You might carry knives to the planes again

I think that pocket knives should be allowed on planes. I think that after 911, a hijacker with a gun would have to shoot everyone before taking over the plane. Perhapese there should be a more strict blade limit, say 3", but I definately think being able to travel with a knife would be a good thing.

I dont really trust knives to not disapear from checked luggage, and I hate going without a knife, even though sometimes I have to (when I dont check luggage).
 
I just hate the bs pc thinking that the way to fight crime or terrorism is to disarm law abiding citizens and turn them into defenseless sheep ready for the slaughter. :mad:
 
I wouldn't bet on it happening though. Common sense aside, some hopolophobic bigwig(s) would start quacking and pressure would be brought to bear. I'm not going to hold my breath, though I would dearly like to be able to carry my Wave or even a SAK on the plane again.
 
t1mpani said:
Who knows, perhaps someone tried. Even without any weapons, sixty passengers could easily subdue six guys with boxcutters. The principle advantage the hijackers had was that the passengers were ignorant of the intent to crash the planes. It would be interesting to see how post 9-11 travelers would react to a similar situation. I'd bet that the terrorists would have to be removed from the plane upon landing in small ziplock bags.
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The previous MO of hijackers was to claim there was a bomb on board the plane. The plane would divert to an airfield far from the reach of American or allied security forces. Negotiations would be conducted, and (hopefully) most of the crew and passengers would be released unharmed. Although the hijackers claimed to threaten suicide, that usually was not part of their larger plan.

This scenario was played out in half a dozen or so hijackings that took place during the twenty years before 9/11/01. Any crew or passenger who considered resisting also had to measure the possibility of being partially responsible for everyone on board's death due to the "bomb" going off.

The suicide bombers have thrown an interesting wrench in their own plans. Since they no longer give passengers and crew the option of a safe passage out of the plane, I think most passengers and crew today would rather risk their lives and kill these bottom feeders than just sit in their seats and have their airplane slammed into another building.
 
It has always been my opinion that as you board the airplane there should be three boxes at the jetway. One box with guns, one with knives and one with clubs. Each passenger would be required to pick one before boarding and to drop it off at the other end after the flight. My thinking is that there are more good people than bad people out there and the minute someone tried something stupid, they wouldn't make it 2 feet! :D

And I am a pilot ;) ;)
 
Oh I agree--and I wasn't being blameful of the passengers who didn't do subdue their attackers. I simply meant that had they known that they were going to die by cooperating, it wouldn't have mattered if they were armed or not, they had plenty of numbers. Which sounds like I'm advocating AGAINST passengers carrying knives, and I'm not. I'm just saying that I think a hijacker today has a much more difficult job in front of him in general. By all means, let's get some pointy things in the hands of the "hostages." I'm all for making it as difficult to force cooperation as possible. :cool:
 
Flying Turtle said:
It has always been my opinion that as you board the airplane there should be three boxes at the jetway. One box with guns, one with knives and one with clubs. Each passenger would be required to pick one before boarding and to drop it off at the other end after the flight. My thinking is that there are more good people than bad people out there and the minute someone tried something stupid, they wouldn't make it 2 feet! :D

And I am a pilot ;) ;)
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LOL!

If you're commercial, I want my family to fly with YOU! :cool:
 
Quite honestly I don't care if they make little knives legal to carry on again. I never go anywhere without my beloved A-F dagger, which will never be a candidate for carry on, and now that people understand the simple math of 100 againsed 5, there is no longer any kind of need to worry about self defence on commercial airplanes.
 
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Always said, "I would rather be on a plane where everyone is armed than just a few with bad intent."
The shoe thing is really annoying. If that one guy had been armed with explosive pants and underwear instead of boom-shoes, would we would all be dropping trousers at the checkpoints? :rolleyes:
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Exactly. Who needs one MORE line to stand in?

Besides, NEED has nothing to do with why I like to dress the same every day, same kind of clothes, same basic equipment. Comfortable, prepared. Finicky! :D
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Yes, man. That's what I am thinking, too. That and also sometimes I just feel more comfortable when I travel with no checked-in baggage.
 
I hope it happens; I kinda doubt it will; time will tell. My thoughts, in a nutshell :D Pessimistic? Yep... well, then, here's to wishing... :thumbup:
 
I fly once or twice a year. I have never NEEDED the o2 mask, seatbelt,life vest or emergency exits,but I sure WANT them.

I have though landed, and found my bags did not land at the same place as me. I like my stuff with me.
 
nelsonmc said:
It's not gonna happen, not that I care. I don't see the need to have a knife on me while flying....
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It's not about need. It's about liberty.
 
I just got back from an Alaska cruise and it took a full day to get home from Vancouver (including a 3 hour delay in Vancouver and a 7 hour layover in San Francisco). It would have been nice to have at least had an SAK with me.
 
nelsonmc said:
It's not gonna happen, not that I care. I don't see the need to have a knife on me while flying. It's not like I'm gonna cut open my bag of peanuts with it and have somebody scream "Terrorist!!". I would rather just pack em in my bag. Would be nice if they allowed them in the carry on, in case they lose my luggage.
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Can't envision ever having to use a blade, even in an emergency? God forbid it happens, but what if someone was tangled up in a seatbelt after an incident like in Canada recently where everyone is okay, but the plane is all banged up and is about to burst into flames. They all made it off of that one, but what if a knife or even a multi-tool could have been necessary to extricate someone.

To put it bluntly, I don't like an attitude like yours, which seems to indicate that if you don't particularly want a given freedom, it is not a freedom that matters.

Besides, what's the difference if they allow them in your carry-on, but not on your person?? :confused:

-Jeffrey
 
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