Yet another 307 question...

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After getting my first Buck slip joint, a Charcoal 301, I've decided I'm going to get a 307, as well as a yellow 301 too...

I know they were made by Camillus for Buck, but am wondering if there are any differences between the older 307's and the later production 307's ?

I know the blades on the older ones are flat ground, and the newer knives have Saber ground blades, but other than that, I can't tell any difference just looking at pictures...

I don't want it for collector purposes, it will be going in pocket and getting used.

I searched for awhile, but I don't have the patience to read 30 pages :D, so any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
 
I think all of the 307's were flat ground. I've never seen one hollow or saber ground like more recent 301's, 303's, etc.
I've noticed some of the earlier ones had slightly longer pulls, but they have all looked very similar for the most part unlike the changes seen on the 303 and 301's through the late 80's & thru to the end production of 307's.
 
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338, Yes your correct as I recall a discussion about those being saber ground as well .
You'd be fine getting any of the Camillus 1972-86 models as those are flat ground . Someone will come along tomorrow with more info.. DM
 
Really the only differences are in appearence. The older 307s had model # on the pile side('72-'74), but a camillus 307 is a 307, unless you collect. At which time you buy every 307 model that came out. Camillus made 3 versions I believe, The first had the model # on pile side('72-'74), The second had it on the Blade side tang stamp('74-'98) and the last said BUCK on the shield('85-'87). The also made a Yellow 307 for SMKW. Love this knife though....
 
Excellent. Thanks for the info.

mb, I seem to remember seeing your yellow 307. Actually I think I came across it, when I was searching for info on the 307's earlier today, before I posted this thread...

I would really like to find one in yellow, but I would imagine that one will take a while to locate. :( IIRC, the yellow 307's were made for SMKW's.

I'll just pick up a black one for now, and keep my eyes open for a yellow one to come out of the wood work :D.
 
Just watch the sellers, at a certain auction site, three or four days ago. A person was selling 10 each (one or all), in something called the Buy it Now category. I know a couple of the folks here took advantage of that occurence.

If you want a EDC, whether it comes in a yellow, black or green and white box the Buck warranty is still good. Camillus had the habit of 'over stocking' parts so a 80s,90s or even a last-minute-before-close-down assembly is likely all the same quality and design. Buck parts for repair will sooner than later dry up, so maybe get two, one for backup.

Grab one and cut some twine......300
 
runninmike said:
I've noticed some of the earlier ones had slightly longer pulls,
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I'm not so sure about that. :confused: I only have three examples at this time, but the two oldest are in the original boxes, one is a tan two piece box, the other a black and white one piece box with end flaps. The third came in one of the more modern multi colored boxes exactly the same as are being offered now.

The two in the earlier boxes which are the older of the three knives ( I have to assume) both have pulls that measure 1 3/16" long where the "newer" one has a pull that measures 1 7/16" long. A full 1/4" longer and extends further towards the clip than the others.

Check the pictures in this link, post's #1, 5 and 7.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=687244&highlight=307
 
The seller with 10 for sale, his are in the same box mine is, just after the Camillus auction, they started flooding Ebay with them.

They must have had some serious piles of them stored away at Camillus!
 
I submit there are folks that know more about Buck knives than me. And some that know more about old 300 series.

But here is what I say, you will have to get Joe Houser to issue a decree against me saying I am wrong....before I will change.

We are nit-picking with the finger nic length. You are talking about a production quality knife made on contract by one manuf. for another. Made over a large number of years and even a pile of spare parts were assembled into knives before said company folded. Said company also produced the same 'model' of knife for themselves and others. I have found no correlation between lenght of pull and any particular date or period. I have received no information or copies of production change records from Camillus.
I don't think we have a hope in hades of ever tying the long or short nic to any time period. They both are just "last model" 307 stockmen. If you want to have a long one and a short one to have both so be it. But you can prove for no value increase that one was produced in lesser numbers from the other. I have only eight. The lenght of nic varied from .101 to .108. But it also varies in the 301 just about in the same percentage. Let's relax on this nic length issue and consider this just a item that falls within "production variance".
Remember these knives were made by 'Craftsmen' not computers.....
300Bucks

See Plumbs link for this same debate in the past.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=687244&highlight=307
 
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Plumberdv said:
I'm not so sure about that. :confused: I only have three examples at this time, but the two oldest are in the original boxes, one is a tan two piece box, the other a black and white one piece box with end flaps. The third came in one of the more modern multi colored boxes exactly the same as are being offered now.

The two in the earlier boxes which are the older of the three knives ( I have to assume) both have pulls that measure 1 3/16" long where the "newer" one has a pull that measures 1 7/16" long. A full 1/4" longer and extends further towards the clip than the others.

Check the pictures in this link, post's #1, 5 and 7.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=687244&highlight=307
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Thanks Plumberdv, that was an interesting thread in addition this one.
I'm not so sure now either. I keep getting learned everyday somehow.:D
My example also came in the box with flaps around 1991-93-ish iirc. And it has the shorter looking pull of all the picts I've seen. Looks about like it ends a 1/4" before the swedge begins and it is the exact length of a pull on a 301 I have from about the same. All interesting to me as I kind of favor the knives with long pulls and swedges although I'm warming up to the latest versions of all 300 models a lot lately.
 
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