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Hmmmmm...no one yet eh?
WharCom: Small straight edge easy to sharpen. WAS very popular.
SubClaw: The only folder at the time with a Hawkbill blade in it's size class. Got great reviews from ED users, to SD types.
I was just thinking to attempt to get both models back in production or at least a limited run as they were "different" knives in their size class with excellent blade shapes to use on a daily...
I got folks asking about these two everytime and when I tell them that they were disco'ed, they're bummed...
Ah well, thanks for reading all. Be safe.
WharCom: Small straight edge easy to sharpen. WAS very popular.
SubClaw: The only folder at the time with a Hawkbill blade in it's size class. Got great reviews from ED users, to SD types.
I was just thinking to attempt to get both models back in production or at least a limited run as they were "different" knives in their size class with excellent blade shapes to use on a daily...
I got folks asking about these two everytime and when I tell them that they were disco'ed, they're bummed...
Ah well, thanks for reading all. Be safe.
Titanium handle SubClaw would be pretty cool.
Aloha stabman,
LOL, love the username my friend!!!
Ti handle, eh? What about straight up G10? Would that work for you? It'd work for me...
Mahalo for the input, hope more guys jump in on this...
Have a great evening and be safe!
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Aloha stabman,
LOL, love the username my friend!!!
Ti handle, eh? What about straight up G10? Would that work for you? It'd work for me...
Mahalo for the input, hope more guys jump in on this...
Have a great evening and be safe!
All G-10 would work also.
I'm just a sucker for titanium.
tyr_shadowblade
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Personally, I didn't particularly care for them. I thought the SubClaw might make a decent money clip, and it was good for that. Some guys seemed to like them, but the handle did not feel right, I didn't care for the plastic thumbstud, and the clip wasn't reversible. The guys who like them often customize them by removing the thumbstud and replacing the scales. In a knife that size, I liked the Spyderco Ladybug hawkbill. No pocket clip, and only sold in yellow now, but in my opinion a better knife.
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I still have a subclaw tucked away in an upper vest pocket; it sits nice and flat against my chest, and the wide base keeps it in a stable position. The blade isn't big enough to be a do-everything EDC, but it goes through those damn plastic clamshells like a laser beam and handles anything needing a quick, ripping cut. With it swallowed in my palm and my thumb riding the length of the blade, I have great control and don't have to worry about whipping through too fast. People rarely realize that I am even using it, and I have been asked several times how or why I keep my thumbnail that sharp. I lost my last wharcom when I left it out when I had some workmen come by, quite a bummer as I can't replace it. I found the blade size and shape so useful that I modded a couple of CS Hold Out 3's along similar lines. The only downside in the subcom world is the plastic opening "shelf," as I greatly prefer the thumbstud on the ti model. I would think about getting an upgraded subclaw, but I would definitely get a new wharcom if I could. Upgrading to the thumbstud or maybe even VG-10 like the Decade edition would be greatly appreciated, though I would still go for 440. Just no satin please, I keep going OCD on my Decade edition every time I use it to take the smudges off--it spends more time with the cleaning cloth than my glasses do.
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For some reason I've never really bonded with mine, so a titanium version won't sway me. I like the short blade that can be "hidden" by the thumb, but the ergos of the handles have never worked. I sold my original Subcom. I only bought one Subclaw based on Mercop's review, then wondered, "How in hell am I ever going to sharpen this thing if I use it?" so it sits unused. I did buy three Wharcoms and had one modified with a thumbhole and the other two with Potterma's scales. I liked the straight edge but the point never made sense. I think the only one I'd keep would be my thumbhole version.
For my money I prefer the two Wharts Potterma did for me because the handle fit is superior. I've also got a box stock Trance and a Trance 42, and those I'm keeping as well. I especially like the fact the 42 opens just as fast as the locking version despite the half-stop.
For my money I prefer the two Wharts Potterma did for me because the handle fit is superior. I've also got a box stock Trance and a Trance 42, and those I'm keeping as well. I especially like the fact the 42 opens just as fast as the locking version despite the half-stop.
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All G-10 would work also.
I'm just a sucker for titanium.
LOL...thanks stabman...I like Ti as well. It's very beneficial in my neck o' the woods...er, lava.
Be safe!
Aloha tyr_shadowblade,
Yes, I know a guy who does excellent work pimping out SubCom scales. I believe he was one of the first to "officially" go public with his creations, goes by Potterma.
The SubClaw preceded the Spydie you speak of, and most find the clip a plus for a knife in this size class. If not, they simply remove it. I kinda go by, "better to have and not need it, then need and not have it". Thanks for chiming in!
Be safe
Aloha Bitingsarcasm,
Yes, the stud takes some getting used to...best way to open with the "shelf stud" is to press the corner closest to the handle with an even pressure until open. Some guys try to flick it, and well...best have some bandages handy if you're gonna open it like that!
Ditto on the Wharcom...I think I got one NIB for the coolection, and one user. Had I known they were getting the axe, I'd have tried to get as many as possible.
Thanks a lot for getting a SubCom Decade...it's a very coooooool version of the SubCom, and I am the same way with the two tone blade!!!
Be safe!
Aloha average gimp,
Sharpening the SubClaw is simple with a triangle stone. Yeah, Mercop did a great review on the SubClaw.
Potterma is a great knifebrother of mine, so i am very familiar with his work. He was the first SubCom "pimp" IIRC.
I am happy you like the Trance models. I carry a few versions of the Trance, and still practice with my drone Trance to this day. Potterma does some killer Trance scales also.
Be safe!
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Actually I was going over my collection and given the ergos, my Tuff Lite and Mini Tuff work better at the "magic sharpened thumbnail" trick than the Wharcom does, so I guess I'm unloading the lot of them, including a second Subclaw I didn't recall I had.
FWIW, Daywalker, Mercop gave a great review, which was why I bought at least one of my Subclaws and some of the Invictus Kydex harnesses, but triangle stone or no, my sharpening skills aren't up to curved blades.
FWIW, Daywalker, Mercop gave a great review, which was why I bought at least one of my Subclaws and some of the Invictus Kydex harnesses, but triangle stone or no, my sharpening skills aren't up to curved blades.
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I have tried a number of small blades looking for a good compromise between utility and ease of carry and conceal. My needs are basically opening things, food prep, and not getting thrown in jail if I forget to empty my pockets before taking my son to school. The Mini Tuff blade is too small to easily work an apple, and the handle is surprisingly thick in the pocket. The War Toad has a municipally friendly length and lack of lock, but is actually pretty huge for a biscuit knife. I like the Nano, especially the Decade edition, but it is also a bit noticeable in a pocket. I really like the Dragonfly in H1, high marks in utility and ease of cleanup. The list goes on, but I do keep coming back to subcoms due to the flat bottom and wide, thin handle. Once I pop the clips off, they sit butt down in the pocket without moving around a lot. I have a large hand with long fingers, and most of the small folders I have to close up on quite a bit. The subcoms are wide enough I can just knuckle them against the base of my fingers, a grip I find secure and comfortable. If there is one blade shape I would like to see in the subcom family, it would be Kiridashi style--just saying....
Aloha average gimp,
A buncha people bought SubClaw folders due to Mercop's review, and I am thankful that you were one of them. I'm just sorry the 'Claw didn't work out for you. However...
Learning to sharpen a hawkbill blade is something you should add to your sharpening knowledge. There are just some "things" you cut with a hawksbill and kinda "marvel" at the way it cuts due to it's shape. Maybe your SubClaw can be used for that reason, and since it's a short plain edge, that'll make it all the easier to learn? Just saying.
If not, er...I'll take that SubClaw off your hands!!!Take care and be safe!
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Aloha BitingSarcasm,
+1 on the Nano...Jens' designs are awesome. IIRC, that Nano was the first to sell out in this Decade series. Great guy BTW.
Also agree on the Dragonfly Salt series. I still carry around a yellow handled 1st gen Salt I in PE and man that H1 is just "great stuff"...especially in my neck o' the woods. It's kinda like the Glock of folding knives in regards to low maintenance.
I'm glad the SubCom's are working out for you, and do know of some knife peeps who carry the SubCom minus the clip, loose in pocket. BUT use a small length of para to pull it out for use. As for the Kiradashi style...sir, believe it or not, I tried getting Boker to do this I think it was about 5or 6 years ago, to no avail.
I can try again though. Ya know I even have a cigar cutting SubCom design? Just saying...Be safe and do take care!
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Daywalker, please check your e-mail.
As of the past few days I've come to like the Subcom a lot and now kick my butt for noy buying the Wharcom or Claw when they were around and I had still the money for it (too occupied with fully serrated Spydies at that time LOL )
However I would love to have a regular G10 Subcom with the wharny blade.
Love the Trance maybe evenmore, but they don't sell em over here anymore and it's too costly to let it come over via the US.
Would love one in Satin finish PE
Got a black Trance CE back then from Chad to try out and beat the snot out of it at work.
After months of heavy use the liner lock didn't move a hair and it had only the slightest amount of side to side play, easy corrected by the pivot screw.
Great knife as well :thumbup:
)However I would love to have a regular G10 Subcom with the wharny blade.
Love the Trance maybe evenmore, but they don't sell em over here anymore and it's too costly to let it come over via the US.
Would love one in Satin finish PE
Got a black Trance CE back then from Chad to try out and beat the snot out of it at work.
After months of heavy use the liner lock didn't move a hair and it had only the slightest amount of side to side play, easy corrected by the pivot screw.
Great knife as well :thumbup:
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I saw no need to sharpen it. It was not utility knife for me. It was for exacly what I showed in the video, slashing someone accross the face to get away. My daugher now in college still carries her'e centerlin time to time IWB when going out and about.- George