he was asking for, move to a different topic. He was asking for design ideas, anyone that posted anything else wasted their time and his. And now it seems you've chased him away. Wonderful.
This is questions and answers not questions and lectures.

This post thread is done. He's gone, so I'm done here. If you ask a question or make a statement I won't see it. Bye
 
check out the movie called "smoking aces"one of the hitmen has a automatic spike on his 4arm.looks cool.i like the idea
 
i'm intrested in the wrist blade and just wondered if they actually existed, or if they are just really rare custom knives that were never commercial.

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