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Himalayan Imports Dui-Chirra
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I desperately wanted a Berk Special but due to the price I had to satisfy my Dui Chirra craving with a Chitlangi.
 
If you want to get technical, the one at top has what looks like a hollow grind edge, thus making it into a tin chirra if you wanted to get picky. Likewise you could count the Tin chirra as having an uncounted extra fuller between the edge and the third fuller. I don't know what you call a 4 fullered khuk.
 
Tin Chirra means two spines (or ridges), not two fullers. There will always be one more spine in number than there are fullers. Thus, a blade like the HI Bowie, YCS, Chitlangi, abd Berk Special with two fullers has three ridges or spines, thus making them Tin Chirras. A khuk like the Gelbu Special which has one wide fuller has two ridges, one on either side of the fuller -- yep its a tin chirra.

Keith

P.S. I thinnk we're all "Fuller" it!
 
Originally posted by Ferrous Wheel
Tin Chirra means two spines (or ridges), not two fullers.

There will always be one more spine in number than there are fullers.

Thus, a blade like the HI Bowie, YCS, Chitlangi, abd Berk Special with two fullers has three ridges or spines, thus making them Tin Chirras.

A khuk like the Gelbu Special which has one wide fuller has two ridges, one on either side of the fuller -- yep its a tin chirra.

Keith
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Keith I think you may have misread Rusty's post. Rusty is counting the hollow in the hollow ground edge as another fuller making it a four fullered khuk.
It's always been my understanding that the fullers = chiarras.

So now I'm confused :confused: so will someone please un-cun-foos me?:)
 
The blade on my Hanuman looks an awful lot like the one in Sweet's pic. So I was quite surprised to see it listed on the shopping site as a type of ang khola.
 
Originally posted by Ferrous Wheel
Tin Chirra means two spines (or ridges), not two fullers. There will always be one more spine in number than there are fullers. Thus, a blade like the HI Bowie, YCS, Chitlangi, abd Berk Special with two fullers has three ridges or spines, thus making them Tin Chirras. A khuk like the Gelbu Special which has one wide fuller has two ridges, one on either side of the fuller -- yep its a tin chirra.

Keith

P.S. I thinnk we're all "Fuller" it!
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the words tin means 'three' and dui means 'two'. And I believe that chirra means something like 'flattened' or 'hollow', but I'm not certain.
 
dui chirra, tin chirra...


If the actual blade spine is coincident with the "top" of the fuller, is it counted as a chirra?

^ = fuller, / = convex edge | = full width spine,- = thinned spine like AK, _ = flat

|^/ (Gelbu special) versus |_^/ ...both are dui chirra?

Or maybe only counted if the spine is full thickness since from the FAQ, "Ang Khola means “back-valley” or "back-hollow", referring to the depression near the spine ('back') of the blade." A "half fuller" for chirra counting?

Rereading the FAQ is a bit confusing...

Is a hollow ground BAS dui chirra?

What's a hollow-ground AK?

Is Chris's blade I linked a "four"-chirra?

Everybody used to call the Chitlangis dui chirra.

Somehow, I don't think that the kamis consider the current grind they put on hollow enough to add a chirra....Most of the thinner edges I have are sorta convex at the thick part of the bevel, with the hollow fairly close to the edge. I'd think that hollow in the thick part of the bevel, changing to a more convex shape nearing the edge would be what makes for an additional chirra. Wish this would have come up when Pala was still here, so it would be easy to ask. Maybe this is some Eastern thing I can't get my head around.



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"Tin Chirra means two spines (or ridges), not two fullers. There will always be one more spine in number than there are fullers. Thus, a blade like the HI Bowie, YCS, Chitlangi, abd Berk Special with two fullers has three ridges or spines, thus making them Tin Chirras. A khuk like the Gelbu Special which has one wide fuller has two ridges, one on either side of the fuller -- yep its a tin chirra."

Did you mean this instead?

"Dui Chirra means two spines (or ridges), not two fullers. There will always be one more spine in number than there are fullers. Thus, a blade like the HI Bowie, YCS, Chitlangi, abd Berk Special with two fullers has three ridges or spines, thus making them Tin Chirras. A khuk like the Gelbu Special which has one wide fuller has two ridges, one on either side of the fuller -- yep its a Dui chirra.
 
Sweet,
Congrats on your new beauty. I always thought the original from which it was reproduced was a dui chirra, but everything I know about khukuris comes from this forum, so what do I know? In any case, I recommend the full Walosi woodchuck treatment for the handle.
Berk
 
These experts make me realize how little I really know. Dui, tin, char? Is chirra a hollow like Sleepy Hollow or a grove?

Beo, where are you?
 
So............ Is the chiarra a spine or a fuller? Where's John Powell?
 
Since the word 'chirra' seems to mean 'hollow' or 'groove', I believe it refers to the fuller rather than the spine/ridges.

And, if you look at this image:
tinchirraduichirra.jpg


and remember that 'tin' is 'three' and 'dui' is 'two', and count the ridges and fullers on the various types (cp. esp. the 'scalloped' vs. 'non-scalloped'), it would seem to confirm this (that 'chirra' means 'fuller')
 
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