WWII OSS Weapon

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michaelsosborne

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Does anyone know the name of a hand-held weapon used by the OSS during WWII that resembles an ice pick, if anyone is making any reproductions of it today, and if so, where I might pick one up? I remember seeing one a while back, but can’t remember where I saw it. If I remember correctly, the weapon was one piece in construction, had a slender, elongated, metal rectangular handle, which ended in a spike. Any information on this weapon would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
I do not believe the original poster is talking about the Delta Dart - either Cold Steels plastic version, or the original Steel version by Pat Crawford, called the Devil Dart.

I think what MichaelOsborne is talking about is this:
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A WWII vintage OSS/SOE type spike, with a triangular blade and rectangular handle.

No one makes a "good" 100% reproduction of any of the OSS/SOE tools these days, but this tool, rendered in 420J2 by Chinese manufacturers, is commonly sold by places like Bud K, sometimes as a thrower. Its 420J2, but that wont matter as it doesnt really have an edge, its a stabbing tool - for its intended purpose, the 420J2 version would work as good as the original I posted a pic of.

I believe H.G. Long reproduced, with high quality, many of the original WW-II OSS/SOE clandestine/covert blades and spikes, but they are no longer doing so - and their stuff is about as hard to find as originals.

There are a few makers who do things like this, Bill Siegle makes some thumb daggers occasionally, he has (or had last time I Looked) one for sale in the Makers for Sale forum here on BF.
Fred Perrin makes a variety of blades that qualify as this sort of thing, from La Griffe versions to spike sof various kinds and sorts.
Of course, Pat Crawford makes the steel Devils Dart and a couple other weapons of this type.
Besides myself (I have a penchant for spikes and small concealable blades, modern variations [non-metallic, modern materials and whatnot] on the old concepts, so I make 'em a lot, just for fun) those are the only ones I can think of.
Actually, there is one other - ShivWorks and Trace Rinaldi make what they call the Lil' Loco that is designed, and implemented, just like an OSS/SOE piece might be, just in this case the designer/first user is a narcotics agent.

Don Rearic's Excellent Article on Covert Edged Weapons
Crawford Covert Knives
Small Knives, Theory and Application - An Undercover Agents Hideout Knives
The Lil' Loco
Rearics Article on Fred Perrin[url=www.szaboinc.com] Laci Szabo/Szabo Inc. carries several of Freds knives, and some others that may fit the covert description - be sure to look at the "hair pins" in Accessories.
An online catalog of some of Fred Perrin's wonderful little nasties, blades, push pics, stylets, etc. etc.

Have fun - these are wonderful little tools - addictive to study, and make. :) And they could come in quite useful in the right situation.
 
Not2sharp has one on his site that was a marriage between a spike bayonet and the handle from a Fairbairn/Sykes commando knife.
 
Whats his URL?

I've seen that pic before, he posted it once.

Been meaning to make one, get some MAS 36 bayonets (5 for $25 from Sarco), as they are my favourite spike bayonet (long and pointy cruciform spike) and a cheap FS and butcher 'em up to make one like that.
 
At one point in my life, I had an sks. The gun shop owner gave me the bayonet assembly seperate from the rifle... you can take the collar off and use the bayonet like a spike... all that for about ten bucks now..... They're about 14 inches long, but you can cut them down easily.

I found one at sksman.com... perhaps you can find better price at cheaperthandirt or some other place...
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This is a French model 1886-19-16-35 bayonet. One of these was used as the sources for the blade on the knife I posted above.

n2s
 
Looks like something the Belgians (or somebody ) supposedly recently adopted...I remember seeing ads for them in SOF a while back. I believe the blade was titanium. Anyone out there have one??
 
Satin, nice links, thanks.

I vaguely recall someone made a long thin flexible blade kinda like the Bowen Belt buckle knife exceptit had a 6" blade that went into the belt.
 
Thats right!!

I forgot I have two H G Longs in the drawer I picked up 10-12 years ago.

Thanks for reminding me. They got stuck back in the drawer as they are illegal to carry in most states. Had to have them though.

Brownie
 
Anyone remember that catalog, "U.S. Cavalry"? They had the coolest stuff!

Anyhow, they had a thing that looked very similar to the pic that Satin posted. IIRC, it was a high-quality blade, not some POS knock-off.
 
Has anyone seen the ads in Shotgun News from IMA (International Military Antiques) I guess it is - for several months off and on they have been advertising what they call a "D-Day Invasion Fighting Knife", which is, basically, a knurled metal handle with a 6 or 7" cruciform spike blade on it.
I've been wanting one, but never could justify the $45 or whatever in the face of other goodies I want, at the time when I had the spare cash.
Anyone have one?

Pretty cool - and along the lines of what we're discussing here, very much.
 
Blacjack Knives Ltd. (Effingham Ill.) used to produce an OSS Sleeve Dagger in 440A.

n2s
 
Originally posted by not2sharp
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Here it is.

n2s
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Man, that is one nasty lookin' piece of steel! What is the overall/blade length?? If you had a round piece of steel, how would you grind a blade like that?
 
ichor,

It is photographed on a 1 inch grid. The blade length is 6 inches.

n2s
 
Not2sharp,

That’s a interesting fighting knife, could you tell us more about it?

Thanks!




- Frank
 
Originally posted by not2sharp
ichor,

It is photographed on a 1 inch grid. The blade length is 6 inches.

n2s
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Thanks. It's not made from a single piece of steel, is it? You know, like a Reeves, et al. Can you see any evidence of a weld?
 
Looks to me like its two pieces, the handle from an F/S dagger and the blade from the bayonet, like N2S mentioned - and it appears to have the same construction as an F/S might, rat tail tang through handle, with a nut on the pommel holding it all togather.
 
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