York: A New Arthur Wright Knife & An Older Clasp Knife

Jack Black

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I had some business in the beautiful ancient City of York yesterday afternoon, and after concluding it early, I was left with an hour or two to go knife hunting. York is a marvellous city to visit, and many do, but this has pushed prices up, and also made it a snobbish town unfortunately. Therefore, I did not expect to find any great bargains and I knew that there would be no junk shops, though certainly there are shops full of junk. I know the centre well from numerous previous visits, so I reckoned I could make full use of a couple of hours there. Unfortunately, I had no sooner set out, than it began to rain heavily, and as this photo taken from my last visit shows, York is a place best avoided in the wet!


The market was lacklustre and disappointing, York has a market almost every day of the year, but a flea-market is apparently beneath its recently-acquired grandeur, so all that exists are a few fruit and veg stalls and suchlike, even the stall that sells cloth caps wasn’t there yesterday.

York does have a great and labyrinthine independent hardware store, which I’ve never been able to get all the way round without running out of money. On my last visit they’d had some Swiss Army knives, and as I’m still after an alox model, I thought it would be worth looking in. On entering the tool section, I was surprised to see a display cabinet holding a range of Arthur Wright knives, which must have been out of stock when I last looked round. I’ve been meaning to buy a Sheffield-made lambsfoot pattern for a while, but quality is so inconsistent, I’ve been reluctant to do so via the internet. While the prices were a little higher here, I would at least have the chance to examine a knife prior to purchasing it, or not.

The display case contained about twenty knives, with half a dozen different patterns. The handles were about half dark wood, with one or two in buffalo horn, and the rest in an unsightly plastic material. They had a lambsfoot left with wooden scales, so I asked one of the two assistants if I could have a look at it. We chatted briefly about the knives, and I referred to the quality control issues as I inspected the knife thoroughly. After telling the man I’d take the knife, I was therefore surprised when he told me he’d get me one out of the back, returning the one I’d just looked at to the display cabinet.


I went and stood by the till, passing the time of day with the older assistant, until his colleague returned with my knife. When I asked if I could have a look at the knife however, both reacted as if I’d insulted them. The older assistant told me that in thirty years at the store, he’d never seen an Arthur Wright knife returned. I don’t doubt what I was told was true, but there could be any number of reasons for it; the well-known preference of the English to make-do (and grumble) rather than to complain; the fact that many of the knives would have been bought by tourists who would not have been in the city for long; the low-expectancy many users have of Sheffield knives; and perhaps the fact that Mr Wright (who still works in his nineties) has better quality control when it comes to a long-established wholesale customer. They may also have been just plain lucky. Certainly, I have seen many knives from this firm, and other Sheffield cutlers, which were badly made, and as always, it’s worth checking. As the assistant eventually conceded, we all sometimes put in a ‘Friday job’ now and again.


Despite these comments, I am extremely impressed with my Arthur Wright knife, and will buy more from the store in York (assuming I am allowed to inspect them first). It’s nothing fancy, just a good, honest old Sheffield pattern, but the fit and finish is great, it locks up like the proverbial bank vault, and even the factory edge was reasonably sharp. So feeling quite pleased with myself, I slipped the knife into my pocket, and headed on.


There is a shop that sells poor-quality reproduction swords and daggers to teenage boys and tourists, along with some overpriced skean dhus. It’s sometimes worth a laugh, but on this occasion an elderly man, who was clearly a regular customer (if irregular demographically) was arguing with an exasperated proprietor about some purchase or other. Since the disgruntled gentleman insisted on conducting the conversation while jammed squarely in the door-frame of the shop entrance, I decided to give it a miss.

Sandwiched between a vegetarian cafe and Ye Olde...something or other, sits an unsavoury militaria/weapons shop, which might be ‘By appointment’ to the armchair psychopaths and chocolate soldiers of northern England. I went in with some reluctance. Inside a rotund couple were perusing a rotten-looking selection of gas-masks. “Have you heard of ‘Preppers’?” the female of the titanic twosome asked the yawning skinhead behind the counter. “We’re prepared for everything”, she went on (and on). I wondered if they’d be prepared for some thearapy, or at least some diet/exercise, but thought it best not to broach the subject in the unlikely event that they turned out to be Mr & Mrs Smith gone to seed. They went on to gawk at air pistols and imitation handguns, while asking stupid questions, of the grunting proprietor, and I eventually managed to negotiate my way round them. My proffered “Excuse me” brought a frightened squeal from the large lady. “I’m with him!” she shrieked, pointing a porcine finger at her fellow ‘Prepper’. She clearly wasn’t too prepared for encounters with politely spoken middle-aged gentlemen, or perhaps it was just something she wasn’t used to.

Among a selection of cheap and nasty ‘offensive weapons’ and fake Nazi daggers, I spotted a clasp knife similar in appearance to the one my grandfather had carried in World War 2 and which I’d beat the hell out of as a boy (with it always bouncing back for more). I was unable to open the blades, but nostalgia led me to hand over the sum requested by the lump behind the counter. There are a few differences between this knife and the one I had as a kid, but it’s solidly built, in Belgium rather than Sheffield. The springs on the knife are no less brutal, and I pity the unwary or unwise who handle one of these knives carelessly. That tin-opener looks like it’s capable of dealing with a tank!




A little further out of the centre, ‘without the city walls’ in fact, I came across a shop filled with contemporary tat and a few bits of old junk, which pretentiously masquerades as an antique shop. There was nothing worth buying, but a camp snob, with a southern English accent, treated me to a lecture on how little money he personally makes from York’s rich tourist industry. In no uncertain terms, he told me, and without seemingly wishing to be offensive: “In the past, only the rich could travel, now anyone can, so we get all sorts of riff-raff coming in.” I couldn’t be bothered to remind him of some of the past visitors to the city, William Wallace or Erik Bloodaxe for example, who might perhaps have given him reason to moan, and been less tolerant of his effete whining. Hopefully his tatty shop will soon close down from lack of custom or be washed away by the cleansing waters of the River Ouse when York next floods.
 
Thank you for the story Jack, much appreciated! It's good to hear you've found a nice A. Wright too. :thumbup:
 
Jack, I had to chuckle out loud at your post!

I'm quite familiar with York myself and recongnise most of the locations....where abouts its the hardware store though??
I love that flat cap stall (although not in as many years, found one that takes my fancy). Shame.
That knife shop on the Shambles, is indeed a joke...and you summed up the surplus store most amusingly.

I was going to comment how its a pity some of the pubs get a dousing when the water is running high....but they are the ones the riff-raff frequent! *scoff!*

;)

About the Wrights, I remember these ones being very hyped up on a UK forum. I eventually bought one direct, a Barlow in buffalo, but I was left disappointed with the fit and finish, especially where the pins stood proud around the relative softer buffalo scales.
I remember how the pull positively wrenched my thumbnail off each time I opened it!

I must start scourring some of my local antique shops....before you start to encroach over my way and have away with all the gems.
 
Jack,

Thanks, once again.


Despite these comments, I am extremely impressed with my Arthur Wright knife, and will buy more from the store in York (assuming I am allowed to inspect them first).

In other words, the knife they brought you from their hidden depths also passed inspection, yes?

I like the design, very much. How long is this knife when closed?

I am gratified to see that it has a Real Lamb Foot blade, and not a pretender to the name.

This also reminds me that, while Case calls its Mini Trapper's blade a wharncliffe, it is in fact a Lamb Foot.

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(But is it a REAL lamb foot?! I wonder. It doesn't SAY.)

There is a shop that sells poor-quality reproduction swords and daggers to teenage boys and tourists, along with some overpriced skean dhus. It’s sometimes worth a laugh, but on this occasion an elderly man, who was clearly a regular customer (if irregular demographically) was arguing with an exasperated proprietor about some purchase or other. Since the disgruntled gentleman insisted on conducting the conversation while jammed squarely in the door-frame of the shop entrance, I decided to give it a miss.

Exactly what any shop owner wants, a "regular" customer's antics preventing potential new money from stopping in. Er, not.

Sandwiched between a vegetarian cafe and Ye Olde...something or other, sits an unsavoury militaria/weapons shop, which might be ‘By appointment’ to the armchair psychopaths and chocolate soldiers of northern England. I went in with some reluctance. Inside a rotund couple were perusing a rotten-looking selection of gas-masks. “Have you heard of ‘Preppers’?” the female of the titanic twosome asked the yawning skinhead behind the counter. “We’re prepared for everything”, she went on (and on). I wondered if they’d be prepared for some thearapy, or at least some diet/exercise, but thought it best not to broach the subject in the unlikely event that they turned out to be Mr & Mrs Smith gone to seed. They went on to gawk at air pistols and imitation handguns, while asking stupid questions, of the grunting proprietor, and I eventually managed to negotiate my way round them. My proffered “Excuse me” brought a frightened squeal from the large lady. “I’m with him!” she shrieked, pointing a porcine finger at her fellow ‘Prepper’. She clearly wasn’t too prepared for encounters with politely spoken middle-aged gentlemen, or perhaps it was just something she wasn’t used to.

Pure comedic gold.

Ahhh, a wonderful read to start my day.

:)

~ P.
 
I've always liked those lambsfoot knives on a swayback frame. Just a solid hardworking and comfortable design all around.
 
An great read, Jack. York is one of my favorite cities. That's a nice Lambsfoot too.
 
Thank you for your very kind comments gentlemen :)

Thank you for the story Jack, much appreciated! It's good to hear you've found a nice A. Wright too. :thumbup:

Yes I'm pleased with it ZF. They just had the basic models, none of the fancier ones.

Jack, I had to chuckle out loud at your post!

I'm quite familiar with York myself and recongnise most of the locations....where abouts its the hardware store though??
I love that flat cap stall (although not in as many years, found one that takes my fancy). Shame.
That knife shop on the Shambles, is indeed a joke...and you summed up the surplus store most amusingly.

I was going to comment how its a pity some of the pubs get a dousing when the water is running high....but they are the ones the riff-raff frequent! *scoff!*

;)

About the Wrights, I remember these ones being very hyped up on a UK forum. I eventually bought one direct, a Barlow in buffalo, but I was left disappointed with the fit and finish, especially where the pins stood proud around the relative softer buffalo scales.
I remember how the pull positively wrenched my thumbnail off each time I opened it!

I must start scourring some of my local antique shops....before you start to encroach over my way and have away with all the gems.

I hope I wasn't too unkind! York is certainly a beautiful city and somewhere I'd reccomend anyone whose able to visit, there's some great museums, some lovely old buildings, and some fantastic pubs :thumbup:

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post up the name of the hardware store, but it's on the street to the left of The Shambles (looking up), next to the pasty shop and one of the York Brewery pubs. It sells all sorts of stuff and has a great tool section. Despite what I was told in there, some Sheffield knives of appalling quality have been sold over the years, so it's a good opportunity to go and buy one over the counter - assuming they'll let you look at it first! They also stock Opinel, Victorinox, and Leatherman - just make sure you leave me a few please! ;)

Jack,

Thanks, once again.



In other words, the knife they brought you from their hidden depths also passed inspection, yes?

I like the design, very much. How long is this knife when closed?

I am gratified to see that it has a Real Lamb Foot blade, and not a pretender to the name.

This also reminds me that, while Case calls its Mini Trapper's blade a wharncliffe, it is in fact a Lamb Foot.

7352645226_74306e1405.jpg


(But is it a REAL lamb foot?! I wonder. It doesn't SAY.)



Exactly what any shop owner wants, a "regular" customer's antics preventing potential new money from stopping in. Er, not.



Pure comedic gold.

Ahhh, a wonderful read to start my day.

:)

~ P.

I'm very pleased with it Pertinux, in fact it 'waddled' its way into my pocket again today! :D The knife is just under 3 1/2 inches closed, with a cutting edge of 2 1/2". None of your fake or pretend Lamb Foots, it's the genuine article! Maybe Case are missing a trick there (that's a lovely knife BTW)! :D

The guy in that last shop was unbelievable. When I asked him about pocket-knives, he told me he had some on display from his "private collection" - there was a small contemperary SAK and an Opinel! As I was leaving some younger people came in and he practically chased them out of the shop, telling them they were wasting his time! Sort of like the Basil Fawlty of junk shops! :D
 
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Jack - thanks for the story. It made me laugh sometime :)

The two knives you got are great looking. The A. Wright seems to be a great pattern of EDC. It´s good to hear, that Sheffield knifemakers are still able to make great and flawless knives.
The belgium clasp knife is a part of history (when 1951 is dating it´s year of making).

Great thread - story and knives :)
 
Jack - thanks for the story. It made me laugh sometime :)

The two knives you got are great looking. The A. Wright seems to be a great pattern of EDC. It´s good to hear, that Sheffield knifemakers are still able to make great and flawless knives.

Thanks Andi. Now and again it seems. I think I was lucky, but I will probably go back for more :)

The belgium clasp knife is a part of history (when 1951 is dating it´s year of making).

Great thread - story and knives :)

That pattern has a lot of history for me, and they are unbelievably solid knives. In practical terms though, I might need to pass it onto a younger man with stronger fingers at some point! :D
 
Thank you Jack, for shedding some light on the Wright ;) I've seen that same knife on "the auction site" and have been intrigued for sure, but it's good to know of possible QC issues. Sounds like a knife I would, like you, need to inspect before purchase. I'll have to visit York on my next trip over the pond.
Cheers!
Jim
 
Glad you found two great knives to purchase, and I enjoyed reading about your trip into York.
 
Thank you Jack, for shedding some light on the Wright ;) I've seen that same knife on "the auction site" and have been intrigued for sure, but it's good to know of possible QC issues. Sounds like a knife I would, like you, need to inspect before purchase. I'll have to visit York on my next trip over the pond.
Cheers!
Jim

Let me know if you do Jim, maybe we can drag Scruffuk over for a pint and show you around :thumbup:

Glad you found two great knives to purchase, and I enjoyed reading about your trip into York.

Thanks a lot Ken :)
 
Good finds there.

The Colasse Belgian knife was discussed in a thread about a year or two ago, A European contributor had got hold of some in rough condition and got them back into shape. They were issued to conscripts in the Belgian Army after the War and are based on the British Army service knife that has, I believe, its origins in the Boer War - certainly pre First War.

I'm glad you got a right Wright because the ones I got were not.... in fact they are right ***** Like you the seller told me that nobody had ever complained in 200 years, expressed astonishment that I wasn't absolutely thrilled with it " My Aussie customer swears by them" Or at them...? :eek: Anyway, it was an internet sale, I returned the first as the quality was dreadful, the replacement was WORSE! Sharp pins sticking out of the Buffalo handles, gaps you could fall through, tip touching the liner making for difficult opening, a blade whose spine is bent! Terrible shrink back/curling of the horn handles (improper curing) It cost as much as my Queen Cutlery D2 Sodbuster, a knife light years ahead in construction and finish and vastly more than an RR whose quality is also unquestionably superior. Such a terrible pity as this is a very good authentic pattern, would feel good in the hand and nice simple elegance. A Lamb Foot with a curved handle or Sheepfoot with Swell End and Barehead are the epitome of a desirable English knife. If they bothered a bit more (a lot more) got some decent machinery then I'm convinced people would pay well for a nicely finished knife.:thumbup:

York is an impressive city indeed, just looks a bit like Venice these days...

All the best, Will
 
Hi Will, I can sympathise with your terrible experience of Wright knives, and I don't think they're at all uncommon with Sheffield knives in general. For me, if the Sheffield cutlers, when first faced with the cheap imports of the Sixties, had stuck to producing a quality product, rather than trying to compete on price things could have been very different. Maybe though, the rot set in even before that, there's been little innovation in the Sheffield cutlery industry for many years, few makers even think about what they're doing. They rarely want to try new steel, and their heat-treatment, such as it is, is generally out of the dark ages. Then the knives are ground so hot the tempering is destroyed in many cases. Worst of all though is the shoddy quality control, and the ethos that bad workmanship is acceptable, part of that is that a lot of the blokes making the knives aren't interested in doing any better. I'm pleased to have got an old Sheffield pattern decently made, but I count myself lucky, and even though I'm a Sheffielder born and bred, I certainly wouldn't commend their cutlery. Quite simply, there are far better knives made elsewhere, and there have been for a very long time.
 
Great post Jack. I have many fond memories of York, beautiful city.

The A Wright knife you bought is similar to the one i purchased 2 or 3 years ago, same rosewood scales and brass bolsters, but mine is a sheepsfoot blade. I've got to ask, how is the blade pull on yours? mine is a bit of a nail breaker, which is a shame as i'd really like to be able to use it more.

I sometimes wonder if hard blades pulls are a trait of English pocket knives. I've a British army clasp knife, similar to the one you've posted, that too has a brutal backspring.
 
Very fair comments indeed Jack, I agree.

Trying to compete on price alone without other developments was fatal. Of course, there are a myriad of reasons: chronic underinvestment, decimation of smaller makers by one or two asset stripping firms, lack of apprenticeships, skill not properly rewarded or encouraged. Poor pay & motivation, lack of vision. Whenever a skill disappears we are all impoverished, the loss of Sheffield is a loss to all knife lovers indeed. Some of the finest and certainly many of the most inspiring pocket-knives ever made came from that city. The knives that still exist from that era are a testament to skill and genius, who wouldn't be overjoyed to have a fine pre WW 1 Sheffield knife in their collection?

Wright apart, I am pleased with the Ablett stag knife I have, very acceptable.

Regards, Will
 
Great post Jack. I have many fond memories of York, beautiful city.

The A Wright knife you bought is similar to the one i purchased 2 or 3 years ago, same rosewood scales and brass bolsters, but mine is a sheepsfoot blade. I've got to ask, how is the blade pull on yours? mine is a bit of a nail breaker, which is a shame as i'd really like to be able to use it more.

I sometimes wonder if hard blades pulls are a trait of English pocket knives. I've a British army clasp knife, similar to the one you've posted, that too has a brutal backspring.

Thanks BM. The blade pull is strong on the Wright knife certainly, but acceptable I think, and it locks up very thoroughly. Now that clasp knife! The blade pull is every bit as brutal as the English ones, I've never come across anything else like these knives, you practically need another tool to open them! I had a larger version as a boy with no can-opener, just a huge sheepsfoot blade, and I think it could have taken all your fingers off quite easily! :eek:

Very fair comments indeed Jack, I agree.

Trying to compete on price alone without other developments was fatal. Of course, there are a myriad of reasons: chronic underinvestment, decimation of smaller makers by one or two asset stripping firms, lack of apprenticeships, skill not properly rewarded or encouraged. Poor pay & motivation, lack of vision. Whenever a skill disappears we are all impoverished, the loss of Sheffield is a loss to all knife lovers indeed. Some of the finest and certainly many of the most inspiring pocket-knives ever made came from that city. The knives that still exist from that era are a testament to skill and genius, who wouldn't be overjoyed to have a fine pre WW 1 Sheffield knife in their collection?

Wright apart, I am pleased with the Ablett stag knife I have, very acceptable.

Regards, Will

You're absolutely right in your analysis I think Will.

I intend to pick up an Ablett knife at some point (though the machine-ground blades may even come from the same factory and the Ablett knives are twice as dear here), but I'll definitely buy one over the counter.

Best wishes

Jack
 
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