Y2K, GO AWAY!!!(minimal knife content)

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Scarman

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Is anyone else tired of the HYPE surrounding Y2K? I know I am.
Sure, I have done my part to prepare(within reason). I have bought a few knives which are Y2K compliant(tested by putting my calender to January 2000 and then trials of cutting, slicing, chopping with no ill effects
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), but seriously I don't believe any global catastrophe is coming about.
I am a Christian and have put up with these end of the world or end of the ages sermons for far too long, and have as yet to witness anything remotely similar to what has been predicted.
Perhaps there will be foul-ups and problems hither and yon, but realistically I think the only ones who really have anything to worry about are these salesmen and outlets who have stockpiles to unload and not enough people to unload them on and the poor slobs who have sold everyting for shelters and supplies.
Sure, I could be wrong(there is a first time for everything
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), but I don't think the end of the world is upon us, Yet.
What do you think?

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The vague and tenuous hope that GOD is too kind to punish the ungodly has become a deadly opiate for the conscience of millions.

*A. W. Tozer

2 Cor 5:10
 
I think there is too much vested interest in the 'Comfort Zone' for things to deteriorate to any notable degree.

A paranoid client who embraces any theory uncritically as long as it is 'alternative' has expressed the idea that 'they' will use Y2K chaos as a pretext to declare Martial Law.

I explained that 99% of the people in this country wake up in the morning, go to work, come home, eat dinner, watch tv, go to bed, then get up and do the same thing the next day. If they declared Martial Law, very few people would even notice the difference. The financially structured 'ways and means' in this country are far more effective crowd control than guys in uniforms on the corner with guns.

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"The snake that cannot shed its skin perishes.
So do thinkers who cannot change their opinions;
they cease to think."
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I sincerely hope that the skeptics are right. However, I don't think so, and here's why:
I do computer software analysis and design for a living - 16 years now - and I have some idea of the amount of bad code out there: it's huge. It took 20 years to write, and it can't all be fixed in one or two. Anyone that claims that it can is flying in the face of 20 years of software development history: nothing comes in on time. Y2K is the first deadline in history that cannot be slipped.

There is no mechanism of which I'm aware that allows anyone to "Certify" that a system is Y2K "complient". This means, simply, that anyone that claims that their system is certified complient is lying. Additionally, I believe that the "embedded systems" issue will have almost totally unpredictable consequences.

Finally, the people that know the most about the problem - on the technical side - are most concerned. The more they deal with Y2K, the more they're afraid of it.

Please no flames. If anybody wants documentation in the form of links, that's doable.

Maybe the photovoltaic system I put in last year will pay off.

db
 
nothing to flame Dave, your right. It won't be fixed "just like that" regardless what peole think. Things are going to be really bad...
 
Well, I suppose we will just have to wait and see.
I don't doubt your information, just the doom and gloom so many are "predicting".

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The vague and tenuous hope that GOD is too kind to punish the ungodly has become a deadly opiate for the conscience of millions.

*A. W. Tozer

2 Cor 5:10
 
Picture yourself the USof A in the middle of a Railroad intersection. From the north come a freight train labeled overprice stock market ready to dump, from the south comes a freight labeled Asian dumping of goods on the American market,from the east is coming a freight labeled Russian and Chinese military alliance with powerful strategic delivery systems, and out of the east comes Y2K freight train with tons of embedded chips locked away in all kinds of systems. Y2k is only one problem. Take your pick.
 
Only those of you reading this thread will know about this joke I plan on pulling. I will shut off the forums that day just for fun.... I wonder what everyone will think?

OK I won't do it!!!!

But I would like to see Comedy Central do it. Imagine them doing a fake break away for the countdown. Then right as the clock hits 12 and the ball hits the bottom and the 2000 lights up they switch to snow....

Then they come back 10 seconds later and say GOTCHA!


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[This message has been edited by Mike Turber (edited 09 December 1999).]
 
Mike,

I like that idea, now that could work on various levels.

Now to convince my wife that my Y2K purchases are only a computer glitch.....Yeah, that's the ticket
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The vague and tenuous hope that GOD is too kind to punish the ungodly has become a deadly opiate for the conscience of millions.

*A. W. Tozer

2 Cor 5:10
 
Where's H.G. Wells when we need him?

Anyway, If we have become that computer-dependent (and short-sighted), we deserve whatever we get.
 
In my homeown of St. John's (capital city of the largest rock in the Atlantic, that would be Newfoundland, Canada) the city has taken a novel approach to dealing with the Y2K situation. They are allowing ALL the bars to be open for 42 hours straight starting New Year's Eve. In a city that ranks as having more bars per capita and consumes more alcohol per capita in all of Canada, that's really scarry. I guess they figure everyone will be too drunk to panic
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"Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n"
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There are only two types of people; those who understand this, and those who think they do.
 
EXCELLENT!!!

Party over a Johan's!!!

"This place is going to Rock"

Don't mind me, I'm just getting off of SDNCO and I am losing it slightly....

No you're not

Yes I a...hey who said that?

Said what?

That's it, I'm outta here....

Peace
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The vague and tenuous hope that GOD is too kind to punish the ungodly has become a deadly opiate for the conscience of millions.

*A. W. Tozer

2 Cor 5:10



[This message has been edited by Scarman (edited 09 December 1999).]
 
Now I'm freaking double-posting. That's it for me, time to pop-smoke.
Hasta....
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[This message has been edited by Scarman (edited 09 December 1999).]
 
Personally, I think it's all a load of crap. I'm sure something will fail here and there, especially in maybe the third world nations, but I don't see the need for Martial Law, water rations, pilleage and plundering.
The more interesting aspect of this panic is that a great number of people apparantly so stuck to technology, that they believe life as we know it will cease. I'll let up, the trees will still be there, the woodburning stove will still be hot, the well still has water in it and my truck was built before they stuck computers in them, so I have little doubt that anything will be different from any other day. I guess I won't be able to check BF unless they use an Apple Macintosh Server. Dang! My world is coming to an end after all
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I'm beginning to hear rumblings and rumors about hackers unleashing a lot of viruses to celebrate Y2K. Mike's post reminded me of this. Some viruses are supposed to make your machine act like it has a Y2K bug problem. We'll see soon enough. Hack - Bug - Practical Joke = interesting time.

On the serious side, the situation I have the most concern about are the medical devices with older chips in them. The most potential for trouble is where the budgets are lowest and fixes have not been applied due to lack of funds. If people die from a problem which could have been fixed, it will be a tragic thing.

There are millions of older chips in all kinds of devices which are still being used. We will just have to be prepared to address any failures as they occur. We may see a bunch of emergency appropriations here in the US to retrofit fixes where they weren't addressed ahead of time.
 
Here's a scenerio for ya:

It's the first day of February, 2000 in Detriot, Boston, NYC, etc. January temperatures were pretty mild, so it didn't matter that the utility power has been erratic. Uh Oh. Here comes a real pulse of cold, heavy arctic air, and the nighttime temperatures go from 10-20 degrees down to 10-20 below. Oops - another power outage, only this time it lasts for three days.

All those people living in apartments are now cold: some are freezing. The heat is off in the buildings, and water pipes begin to freeze. The people are in real danger of doing likewise, so some of them - the ones that have no other place to go - attempt to generate their own heat by burning paper, wood, anything to keep from freezing.

Aaahhh. Finally a thaw. The frozen pipes, which burst in many buildings, begin to leak. Soon 100,000 leaking water pipes have drawn the city water system pressure down to nothing.

Remember those folks burning stuff to keep from freezing? Well, a few fires got away from the owners, and a few buildings begin to burn. Quick, call 911. (911 might be working.) Here comes the Fire Dept. Thank God.

No water pressure.

Think about it.

db
 
my two odd thoughts:
I don't see why anyone would believe that the Biblical apocolypes in going to happen in 2000, Jesus was born around 4bce, so hid 2,000th birthday has past and even if you go by the miscalculation of the 4th century, he was born in 1ce, so we still have one more year of hedonism

Now this won't affect many of you, but new years is friday night this year, so by the time Shabbat is over, either the world will be over, or the fun will have past
Aaron

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Scarman I'm not sure you want to party at my place; St. John's will be the first city on the continent to enter the new millenium. In other words, I'm going to know about all the Y2K s**t before anyone else does. I think I'm goin' drinkin'.

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"Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n"
John Milton
There are only two types of people; those who understand this, and those who think they do.
 
Canadian government has all kinds of contigency plans for Y2K for the last years such as operation Abacus where the military will take over with such plans as bringing ships up the St Lawrence to run hospitals with their ships generators. It looks like the NEwfies arent worried at all about Y2K. Maybe they have the right idea. Get drunk when the whole thing goes down!
 
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