Writing skills improvement and thesauruses (Thesauri?), guides, etc

@ sbvk - Semantics, I think you are onto something here. I'm going to look into this in more detail. Thanks.

@ ALHSS - I'll look into McCarthy, thanks for the suggestion. I'm going to see if I still have a copy of Strunk & White. I know I had one during my time at university. Otherwise it's not terribly expensive and is a must have after all.

@ bladefixation - thank you sir. I appreciate the support. I've been interested in writing for a long time. A lot of my work, while being technology related is also very communicative to clients, other technologists, and newb technicians as well. It never hurts to exercise expressive writing muscles. I too like reading older book, as digital copies may tend to get "updated" or revised in some way and usually things get lost by way of improvement. The suggestions of Hemingway are more than likely a good starting point. I don't care to read too much variety at a time because I feel as if I tend to miss important things that should be noticed throughout the text.

@ Alex - I read a bit of a biography on David Foster Wallace last night, all I can say is that it sure is a shame to have lost someone with such a vivid and expressive mind. I found a snippet of Brief Interviews with Hideous Men, it was good, need to find the rest of it. Unfortunately, those that suffer from chronic depression are more likely to succeed at a suicide attempt when it is lifting than when it is being controlled by medication or other remission. This author was truly talented in his ability to delivery a mental image through words with what appeared to be little effort. I also looked at the Infinite Jest, and the summary looks like it would make for a great read. Thank you.

@ Piso Mojado ;) - That will come in handy too, Thank you. I've read some stuff from Gabriel Garcia Marquez, just before he passed away. My brother really enjoys non-American literature, usually in Spanish or Italian. I'm going to look into the Bryan Garner, Fowler, and Orwell books for sure, and see if I can find some stuff from the other science authors you mentioned. This will be pretty fun to research these works. :)

@ mete - I too have killed many a spell checker. I type too fast for my own good and constantly make the same typos (teh for the, tihs for this, etc). What is really interesting is that when I type out IP addresses a Macbook I use wants to automatically save it as a phone number or at times latitude and longitude coordinates. :rolleyes:

@ chopchop - I agree with the sentiment that simpler can be better. Sometimes I feel like my peers enjoy immersing themselves in jargon and bloviation to feed their ego instead of learning and sharing information. I'm going to change things up a little in the next couple weeks and see how it goes. I remember hearing of Randy Olson through a friend a few years ago. The friend coincidentally wanted to become a journalist for print media, and ended up working for a local newspaper and has various blogs on local and touristy stuff.
 
I work with people who write for a living, policy mostly and other papers. Having someone critique your work is a great way to improve. I used to proof read when I was a student, still ahandy skill.

For concise writing, hard to go past Lord Denning. He was a British judge who wrote in short sentences.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Lord_Denning
 
abebooks is another great online source for technical materials, textbooks, guides etc. Don't forget that Big River site also sells used books . . .
 
abebooks is another great online source for technical materials, textbooks, guides etc. Don't forget that Big River site also sells used books . . .

Abebooks is good, Alibris is good, Powell's and Better World Books are good, and don't forget that Amazon is sometimes cheaper in another country.

Why not check them all in one place? This checks 40+ sites and 20,000 sellers.

http://www.addall.com/

Search with ISBN-13. I usually go to Amazon for that: if someone knows a better way, let me know. Addall.com has a plugin for Firefox's search bar, and that saves a few seconds if you are only running one search.

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There is a tab for Used Books that takes you here

http://used.addall.com/

Search here for out-of-print or used only. For books with no ISBN, take your time and run a few searches: author and title, author only, permutations on the title.
 
Organization is the key to technical writing. Organization starts with clarity of thought or purpose of the document you are trying to prepare. It very much helps to have a very "cruel" proofreader. I thought I was a pretty good writer and I learned that my style lacked sufficient focus. There was too much un-necessary BS included that I believed at the time helped people understand better.

I was exposed to an office manager who insisted on reviewing everything beyond a simple business letter that was produced by the office. He was absolutely blood thirsty in terms of reviewing my writing that I "thought" was pretty good before giving to him for review. There was so much red ink and shuffling ideas and concepts around that I felt like a total novice. He was old school and I actually brought my personal computer to the office for my use to increase my efficiency. At that time, only selected people actually had a computer. The rest did it the old way, pen and paper. I got better and I got better mostly because of that one man. Gosh. I hated that guy then. :D

Writing novels is an entirely different kind of writing. I read books written by certain authors and just marvel at their ability with the English language.
 
The best way to improve writing skills, is to write. Sounds lame, but it's the truth. Writing is something that takes practice, and it becomes easier and more natural as you keep working at it. Stephen King, the master of horror, has been quoted saying something similar to, "I never thought I would be published."

I went to college and majored in an area that required a lot of writing, and now I am attaining my master's in another area that requires writing. Writing fiction is one of my hobbies as well, and I have won a few contests for fictional short stories. You just have to sit down and write.

In addition, it's always a good idea to read what you like to write. If you are looking to write technical papers, then find some and read them. As far as all the books that are there to assist you in your writing, well you can read all the books you want, but that doesn't mean you will be any better at writing when it comes to putting words down. Just have to keep writing. :)
 
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I am told that Napoleon had an idiot sitting outside of his command tent. When he wrote an order for his field commanders, he had the idiot read it and asked him what he said. If the idiot did not understand, he wrote it again and again until the idiot could tell him what the order meant. True or not the concept has stuck with me, I always had my ex-wife read what I wrote for publication and listened carefully when she responded.
 
I am told that Napoleon had an idiot sitting outside of his command tent. When he wrote an order for his field commanders, he had the idiot read it and asked him what he said. If the idiot did not understand, he wrote it again and again until the idiot could tell him what the order meant. True or not the concept has stuck with me, I always had my ex-wife read what I wrote for publication and listened carefully when she responded.

That has me questioning the motives of every friend who ever asked me to help them proof a paper.
 
It is teamwork that counts, when writing about a person or a person's work, I like provide them a chance to edit what I have written. My editor is a good hand, we have been working together for over 20 years, we get along well. I always have several knowledgeable folks edit before I send it to my editor, ex wife is no longer available.

A copy of Bartlet's quotations sits on my breakfast table I take notes and put the thoughts I read in my own words. Many are not anything I can use in my writing, but it is interesting to study their methods of communication. I make it a point to read from many venues. I enjoy what I write and do not consider it a job, but a privilege to share thoughts.

Thoreau has been an inspiration for many years, his journals very carefully presented in his words without the benefit of editors telling you what he said or meant are available from Princeton University.

I terminated my TV over 20 years ago and have plenty of time to read and write.
 
I am told that Napoleon had an idiot sitting outside of his command tent. When he wrote an order for his field commanders, he had the idiot read it and asked him what he said. If the idiot did not understand, he wrote it again and again until the idiot could tell him what the order meant. True or not the concept has stuck with me, I always had my ex-wife read what I wrote for publication and listened carefully when she responded.

I hope that story is true, because I really like it. Quite often a person tries to impress by using big words. To me, it means that a person doesn't know how to communicate well.
 
Try these two. Both provide some excellent stylistic advice:

Style: Lessons in Clarity and Grace, by Joseph Williams
Writing with Style: Conversations on the Art of Writing, by John Trimble
 
Thank you all kindly for the suggestions and advice. This thread turned out much better than I had imagined. The truth of the matter is that when it comes to writing procedural and technical material I get a bit frustrated. Not necessarily because I am unable to express my thought at that moment, rather I end up rewriting something 3-4 different times with various approaches (passive, expressive, subjective, and direct) and change terminology. I need more consistency, and proofreading my work always get me into full editing mode. :foot:

My goal is to use common but correct language to craft thoughts, ideas, and procedures into easily digestible paragraphs. We all see the huge walls of texts here and in other places, that is something I try to avoid. I also tend to get hung up when the document calls for a "flowing" style, say when you need to describe events that occurred over the course of time (expanding on one item can create digression galore). Ultimately, I feel increasing practice will prove more productive as well as proofreading with a softer view.
 
Wouldn't surprise me if some of you recognize me in certain parts of the forum as one of those guys who writes a lot. There is a reason to that I actually use bladeforums to improve my writing ability. I type up my post, proof read and make corrections a few times than finally hit submit. Than I reread the post and usually find one or two mistakes and fix them. I still need work but in the year I've been here I feel my writing ability has drastically improved.

Hope that helps, wish I could offer you more assistance but I honestly don't do much outside of that.
 
One of the best tips I ever got from English teachers was to read what you wrote out loud.

Apparently your ear is a pretty fine instrument for detecting all sorts of bad writing.

If it sounds good, it probably is good.

If it sounds bad, it probably is.
 
"Elements of Style" is the yardstick. Also I found the "Hodges' Harbrace College Handbook" very quick and useful back in the old College days of red ink and frustration. I'm sure there are newfangled online substitutes. Good Luck!
 
One of the best tips I ever got from English teachers was to read what you wrote out loud.

That is indeed a very good tip. My wife reads my writing aloud to me if it's something important. It allows me to concentrate on listening. I think I write good. Or at least gooder than most. :)
 
No article comes easy, I always edit my articles at lease 20 times, some more. Sometimes there are periods I hate them,then love them and finally decide I can do no more with it.

It is impossible to relate to every reader every time, but if it promotes discussion and or thought from the readers it is worthy I believe.

I don't pay much attention the authorities, sometimes they just teach and cannot write. I have seen many great articles that when critiqued by the "professionals" were canned by the writer who never wrote again. Let the readers be the judge.

If this is possible. I suggest that you defend your freedom to write your way against all odds.
 
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