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Your Winter Layering and Clothing System
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Flipe8,
I have spoken to quite a few people who do carry a handgun in the bush, but I don't think it is neccessary. Others may, and that is fine.
Do they carry them up here? Nope. There are people with handguns around, but they generally abide by the law, or don't spend much time in the woods.
It is too common to run into RCMP or DFO officers out here, and guns would be seized, perhaps more frequently than down in Alberta.
Which brings up the other obvious fact. Everyone knows who the cops are, so when they see me or other members out in the sticks, the handguns don't come out... Lest they wind up handgun-less!
(I don't make the laws, just enforce them...
)
Skammer, there are a few snowmobile accessory stores around that sell a variety of synthetic balaclavas, and some are very comfy to wear. They offer a soft brushed lining that does not get itchy, as some of the cheaper ones can. Plus some are actually shaped like a head, as aopposed to a tube stitched closed at one end. I often order from Royal Distributors, I think they are in Ontario. They have a website but it's not very good. The paper catalog is much better.
I use my jacket hood and/or my muskrat hat, depending on the temp, but if I'm on the snowmobile, or out for a long time, the balaclava is always in my pocket...
The hood on a Canada Goose parka (coyote fur edge) is usually enough without the balaclava, but it doesn't hurt to be extra careful. I tried a neoprene mask a few years back and found it too uncomfortable.
A small note regarding hydration, make sure you keep the bottle upside down, so the cap/lid doesn't freeze.
Yeah, I gotta agree. Frostbite sucks. I have been lucky to avoid any real serious problems, but even minor frostbite hurts.
Many of the local Dene, Gwich'in, and Inuvialuit people go out on the land with a one piece Carhardt suit, work gloves and beaver mitts, Sorels, and a fur hat on their head. Many end up with silver dollar sized frostbite marks on their cheeks, and it just does not seem to bother them. They are a hell of a lot tougher than me. It's not unusual (to be loved by anyone) to see people walking around with big scabs on their cheek bones!!
Jim
I have spoken to quite a few people who do carry a handgun in the bush, but I don't think it is neccessary. Others may, and that is fine.
Do they carry them up here? Nope. There are people with handguns around, but they generally abide by the law, or don't spend much time in the woods.
It is too common to run into RCMP or DFO officers out here, and guns would be seized, perhaps more frequently than down in Alberta.
Which brings up the other obvious fact. Everyone knows who the cops are, so when they see me or other members out in the sticks, the handguns don't come out... Lest they wind up handgun-less!
(I don't make the laws, just enforce them...
)Skammer, there are a few snowmobile accessory stores around that sell a variety of synthetic balaclavas, and some are very comfy to wear. They offer a soft brushed lining that does not get itchy, as some of the cheaper ones can. Plus some are actually shaped like a head, as aopposed to a tube stitched closed at one end. I often order from Royal Distributors, I think they are in Ontario. They have a website but it's not very good. The paper catalog is much better.
I use my jacket hood and/or my muskrat hat, depending on the temp, but if I'm on the snowmobile, or out for a long time, the balaclava is always in my pocket...
The hood on a Canada Goose parka (coyote fur edge) is usually enough without the balaclava, but it doesn't hurt to be extra careful. I tried a neoprene mask a few years back and found it too uncomfortable.
A small note regarding hydration, make sure you keep the bottle upside down, so the cap/lid doesn't freeze.
Yeah, I gotta agree. Frostbite sucks. I have been lucky to avoid any real serious problems, but even minor frostbite hurts.
Many of the local Dene, Gwich'in, and Inuvialuit people go out on the land with a one piece Carhardt suit, work gloves and beaver mitts, Sorels, and a fur hat on their head. Many end up with silver dollar sized frostbite marks on their cheeks, and it just does not seem to bother them. They are a hell of a lot tougher than me. It's not unusual (to be loved by anyone) to see people walking around with big scabs on their cheek bones!!
Jim
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Jim,
I didn't mean to sound like he was carrying for kicks if that's how it came across; he said a lot of people carried for self defense against big animals as they were more accessible. That may or may not be true. I remember seeing pics of him and his buddies fishing pike on their ATVs and seeing the holsters in some of the shots. I guess it surprised me at the time, but he made it sound like it was quite common. You far from Hay River? I have a cousin who works with Natural Resources(or something like that) there. I know its' big country up there, but that's about the only tie to it I have.
I didn't mean to sound like he was carrying for kicks if that's how it came across; he said a lot of people carried for self defense against big animals as they were more accessible. That may or may not be true. I remember seeing pics of him and his buddies fishing pike on their ATVs and seeing the holsters in some of the shots. I guess it surprised me at the time, but he made it sound like it was quite common. You far from Hay River? I have a cousin who works with Natural Resources(or something like that) there. I know its' big country up there, but that's about the only tie to it I have.
No worries, Flipe8, that is not what I thought at all. I don't want to carry a handgun in the bush if I have a rifle, but just cause I don't, doesn't mean others should not. I wish the gun laws were different, and we could legally opt to carry handguns for self defence in the woods. Shoot, I wish we could hunt with 'em.
Most of the LEO's that I know would rather have gun legislation similar to parts of the U.S.
Some say, "Disarming the law-abiding citizen arms the criminal", but that is another discussion all together....
I'm on the other end of the territory from Hay River, but do know a few people down there. Hope to make my way down to that area in the summer.
Jim
Most of the LEO's that I know would rather have gun legislation similar to parts of the U.S.
Some say, "Disarming the law-abiding citizen arms the criminal", but that is another discussion all together....
I'm on the other end of the territory from Hay River, but do know a few people down there. Hope to make my way down to that area in the summer.
Jim
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skammer said:
This depends a lot on location, in Labrador, inland, -30 C is very different from -30 C here where I live right next to the ocean as in you could almost throw a rock and hit it. -30 C here (still air) is what I would call cold because I can't do anything barehanded for any length of time and really would want a coat and a hat.
A lot depends on the person, your body will adapt to cold as it will anything else, I don't mind low temperatures much, and my layering system simply consists of a coat (not overly particular about type) or heavy wool shirt. Heat kills me though. I spent some time in the states a few years back and it went up to over 30C in the middle of the day and I was outside and not expecting it, not fun.
I asked one of the locals was it supposed to get hot, he said something like not really so I for some reason assumed he meant the same thing I would. One of my friends lives in the tropics and laughed when I told it to him as he used to do physical labor in +40C. He used to find it freezing here when I found it warm. He was wearing a coat when locals had shorts and t-shirts.
It is also hell to dry and will absorb water, just slowly, synthetics can repell it. But it still takes a long time to get wool wet all the way through, I have taken off a wool shirt, put in on wet damp snow and kneeled on it for a half an hour and then taken it back up and put it on and it still isn't wet all the way through.
-Cliff