Zero Tolerance Current/Upcoming/Discontinued Models

There’s at least one contagious disease that has been going on in the knife industry and has accelerated further the past few years.

It’s all about setting yourself apart from the crowd.

I’m in no way spotlighting ZT or any other knife maker/manufacturer in particular.

This disease has resulted in some incredulous and impractical designs.
 
I doubt it, makes too much sense. They will however keep making ugly knives like the 0850 & 0055. The only knife from their 2017 lineup that interested me was the 0801ti, and I didnt purchase one. Its hard to believe that Sinkevich can design the 0450, 0452 & 0454 which are beautiful and then be partly responsible for the 0850 monstrosity. Just give me a 0566cfti already dammit!

Within the ZT line up I seem to gravitate towards the Hinderer designs. Oh, I did have a Ken Onion, 0301 at one point but I sold it. The only ZT's I have now are the 0550, 0556, 0560, 0561, and 0562 which is becoming my favorite ZT. The other ZT's so far don't really interest me, but I am sure they are good knives.
 
The 0055 deploys like it is assisted, carry’s great because of its sleek rounded lines and no protruding flipper, good steel s35vn, super light even without CF scales, great hand ergos, nice balance and with stunning looks. It weighs just 7 ounces more than the hi tech 0350 but $100 less.
I own 18 models of ZTs and this is one of my favorite.

Agree to disagree I suppose. Only 3 ZT models have ever been intriguing to me, and this was far from one. S.L.T. is the only interesting thing on that knife imo, otherwise Reate did it better with the K-3 tanto, and there are loads of better knives around the same price point and cheaper.
 
MOAR ZEMERSONS! Seriously, I know I've said it before, and I really do like the low cost Kemersons, but if ZT wants my money they need to put out some more of those. I also have to confess I REALLY don't love the 3.6" blade length they chose on the two they've done. Go 3.5 and you'll be legal a lot more places and barely lose any usable cutting edge or go to 4" for a nice, big folder. Heck, I'd even like to see one with a 3" blade for an Emerson that's legal almost everywhere in the US. A ZT take on the stubby would absolutely get my money.
 
Agree to disagree I suppose. Only 3 ZT models have ever been intriguing to me, and this was far from one. S.L.T. is the only interesting thing on that knife imo, otherwise Reate did it better with the K-3 tanto, and there are loads of better knives around the same price point and cheaper.
Id like a couple of examples of something cheaper with the same performance.
The Reate is twice the price ($398), not as good blade steel, .65oz heavier and made in China.

The 0055 has milled out titanium scales, compound blade, very light @ 5oz with a 3.75 inch blade, S35VN steel, sleek looks and a patented retractable flipper that works flawlessly. You can buy them all day long for around $200.
Did I mention - Made in USA.
This might not be very important to a lot of Americans but it is to me.
 
Well, for most of the rest of the world "made in the usa " is not exactly an indication for quality anyways...
The best zt I had so far was the 0562, but I still hope for more non flipper edc... but then I might as well buy a different brand for that.
 
Well, for most of the rest of the world "made in the usa " is not exactly an indication for quality anyways...
The best zt I had so far was the 0562, but I still hope for more non flipper edc... but then I might as well buy a different brand for that.
Most of the world puts up barriers on our exports, example Germany taxes the hell on imported US cars and trucks but the US imposes near squat import tariffs on beemers, Mercedes etc.
US computer software, autos and trucks, earth moving machinery, tool and die, Aerospace and military hardware, our own cottage AR-15 industry etc. are second to no one.
The Chevy Corvette blows away foreign competition when you compare performance/dollar.

BTW, I didn’t say we are the “best” in my prior post but we do have a free and well paid work force that I believe can compete with anyone except China. China that manipulates its currency, exploits its people for dirt cheap labor, pollutes its environment, dictates to its manufacturing base what to flood the market with in order destroy foreign industries one at a time like our steel and aluminum manufacturing.

Some very good US made non-flippers would be the Spyderco Military-ParaMilitary. Spydercos flipper models, made overseas, are having issues with their bearing systems. Gavko has some excellent non flippers too.
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Id like a couple of examples of something cheaper with the same performance.
The Reate is twice the price ($398), not as good blade steel, .65oz heavier and made in China.

The 0055 has milled out titanium scales, compound blade, very light @ 5oz with a 3.75 inch blade, S35VN steel, sleek looks and a patented retractable flipper that works flawlessly. You can buy them all day long for around $200.
Did I mention - Made in USA.
This might not be very important to a lot of Americans but it is to me.
Uh, the K-3 uses CTS-204P, an M390 equivalent. If you prefer S35VN, that's all good, but saying that 204P isn't as good is simply nonsense.
 
Id like a couple of examples of something cheaper with the same performance.
The Reate is twice the price ($398), not as good blade steel, .65oz heavier and made in China.

The 0055 has milled out titanium scales, compound blade, very light @ 5oz with a 3.75 inch blade, S35VN steel, sleek looks and a patented retractable flipper that works flawlessly. You can buy them all day long for around $200.
Did I mention - Made in USA.
This might not be very important to a lot of Americans but it is to me.

Starting from the top, something cheaper with the same performance? I could list hundreds, if not thousands of knives with better performance. Some of my better "performing" knives are my cheaper ones, i.e. a spyderco delica, any victorinox, traditionals, etc. What you have there is pocket jewelry, which if you saw my collection, I'm all for fancy expensive well made stuff even if it doesn't technically perform better than a $30 knife, so performance is a moot and ridiculous point when talking about this knife.

The K-3 has milled out titanium scales, a compound blade, and is light enough at 5.4 oz with a 3.75" blade, CTS-204p steel (which is better than S35VN), better looks, and a non-gimmecky flipper that works flawlessly and doesn't have a spring inside that could potentially break. You can buy them all day long for $325.
Did I mention - An in house Reate design that uses a Todd Begg's phenomenal ceramic ball pocket clip, and comes sharper and thinner behind the edge than any ZT.

Also, your knife wasn't designed by an American, it was designed by a Brazilian. So that makes it 'Merican? What about all of the famous ACTUALLY AMERICAN designers that have their knives made in Italy, Taiwan, and China, where profits come back to said designer in, by golly, AMERICA. Not to mention ZT is part of a larger company that produces mass amounts of knives in China, and Japan.

The Chevy Corvette blows away foreign competition when you compare performance/dollar

Oh geez, here we go. A car that should only be used as a play toy or a track car being compared to actual commuter cars and comfort oriented cars. I'd take a BMW, Benz, Audi, etc. over a Corvette anyday of the week, simply for the comfort and luxury it provides. Or in my case, a Cadillac, best of both worlds. You're starting to sound like a 14 year old child, or someone in mid-life crisis mode.

BTW, I didn’t say we are the “best” in my prior post but we do have a free and well paid work force that I believe can compete with anyone except China. China that manipulates its currency, exploits its people for dirt cheap labor, pollutes its environment, dictates to its manufacturing base what to flood the market with in order destroy foreign industries one at a time like our steel and aluminum manufacturing.

We DO NOT have a well paid work force, I'm not sure what rock you've been living under, but the majority of America is starting to slip into poverty. If that's well paid to you, then I've got bad news for you as to what middle class Europeans are making. But that's a different topic entirely, and as the car thing, I'm not sure how this fits into a discussion over higher end LUXURY items. It's also amusing that you're talking about pollution after talking about a Corvette. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

Some very good US made non-flippers would be the Spyderco Military-ParaMilitary. Spydercos flipper models, made overseas, are having issues with their bearing systems. Gavko has some excellent non flippers too.
Thanks

Sorry to burst your bubble once again, but Spyderco doesn't make any flippers in the USA, they're ALL made overseas, so the issue is Spyderco's flipper and bearing designs, not with the factories that make what Spyderco laid out for them. Learn where to place blame, and stop being an ultracrepidarian. Thanks.
 
Hey Guys, if this has been covered, I apologize, but, anybody know the status, or what's in the air, with regards to the 0850?

Also, for knives like the ZT0562ORBLK, how do you figure out how many were made? I think I've read 500, but does that sound right, to you? Maybe I didn't even read 500, and it's a false memory. Hmm, now I'm scratching my head, lol. If anybody knows, how do orange knives do, with collectors?

Lastly, does ZT make anything better than the 0450? I mean, isn't it just about perfect, for size, and ergonomics? Blade geometry's perfect, wouldn't you say? I'm teasing, of course! The 0450's one of my favorite carry knives, but that's me. :p
 
Added three new ZT folders to the upcoming list in post #1. Click on model numbers to link to the ZT website for additional information.

ZT 2018 Catalog: https://zt.kaiusaltd.com/pdfs/catalogs/ZT_2018_Catalog.pdf

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Was hoping for some smaller ZTs, but an RJ Martin production ZT is great news.

0609 will be awesome with a surprisingly low weight. Looking forward to other color options eventually. Not a huge fan of the new clip.

0393 probably isn't the production 0392 people were hoping for, but glad it's happening. Seems like the 0609 would have been a better candidate for the overlay?

0460 has great ergos and I'm sure the 0462 will as well, though I'm not sure about my thumb on that swedge.

In the end I didn't get anything on my "wish list", but I'll be happy to buy a 0609 when they drop.

Thank you RamZar!
 
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