Wtf Spyderco???

My para2 grind is outsTANDING,but delica ffg wasnt sharpened properly, so i reprofiled and convexed.Now glides through anything and holds good edge!
 
Yes they were sharp out of the box but the grind was poor...

So a perfectly fine functioning knife isn't enough anymore? It has to be visually perfect or less than 3 to 6 degrees off right?

Wow. When your company begins producing a superior product at the same or less money in the quantities Spyderco does please be sure to let us know. I'm in, as I'm already happy with knives that perform but are less than visually perfect for the price range these are in. With yours being perfect down to the degree at the same or less price pretty much guarantees you will sell so many knives......

Well, you get what I'm saying.

Joe
 
Wtf Spyderco.
Really???

Change your title to something a little more mature, and I may read the post.
 
Wtf Spyderco.
Really???

Change your title to something a little more mature, and I may read the post.

+2... You even had a super mod request you change the title and reword your post and yet you ignore him. That's not the way to get any respect in these parts. I suggest you shape up and do so quickly. Until then, be prepared to lose a bit of credibility.
 
Why do people say grinds when they really mean bevels? Typically uneven grinds would refer to the blade grinds not matching up on both sides, which I cant stand. Uneven bevels, not such a big deal. Just my .02
 
My VG-10 Stretch (C90PSBK with GI date code) is uneven.
My ZDP-189 Delica (C11PGRE with IJ date code) is perfect.
 
I have bought several Spyderco's and I've only had one arrive with an issue. The issue was on a Sage 1. It came with the pocket clip screw stripped out. I returned it to the dealer and they promptly sent me another one and it was perfect.
 
I've been collecting Spydies in the last few months. USPS just brought me a Para2 at a great price from Howes Knife Shop (great service and delivery btw). It only took me a few minutes of handling and testing it out to become totally in awe of this folder. Unlettered as I am in the niceties of these things, the grind and other blade-related features seemed excellent in my humble opinion. The other spydies, Endura, Delica, waved Delica, two Civilians, Manix2 and superhawk are all awesome products with are ergonomically perfect for my hand-brain connection, or whatever they call it. I've got a P'Kal coming now. Since I'm going broke with this addiction I almost hope that the original post, given the title, would cure me of this fatal attraction. But no luck. I still love them. Spydies and Kershaws are my favorite folders now. Oh, and I have an old Emerson Commander too... well, that's another story.
 
I have somewhere around 50-something Spydercos and I've sharpened them all with a jig I built; so it's pretty easy to tell if the bevels are uneven. Out of all of them I'd say probably 5 had noticeable differences when sharpening, and out of those 5 I can recall 2 that were pretty bad. One was a Sage 1 and I don't recall what the other was. It doesn't bother me any because I sharpen every knife I get but I can see where some people get upset if it doesn't met a minimum standard; and in my experience at least 90% of them do. That being said, I've had a lot less consistency on bigger fixed blades.
 
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I would say that the OP pretty much shot his credibility all to hell with his thread title. If a few degrees of bevel difference is the worst that life hands him, he should consider himself lucky indeed.

Cowboy up, give Spyderco a chance to make things better and call it a day.
 
I have to say that I've been surprised with the grind quality that has been coming in here from most of the production knives. I just fix them as needed. I actually enjoy handling the product but it does agrivate me to spend $150 plus for a tool that comes in half baked. The hatchet and axe grinds are the norm, it seems. How about the mismatched scales and liners? That's another thread, my bad.
wazu013
 
Why do people say grinds when they really mean bevels? Typically uneven grinds would refer to the blade grinds not matching up on both sides, which I cant stand. Uneven bevels, not such a big deal. Just my .02

Sometimes it's not so easy to tell if the problem actually lies with the bevel or grind. This can particularly be the case when using sharpeners like the Edge Pro or the Wicked Edge that apply consistent bevel angles to both sides of the blade and thereby magnify any pre-existing blade asymmetries.

My Gayle Bradley folder is a perfect case in point. To look at it as it came out of the box, everything seems perfect. The deep hollow grind is gorgeous and the bevels appear to be perfectly even. There were absolutely no outwardly visible indications that anything was amiss until the first time I went to sharpen it on the Edge Pro. I matched the factory bevel angle on the first side and raised a burr. I then flipped the knife over to work the opposite bevel and was surprised to see that the bevel angles were so far off that the stone was effectively resting directly on the edge. At the end of the day, it's not that big of a deal for me - I treat the folder almost as if it had a chisel grind. But I do understand why some folks find this phenomenon a bit surprising.
 
Why do people say grinds when they really mean bevels? Typically uneven grinds would refer to the blade grinds not matching up on both sides, which I cant stand. Uneven bevels, not such a big deal. Just my .02


In addition to what Bronco said, people refer to the bevels as "grinds" because technically it IS a grind.

You have your primary grind, which is the shape of the knife. (full flat, scandi, convex, chisel, you get the picture) Then you have your secondary grind which is the edge bevel.
 
Good point Bronco, I hadn't thought of that as I have always freehanded and match the bevels as best I can by eye. I can now see how an asymmetrical grind would reveal itself in the bevels if using a guided sharpening system. Learn somethin' new everyday.
 
In addition to what Bronco said, people refer to the bevels as "grinds" because technically it IS a grind.

You have your primary grind, which is the shape of the knife. (full flat, scandi, convex, chisel, you get the picture) Then you have your secondary grind which is the edge bevel.

Yes your right, I just thought it was a little confusing at first. I was looking at his pics trying to determine where the uneven grinds were. Then I figured out it was the bevels he was talking about. They are definitely interlinked though. Thanks for clarifying.
 
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