xm 18 price

Jarrett Fleming

Jarrett Fleming

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I hope I don't make anyone mad by asking this but why do hinderer knives cost $600 and up? I had a chance to handle a few at the blade show friday and I can't say anything bad about them. I think that an xm18 will be my next purchase but I was just wondering what makes these knives so expensive?
 
They don't cost that much if you are fortunate enough to get one directly from Rick, or win the lottery at Blade or other knife shows he attends. Rick sells them for less than that.

His production is far below the demand, so the second hand market is ludicrous. He also makes other models of knives, pens, kubatons, lanyard beads and other accessories - another reason for the low XM-18 production numbers.

About a year ago the second hand market for the XM-18 was $550. It now appears to be around $650, with some I've seen being as high as $750.

Some of Ricks approved distributors put markups on the knife also.

I do believe that's why Rick did the collaboration with Kershaw / Zero Tolerance - these new models very closely resemble the XM-18 (both flipper and non flipper). That should put more knives on the market for people to buy.

Rick makes really nice stuff, and he and Rob Orlando are really good people - I think patience is the word of the day when looking to enter the Hinderer club. It's taken some up to 4 years to find an XM-18 on the second hand market at a price they can live with.

Of course - he also conducts training courses at his shop and has get togethers on his property - and usually he has some knives available for purchase if you attend. Are you close to Wooster Ohio? If so check out his website - nothing like actually buying the knife from the man who actually made it.

Rob Orlando posted these prices recently on another forum (Blade Show 2011 prices):

3" XM-18 Production $385.00

3.5" XM-18 DLC BLACK Production $450.00

4" XM-24 Production $550.00

3.5" XM-18 Hand Ground Custom $550.00

4" XM-24 Hand Ground Custom $700.00

*CF Scales add $100

Those prices are VERY reasonable for a Hinderer.

Good thing you're not looking for an XM-24 - those are going for $1200-$1400 on the second hand market.
 
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Ok thanks for the replies guys. Toyz I agree those prices that you listed are very reasonable for a hinderer and I do like the xm 24 a lot but if I spent that kind of money on a knife I wouldn't feel comfortable using it, and I don't have or want any safe queens.
 
You should pay exactly what you think a Hinderer is worth and not a cent more! :D
 
I had an XM-18 directly from Rick - it was a great knife but a little on the small side for me. I let it go in the hopes that he would design a larger knife - and he did! Only problem - the XM-24's are tougher to come by than the XM-18's.

$1200-$1400 is WAAYYY more than I would ever spend on one knife. I found my limit, and it is around $600 per knife - and those are few and far between.

Good luck to all that are in the hunt for the elusive Hinderers.
 
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Toyz, I am with you. $600 is just about tops on any type of knife, fixed or folding. $1400.00 would put a nice custom .45 in my gun case IF I even had that much.
Looks like I might have to check out his website for those get togethers. I saw couple of his folders on a post here today that were pretty sharp looking (pardon the pun). That would be pretty cool to go to one and be able to pick up one of his knives while he was there.
Good luck to you on your hunt for your dream knives . . . . :thumbup:
Be safe.
 
Toyz, if you are only willing to spend $600, I am afraid you will not be owning a Rick hinderer!
 
bigtime said:
Toyz, if you are only willing to spend $600, I am afraid you will not be owning a Rick hinderer!
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Toyz said:
They don't cost that much if you are fortunate enough to get one directly from Rick, or win the lottery at Blade or other knife shows he attends. Rick sells them for less than that.

His production is far below the demand, so the second hand market is ludicrous. He also makes other models of knives, pens, kubatons, lanyard beads and other accessories - another reason for the low XM-18 production numbers.

About a year ago the second hand market for the XM-18 was $550. It now appears to be around $650, with some I've seen being as high as $750.

Some of Ricks approved distributors put markups on the knife also.

I do believe that's why Rick did the collaboration with Kershaw / Zero Tolerance - these new models very closely resemble the XM-18 (both flipper and non flipper). That should put more knives on the market for people to buy.

Rick makes really nice stuff, and he and Rob Orlando are really good people - I think patience is the word of the day when looking to enter the Hinderer club. It's taken some up to 4 years to find an XM-18 on the second hand market at a price they can live with.

Of course - he also conducts training courses at his shop and has get togethers on his property - and usually he has some knives available for purchase if you attend. Are you close to Wooster Ohio? If so check out his website - nothing like actually buying the knife from the man who actually made it.

Rob Orlando posted these prices recently on another forum (Blade Show 2011 prices):

3" XM-18 Production $385.00

3.5" XM-18 DLC BLACK Production $450.00

4" XM-24 Production $550.00

3.5" XM-18 Hand Ground Custom $550.00

4" XM-24 Hand Ground Custom $700.00

*CF Scales add $100

Those prices are VERY reasonable for a Hinderer.

Good thing you're not looking for an XM-24 - those are going for $1200-$1400 on the second hand market.
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It can be done.
 
bigtime said:
Toyz, if you are only willing to spend $600, I am afraid you will not be owning a Rick hinderer!
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I think Rick said he will be increasing production of the XM-24 after Blade - so there's always a chance. I don't mind paying Rick for the knife - I have a problem paying double + on the second hand market.
 
I agree. Once a knife creep near the $1000 mark the pocket starts hurting. But prices from the man himself aren't bad. I'll wait till next years show since its in my home town. Gotta get me a 24 but no way will I pay second hand price for it.
 
Based on those prices posted by Rob, I'll be waiting for an XM-24 or XM-Custom version when another show comes along or maybe joining one of Hinderer Knive's Events at the ranch. Although the ability to purchase is not for certain because of their lottery, nearest one is the Plaza Cutlery Show in CA on October. For now, using a production XM-18, has kept the temptations at bay. Would like to one day put an XM custom grind through its paces in my context of work.
 
reading this Thread made me realize how lucky i was winning the Hinderer lottery, this blade is amazing, know i need a hinderer lanyard!!!! Ha Ha!!!!!
 
Rudeco said:
reading this Thread made me realize how lucky i was winning the Hinderer lottery, this blade is amazing, know i need a hinderer lanyard!!!! Ha Ha!!!!!
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You stinker!! That was my knife! :mad:

Congrats though really. :D :D
 
I like Hinderer's knives. They are beauties. BUT it reminds me a lot of when I was into sporting clays when I lived in CA.

I did most of my shooting with my plain jane Parkerized, plastic stock 870. I constantly out-shot guys with fitted Beretta over unders and high end Beneli shotguns.

I did, (and still do own) some nice Browning Citori shotguns. But I never shot any better with a dedicated trap or sporting clays gun than I did with my 870 or my Browning Gold which I used in the field.

Rick's knives are wonderfully designed overbuilt pieces of superior engineering. AND by all means if you feel a folding knife is worth 4, 5 or 600+ dollars then buy it.

BUT just like the Peratzi shotgun that costs 10K and up, it is not going to be 7 times better than the Browning Citori just because it costs 7 times as much.

Is one of Rick's knives 3 times as good as a Benchmade or 5 times as good as a Spiderco???

That said I may jump on the Hinderer bandwagon myself one of these days. BUT first I have to get myself a Wicked Edge sharpening system. That is going to be my next splurge.
 
Honkey said:
Is one of Rick's knives 3 times as good as a Benchmade or 5 times as good as a Spiderco???

That said I may jump on the Hinderer bandwagon myself one of these days. BUT first I have to get myself a Wicked Edge sharpening system. That is going to be my next splurge.
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Absolutely YES to both brands in question - h*ll yes in fact.

You brought me back to when I was really into skeet shooting and sporting clays. You're either a good shot or you're not. In the club house it's a different story where the guys pull out their extremely high end doubles to the ooohs and aahs of the gang waiting on deck, complete with special glasses with taped out sections....what a hoot.

I shot a Remington 1187 or a field grade 20 ga Citori with skeet/skeet chokes. They seemed to break the clays quite well. :)
 
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