www.BestKnives.com......You decide:( Long post.

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Ok, first, a bit of history. I placed an order for 3 knives on 12/26/02. I ordered a BM 940 plain edge, BM 921 plain edge, and a BM 806D2 plain edge (all three were said to be in stock). I asked if the order would go out that day, and Mike (the guy who took the order) said, "Probably not, but it should go out tomorrow (Friday)." Ok, no big deal, but I told him I wanted the package shipped Priority Mail via USPS so I could get it ASAP (I know a package from Florida will get to NC in 2 days Priority). He said, "No problem. I'll put a "rush" on this, so it will go out asap." Ok, sounds good to me. Well, after placing the order, I asked Mike for a total amt with shipping. He said he didn't know, but he could e-mail me after he found out what the shipping cost was. I gave him my e-mail, which he repeated correctly. Well, no e-mail from him by the next day. I sent them an e-mail (so they would definitely have my address correct) on Friday asking again for a total cost, and delivery confirmation. Again, no response. Well, come Monday, I figure I won't worry with calling for a cost, because I should get the package by then, and the cost will be on the invoice. Well, no knives. Tuesday rolls around, and you guessed it, no knives. I call Best Knives to find out what was up, and Mike said the knives were shipped out on Monday Priority Mail. A bit ticked, but keeping cool, I said Ok, and proceeded to wait for my knives. If the knives were shipped on Monday, they would get to my house by Thursday since Wed was New Years. Thursday has come and gone, and again, no knives. I did receive a knive I bought from 32055 (Jeff Marrs) in the Exchange Forum, which he shipped from OK on Monday (the same day my knives were supposedly shipped). Ticked off, I figured the knives would get here by today. You guessed it, no knives again!:mad: Getting pissed now, I called Mike today, and inquired about my order. After about 3-5 minutes of listening to him breathe on the phone while he looked up my order, he finally said, "It looks like they bumped you up to Express Mail at no charge." I asked when the knives were shipped, and he said, "We put the order in on the 28th (remember the order was placed the morning of 12/26), so it should have gone out then, or at the latest, on Monday." Remember that he said it was shipped on Monday via Priority, and now he is saying Express mail on Saturday or Monday? I asked for a Confirmation number, and after fumbling around on the phone for 10-15 seconds, he gives me an Express Mail tracking number. Well, if it was shipped on Monday Priority, I should have had it by Thursday. If it was shipped on Monday Express Mail, it should have been delivered on Wed. New Years day because express packages get delivered 365 days a year, even on holidays. I'm thinking something isn't quite right, so I get off the phone with him, and call the local Post office. The lady there punches the number in, and says, "That number hasn't been accepted at any post office. So, unless there was a catastrophic black-out that caused all data to be lost at the other PO, which is very highly unlikely, this package hasn't been shipped. That package would have been scanned when it was accepted for delivery at the PO, and it would show up on my intranet terminal." Now I'm really pissed, and feel like I have been lied to and given the run-around. I call Best Knives again, and get their answering maching stating business hours. I call back several times and keep getting their answering machine. Well, now I'm thinking that my number is showing up on caller ID, and being ignored. I then call using my cell phone, and guess what?, he answers the phone. Concidence?...You decide. Well, I don't even make a deal about that to him, I just want to know where my knives are. I told him that the PO has no record of that tracking number, and he says, "I don't know. Just give it until Monday, and if the knives haven't delivered by then, I will send you another order." I asked what the date on the receipt was, and he said he would have to pull it, because he didn't have it where he was. I asked him how he could have a receipt from the PO saying they accepted the package, without it showing up in their database, and he said, "I don't know, but I have the receipt, so they got the package." He just told me he didn't have the receipt earlier, but instead, would have to pull it from my order. He then said he would pull the receipt (which he supposedly already had), and take it to the post office today to find out what the deal was. I asked him to e-mail me as soon as he found out something, and again gave him my e-mail address. He said I wouldn't hear anything until later this afternoon since that is when they go to the post office. Ok, so I hang up with him, and then proceed to send him an e-mail reminding him about keeping me informed. This way, I know (again) that he has my e-mail address. As you have probably figured, I haven't received any response from him. It is now 19:15, almost an hour an a half after they close, and haven't heard jack shi+. I called several times after 17:30 (when they were still open), and only got their message giving business hours. I guess my cell phone number also shows up on caller ID, and was remembered and ignored (again, this part is just speculation, but a bit too coincidental in my book). I know this post is a bit earlier than what is customary in these situations, but I feel I have been lied to, and that is unacceptable. Maybe I should have waited another week or so before ranting here, but oh well. If the situation is made right, I will update this post, but it won't change the fact that I have been lied to. I am at the point of cancelling my order, but I almost hope that the Express Number he gave me was one he is putting on my order to be shipped today. I hope this doesn't end up with me having to file a dispute with my credit card company. This whole situation has left a very bad taste in my mouth, and I will not order from this company again. I did a search in GBU before placing my order, and only found one post, which was a positive (but it was dated earlier this year). Another mention of them stated quick response to e-mail, and quick shipping. Ha! Not in this case. Sorry for the long post, but it was more of a way for me to vent my frustrations and anger. If you decide to shop there, be prepared. Hopefully, this is just one bad deal out of many good ones that have been had with this company, but it has definitely cost them my future business.

Longing for my knives in NC,

Mike:grumpy:
 
Hmm, I feel for ya, especially since it seems like you're getting the BS runaround. (Heh, got a THIRD phone number you can call them from)
 
Give Mike a chance. I have done a good deal of business with them and they have never given me the runaround. I got the wrong knife once and he sent me a call tag so I would not have to pay to ship it back to Florida.

Bestknives is definately one of the good shops. Just give Mike a chance to rectify the situation.

Zach
 
Zach, I hope you are right, and like I said, I will make updates as they happen. Hopefully they will be good updates. I just feel I am getting nothing but smoke and mirrors right now. All I want are my knives. I've been waiting for them since last week. It's one thing when you know you aren't getting them for a week or so. It's another when you wake up each day, waiting for the mailman to arrive with your new toys, only to see him put regular mail in your box. I just want an honest answer, not some runaround. Glad you have had good dealings with them though. Unfortunately, I'm 0 for 1 so far.

Mike
 
Certainly this post won't help them selling knives to ME.
I had this same issue with quickknife.com, they let me pay and didn't send the knife, din't answer emails or give money back after 3 months of me asking for the price to be refunded. I had to threaten them saying I would have reported them to yahoo (wich is hosting their site)

I am saying this because I feel that in case this guy, Mike, doesn't explain you the situation giving a good reason for being so evasive, and so late with your order, you have a good right to get your money back, and you have one more reason to avoid buying from them again (that I think you have already settled).
 
Medic,
I bought a couple of knives from mike and pretty good luck. Got the wrong blade once, but he bent over backwards to fix. Hope it gets straigtend out. Also got the call tag to send back the wrong one and he sent out the new knife immediately.
Droopy
 
Makes you wonder if they had everything in stock like they said.
Why else would they give you the run around.

They tell you they are instock and when they get them in a couple of days they ship them out to you.
They were maybe hopping you would put up with the delay and if not they could blame it on the post office.

Good luck,
 
I'm basing this solely on the information you have given.

If the knives have not shipped on Monday 1/6/03 with a veriable 100% tracking number, I would............


Cancel your order. You ordered three not inexpensive knives from this company. They did not deliver them to you as promised. It is not like they were delayed in the mail or lost in transit. They never were sent out! Then you get some bogus tracking #? Sounds like they were trying to get a sale to fund the inventory, that is order it when you order....(Just In Time for you engineering types out there). Lousy tactics.

This is not a charity for you to fund and understand the "difficulties". You ordered knives and that's it. Patience or "they'll get it right for you" is not the issue. Get your money back. Plenty of places to buy knives out there. Maybe this will remind this dealer of that!
 
I have received the knives today (Sunday) via Express Mail. I am glad this ordeal is over. A couple points I would like to make are.
  1. According to the invoice, the knives didn't even ship until Friday the 3rd
  2. The Express Tracking number I was originally given was obviously bogus, as the package I received had a different number.
  3. This whole mess wouldn't even be on this forum if Mike had only said, "Hey man, I don't know what's up, but somebody on our end obviously screwed up. I will Express these out to you by the end of the day. Sorry about that." Instead, he gave me a bogus ship date twice, gave me a bogus tracking number, and didn't respond to my e-mails.
  4. The package was shipped out of San Diego California, but BestKnives is in Florida. Is this where their warehouse is?
  5. On their behalf, they did send the package Express Mail without charging me any shipping ($19.95 total). This is a plus, and shows they know they messed up, and did go a step farther and paid for Express Shipping.
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    In the end, the situation was messed up, but they did go out of their way to make it right for me. I only wish Mike had been up front with me, instead of leading me on for a whole week. He could have kept me as a customer if he had been straight, but instead, he lost a customer by stringing me on.

    Mike
 
Medic1210,

Your knives were drop-shipped from a distributor in San Diego, CA. The company that does the drop-shipping (Moteng) is usually very reliable. (I know because I occasionally use them.) I do know that they were short staffed between Christmas and New Year. That could have been the problem, however I have never heard of them taking longer than a day or two extra to send orders out.

Mike (www.bestknives.com) really dropped the ball on this one. IMHO it is just normal customer service to keep up with orders and email. You were lied to with the bogus tracking number, and generally given the run around.

All companies screw up occasionally. I really hate to admit that I screwed up to a customer, but it is far, far better than lies and deceit. Customer loyalty is a must in retail these days. Loyalty is earned through honesty and integrity. Unfortunately, I suspect that Mike lost more than one customer with this sale.

Pam
 
Old adage says, Honesty is the best policy.
It have been documented before in here, that I've sent a MO to Mike at New Graham, and he was denied twice to cash the MO (Canada Post MO made in USD, they and USPS claims that USPS and any bank will cash them)
I was very pissed, and told him if he got nailed the big processing fee by the bank $30USD, I'd rather help him fork it out, cause I know for sure that would eat up all the profits of the order and then some. He said it was totally fine and he'll handle it. He then told me later that USPS would not accept the MO.
This really got me pissed.
I told USPS that I sent this MO down to their Bluefield, VA office on Virginia Ave, and they're not taking my MO, while they're supposed to. I went and filed a complaint in Mike's name so that those a$$holes over at USPS would get it right next time if Mike needs to.
He told me honestly that he could not cash the MO, and could not ship until then, and I'm more than glad to try and help the situation.
Coincidentally, USPS had told me that their office have been informed that regular Canada Post MO in USD should be cashed instead of rejected.
Giving you the run around and bogus tracking is just outright lying. I'd have phone the credit card, pull the payment, and deal with it then. I don't think I'd even think about bestknives.com as a knife shop. If they mess around with their own people inside the USA, I wonder what would happen to me trying to get an order to Canada.
 
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