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Your weirdest woods encounter

kr1

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This was in my top two weirdest encounters and happened this weekend.

My wife and I were going to take a hike to a little pond near our vacation place that we had never gone to before but had heard about. We drove in on a moderately rough, gated (the gate was open) 4 wheel drive road with my Jeep Wrangler. The sign at the begininng of the road said the road was washed out. This road was rough enough that because I had the trailer hitch in, the hitch had actually scraped the ground a few times, in some of the deeper drainage ditches. Enough that I got out and removed it. After around a mile and a half of this we found the trailhead and parked the jeep because the remaining trail looked more like a hiking trail rather than a driving trail, even for the Jeep. I kidded with my wife telling her I could get the jeep in. We started to walk in to what was going to be a very short walk to the pond. On the way in I noticed fresh vehicle tracks and both dog and human prints. Not long after that I heard voices. Expecting other hikers I rounded the corner to see to my amazement an older man sitting around a very large fire and a 20 foot RV. I told my wife to stay there and I went into their camp and started chatting with both the older man (mid 60s), a younger man (mid 30’s) and a young boy (around 10). The first thing the young man did was to tell the kid to get the trout trap out of the water. He complained that there didn’t seem to be any fish in the pond. I made small talk while I tried to figure out what was going on. He could see my wife and said that she could come in and “they didn’t bite”. I eventually did wave my wife in which was stupid because I still didn’t have a good feeling about this. I initially got the impression that this was a family that was down on their luck and not a “camping trip”. We made small talk and I memorized a couple of their names, descriptions, the RV type and plate number and proceeded on our hike. He had suggested a hike that would have had us in the woods for hours. Even though we departed the camp in the opposite direction that we came in from, we took a route that took us right back to our jeep. To our amazement they had broken camp, in minutes, and were trying to get that RV out of there and they didn’t care how they did it or what kind of damage occurred. At one point they had the rear tire hung up on the ground and the younger guy who was guiding told the older man who was driving that if they tore off the tire he would fix it later. There were more issues with getting the RV out of there than just the tire getting hung up. My wife and I got out of there and I struggled with calling the cops. If they were a family down on their luck I felt bad for them. But, I had also thought that it might not be a grandfather, father, son relationship and I figured a welfare check on the child’s wellbeing was required so I did call the police with all the information I had available. They took my name and phone number and said they would call back with what they found out, but never did.

There is more to this story. My wife, mother in law and youngest son decided to go to WalMart about 3 hours later, a 30 minute trip from where we are located and where we found these people. I swear to god as I am walking in the entrance who do I see walking out but the same guy. Carrying what appears to be 3 jugs of antifreeze and some other stuff. As I am reeling from seeing this and telling my wife that I am sure that is the same guy, I leave the store, through the exit, to look and make sure that this is the same guy an sure enough he goes to the RV that I saw in the woods parked in the parking lot. As I am standing there looking at the RV, his kid walks out (my wife told me he walked out the entrance also) with a brand new fishing pole in his hands and heads towards the RV also. During our small talk the middle aged guy who did almost all of the talking had said that if you had a fishing pole you might have better luck getting fish out of the pond. His trout trap apparently wasn’t working very well. Apparently they got out of that area but I don’t know if they were ever interviewed by the police. I didn’t think that the antifreeze was a good sign and both of them walking out of the entrance didn’t strike me as a good omen either. By the time we left WalMart the RV was gone from the parking lot.


KR
 
This was in my top two weirdest encounters and happened this weekend.

My wife and I were going to take a hike to a little pond near our vacation place that we had never gone to before but had heard about. We drove in on a moderately rough, gated (the gate was open) 4 wheel drive road with my Jeep Wrangler. The sign at the begininng of the road said the road was washed out. This road was rough enough that because I had the trailer hitch in, the hitch had actually scraped the ground a few times, in some of the deeper drainage ditches. Enough that I got out and removed it. After around a mile and a half of this we found the trailhead and parked the jeep because the remaining trail looked more like a hiking trail rather than a driving trail, even for the Jeep. I kidded with my wife telling her I could get the jeep in. We started to walk in to what was going to be a very short walk to the pond. On the way in I noticed fresh vehicle tracks and both dog and human prints. Not long after that I heard voices. Expecting other hikers I rounded the corner to see to my amazement an older man sitting around a very large fire and a 20 foot RV. I told my wife to stay there and I went into their camp and started chatting with both the older man (mid 60s), a younger man (mid 30’s) and a young boy (around 10). The first thing the young man did was to tell the kid to get the trout trap out of the water. He complained that there didn’t seem to be any fish in the pond. I made small talk while I tried to figure out what was going on. He could see my wife and said that she could come in and “they didn’t bite”. I eventually did wave my wife in which was stupid because I still didn’t have a good feeling about this. I initially got the impression that this was a family that was down on their luck and not a “camping trip”. We made small talk and I memorized a couple of their names, descriptions, the RV type and plate number and proceeded on our hike. He had suggested a hike that would have had us in the woods for hours. Even though we departed the camp in the opposite direction that we came in from, we took a route that took us right back to our jeep. To our amazement they had broken camp, in minutes, and were trying to get that RV out of there and they didn’t care how they did it or what kind of damage occurred. At one point they had the rear tire hung up on the ground and the younger guy who was guiding told the older man who was driving that if they tore off the tire he would fix it later. There were more issues with getting the RV out of there than just the tire getting hung up. My wife and I got out of there and I struggled with calling the cops. If they were a family down on their luck I felt bad for them. But, I had also thought that it might not be a grandfather, father, son relationship and I figured a welfare check on the child’s wellbeing was required so I did call the police with all the information I had available. They took my name and phone number and said they would call back with what they found out, but never did.

There is more to this story. My wife, mother in law and youngest son decided to go to WalMart about 3 hours later, a 30 minute trip from where we are located and where we found these people. I swear to god as I am walking in the entrance who do I see walking out but the same guy. Carrying what appears to be 3 jugs of antifreeze and some other stuff. As I am reeling from seeing this and telling my wife that I am sure that is the same guy, I leave the store, through the exit, to look and make sure that this is the same guy an sure enough he goes to the RV that I saw in the woods parked in the parking lot. As I am standing there looking at the RV, his kid walks out (my wife told me he walked out the entrance also) with a brand new fishing pole in his hands and heads towards the RV also. During our small talk the middle aged guy who did almost all of the talking had said that if you had a fishing pole you might have better luck getting fish out of the pond. His trout trap apparently wasn’t working very well. Apparently they got out of that area but I don’t know if they were ever interviewed by the police. I didn’t think that the antifreeze was a good sign and both of them walking out of the entrance didn’t strike me as a good omen either. By the time we left WalMart the RV was gone from the parking lot.


KR

Ok, I'll go ahead and say that I dont "get" a lot of that story. What, exactly, gave you the bad feeling? And, what is a bad omen about people walking out of a store? Unless you mean they were stealing things, and trying to avoid the detectors?
 
Not sure I get it either. You mentioned a gate on the road. Was this private property or some area where they may have felt they could get in trouble for having the RV in there? If your "Spidey Sense" was tingling then I would trust it and go. I have done the same on many occassions. I couldn't put my finger on it, but something didn't feel quite right. Better safe than sorry, I say.
As for weird encounters, I had one years ago. I was dating a girl whose friends had a gravel pit on their property. We went there often to go skinny dipping at night. One night we walk in and find a Class A motorhome buried up to the axles in sand by the lake. We started talking to the two guys in the RV and found they were also friends with the owner and a couple of harmless drunks who thought it would be fun to take the RV in there. They got a running start and drove as far as they could until the RV bogged down. When they decided to leave a few days later they had to call a large wrecker to pull them out of the sand. Not something you would expect to see, but just a couple of harmless drunks with more money than sense.
 
The fact that they jumped up and tried to break camp is a pretty clear indicator.

Lotta creepers out there.

Back in the 80's my buddies and I were canoeing a small river for an overnighter. We came around a bend and there was a guy that weighed about 250 lbs, sitting in the back of an aluminum canoe paddling slowly, enjoying nature........... BUCK NAKED.

We didn't even mention it for an hour and never spoke of it again. The horror....The horror....The horror LOL
 
I can tell you my weird-shit-o-meter was pegging in the red. I had enough trouble getting my jeep in there, on the EASY part of the "closed" dirt road. It is gated but the gate was opened and I checked to make sure it was legal to drive my jeep on the dirt road and was told it was. There was nothing inherently illegal about him driving down the dirt road though it was marked as impassable at the entrance by the sign. I owned a 27 foot class C RV years ago and I would have never attempted to get it into that location if I gave even the slightest crap about it. The area was a forest preserve so I don’t believe that they had permission to fish there let alone try to camp in an RV there. I am pretty certain that it explicitly states that those activities are not allowed on the signs they passed on the way in. They had a very large fire going in a six foot fire ring and I don’t believe they put that fire out in their haste to get out of there though I wasn’t sticking around to check. Things that made me suspicious were their haste to get out of there when we came across them. The fact he attempted to make me spend an hour or more walking in the woods on the little hike he suggested and his surprise and apparent dismay at finding out that I was parked only 50 yards away. The utter disregard for whatever they had to do to that RV to get away, all pointed to me to something suspicious.

And, yes, to be frank I think it is likely they stole what they walked out from WalMart with. I understand that I may not have been able to describe the full scope of what I was seeing but suffice it to say I spend a lot of time in the woods as I am sure most here do. I have spent over seven years dealing with accidents, illnesses and in secured crime scenes as an EMT both in the towns and as a Wilderness EMT. When my weird-shit-o-meter goes off I pay attention. Especially when hiking with my wife. If it was just a group of down on their luck shoplifters that would be fine. I was hoping the police could at least get to check them to make sure that nothing more was going on.

KR
 
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I'm never going to forget slogging on southbound on the Appalachian Trail through NE TN. It was a high of 50 degrees that day and non stop rain. I stumbled across a redheaded dude with a bad mullet and camouflage boxers. I missed a step, corrected and nodded at him. He nodded back and I kept on trucking, trying to ignore all the banjo jokes I knew.
 
I can tell you my weird-shit-o-meter was pegging in the red. I had enough trouble getting my jeep in there, on the EASY part of the "closed" dirt road. It is gated but the gate was opened and I checked to make sure it was legal to drive my jeep on the dirt road and was told it was. There was nothing inherently illegal about him driving down the dirt road though it was marked as impassable at the entrance by the sign. I owned a 27 foot class C RV years ago and I would have never attempted to get it into that location if I gave even the slightest crap about it. The area was a forest preserve so I don’t believe that they had permission to fish there let alone try to camp in an RV there. I am pretty certain that it explicitly states that those activities are not allowed on the signs they passed on the way in. They had a very large fire going in a six foot fire ring and I don’t believe they put that fire out in their haste to get out of there though I wasn’t sticking around to check. Things that made me suspicious were their haste to get out of there when we came across them. The fact he attempted to make me spend an hour or more walking in the woods on the little hike he suggested and his surprise at finding out that I was parked only 50 yards away. The utter disregard for whatever they had to do to that RV to get away, all pointed to me to something suspicious.

And, yes, to be frank I think it is likely they stole what they walked out from WalMart with. I understand that I may not have been able to describe the full scope of what I was seeing but suffice it to say I spend a lot of time in the woods as I am sure most here do. I have spent over seven years dealing with accidents, illnesses and in secured crime scenes as an EMT both in the towns and as a Wilderness EMT. When my weird-shit-o-meter goes off I pay attention. Especially when hiking with my wife. If it was just a group of down on their luck shoplifters that would be fine. I was hoping the police could at least get to check them to make sure that nothing more was going on.

KR



Could have been they didn't like the look of YOU and tried to get you to take a long hike so they could leave and find a quiet spot away from the creepy guy who kept asking questions.
By all means, let's get the gov't involved for no apparent reason.
 
I would have thought that encounter strange. Maybe tell the story to the law also.

My spidie senses tingled this spring while mushroom hunting. I was by myself except for a friends dog. Walking along I got an uneasy feeling about the area I was heading into. Didnt hear or see anything.The area looked peaceful and serene. I stopped , stared and listened for a minute or two , nothing strange was observed. The dog was about thirty feet in front of me. She stopped sniffing around, looked in the same direction , her hair stood up and she growled. I quietly retreated out .
 
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While I have the utmost respect for LEO's, this is EXACTLY the type of tip that keeps them busting actual criminals and not giving speeding tickets to soccer moms.

Many a felon has been busted because a concerned citizen saw something that just didn't sit right.

Carl-
 
One of the oddest hings I've encountered was a few years back on woods road I occasionally walk on. At the time there was an extensive search going on for a local young woman who had disappeared with her car. I'm no tracker, but I keep an eye on the tracks on most of the roads I walk to determine whether there is anyone ahead of me, as most of these roads are dead-ends. Anyway, I encountered a place where a vehicle had turned around in the road, gotten stuck in the ditch, broken traction, and ultimately gotten out. There were a set of foot prints that were very widely spaced, and two lines between them as if someone had been holding a body under the arms and dragging it backwards with the heels dragging. It made me curious enough that I contacted the State Police, and they sent a detective down who I met at the beginning of the road, and we hiked in together. The detective photographed the entire area. One of his comments as I showed it to him was "This is just TOO weird", got no argument from me. The girl and her car were found a few days later at the bottom of a river about fifteen miles away, an apparent drunk driving accident. Never did discover the source of the tracks I found.
 
Could have been they didn't like the look of YOU and tried to get you to take a long hike so they could leave and find a quiet spot away from the creepy guy who kept asking questions.
By all means, let's get the gov't involved for no apparent reason.

That's quite possible. What if that guy is telling his son, "Man, I always pay attention to my weird-shit-o-meter and that guy and his wife had mine pegged."

EVERYONE thinks they have this ability. Fine, if it is so bizarre, why in the hell did you go into that camp to begin with? The idea of you and your wife spending quality time with Otis Driftwood from The Devil's Rejects...this appeals to you? :rolleyes:
 
I may be wrong, but IMO if your "Spidy sense" goes off, you should trust it.
Although I'd argue that you leave the area, rather than investigate.

It may be nothing, but it may be that you are picking something up that you don't consciously realize, and it may save your bacon.

Me? I like to bring my dog. I do trust his "doggie sense" more than my "spidy sense".
 
What is your perceived significance of the antifreeze? You say you thought it wasn't a good sign.

Edit to add: I read through your description of everything again and I don't think you've conveyed why so much of the two scenes (woods and Walmart) was suspicious. I do understand the funny feeling thing and I'm not saying you're paranoid. But you haven't conveyed the funny feeling to me.
 
I think you did right calling the cops. Many crimes get solved each year by very small tips that get called in. If your gut instinct says that something ain't right, it probably isn't.
 
I think you did right calling the cops. Many crimes get solved each year by very small tips that get called in. If your gut instinct says that something ain't right, it probably isn't.

Actually, the ratio of 'false positives' to valuable tips is hugely skewed towards the former. But that's no reason not to follow your instincts.

I was hiking in Collingwood on Saturday, and I rounded a bend in the trail and encountered a man with a camera who was wearing shoes.

That's it. Just shoes.

He stopped. I stopped. He turned around and took off. I opted to take a water break before continuing. First time I have seen that on this particular trail, and it was quite unexpected. My dog was perplexed.

All the best,

- Mike
 
You mean that's happened on another trail, before that particular incident?

I have hiked on a few trails that are known naturist areas (a few spots along the BC coastal area, for example). It's no problem when you're expecting it. This was just a bit startling.

The thing that really got me was the time of year. It's the height of the thistle season, and the underbrush is quite sharp. I wouldn't want to catch a thistle bush the wrong way while hiking in the nude. Recipe for disaster.

- Mike
 
This just seems really confusing to me I am confused at why you had a bad feeling. That being said i think you did the right thing. Cops are here for this very reason it is their job! If you feel anything is wrong why not?
 
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