ZT 0566 - Assisted open mechanism failure

Kowan said:
That's the video I linked to yesterday in my post above.
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Yeah I noticed that it was the same. Thanks for posting that vid though. It's helpful for anyone who wants to de-assist their 0566, and anyone with blade centering issues. Now we just need to figure out how to keep that smoothness and ease of use with the torsion bar still assisting the blade.
 
Maybe in another knife, but I see no advantage to the assist on the 0566.
In fact, IMO it's a much better knife as a manual.
 
What I think djdawg is trying to figure out, and I would like to know myself actually, is how to smooth out the action and make the blade easier to flip WITH the torsion bar assisting it
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EXACTLY ......... I have two 0566 and one is butter smooth assisted ............ the other is stiff as all get out.
Maybe changeing the bar will help ............I,ll have to write ZT and ask.
 
It does make a big difference if you turn the pivot just a tiny tiny bit. Makes it much smoother and faster.
 
I pulled the torsion bar out of the sticky one and tried it without the bar ..........I found it to be sluggish
I,d rather have the knife the way it was intended too ............. for me anyway.
To each his own.
 
testosterone325 said:
Money isn't the issue for the most part. My wife and I both have excellent incomes, my problem is that I'm just super cheap. I always feel guilty whenever I get myself something. I've just always been that way. So I usually sell off a knife or two whenever I want a new one.
But after starting this thread and reading through some of the responses, I've been giving this a lot of thought. I'm gonna pull the trigger and get the XM-18. Some good points have been made such as being able to resell it for at least what I paid. And at work it would be awesome. It's a tool I would use daily so I might as well enjoy it. Currently for work I use a Spyderco Assist and it's great especially since I cut a lot of rope and seat belts etc, which is why I never spent crazy amounts on other knives cause they were always for EDC use off the job. But my Assist is simply a tool has no value to me. And it's a pain to sharpen. A really good quality plain edge would work just as well so I've decided that I will get the XM. It will be useful and I'll love it.
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You can't take it with you.
 
testosterone I seen in one of your post's you just oil to lube your knife,I have tried a few different oil's and all with the same result,I found that the oil's either dry up or get squeezed out and run away,even the Benchmade Blue Lube wasn't that great,it did make everything smooth but no smoother then the then the Super Lube Grease.

I was told y another member on this board to try Super Lube Grease and it works really well and won't get washed off from water or dry up and it is not a real sticky kind of grease that will slow that action of your knife down and it will not come off either unless washed off with some soap and water.

Just give Home Hardware a call and they can get it even if they don't stock it and the warehouse has 25 tubes right now from what my store told me because they were out of stock and had to check,here's the item number Item 8640-063

Also if you want a spare Torsion bar just email me at wadenorton2008@yahoo.ca and I will mail you one for free,mine broke as well and ZT sent me 6 of them.

The Torsion bars can brake really fast or last for 5 year's from the guy at ZT told me you either get a good one or a bad.


http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/i...z-Lube-Grease/_/N-1z140nr/Ne-ntc74/R-I8640063
 
From what I understand, you can go to the Hinderer web site and they will sell directly to you since you are a firefighter. There is proof of job requirements to send in in order to get the knife at cost. You may want to consider a wharncliff blade for the line of work you're in. It will be the only knife you'll ever need and out last any other knife you'll use. It is a name brand tool and not a bargain tool, so like all other name brand tools, you have to pay what for the quality. I'm not knocking ZT at all, I have 550's and 560's, for my line of work they're fine.
 
wade7575 said:
testosterone I seen in one of your post's you just oil to lube your knife,I have tried a few different oil's and all with the same result,I found that the oil's either dry up or get squeezed out and run away,even the Benchmade Blue Lube wasn't that great,it did make everything smooth but no smoother then the then the Super Lube Grease.

I was told y another member on this board to try Super Lube Grease and it works really well and won't get washed off from water or dry up and it is not a real sticky kind of grease that will slow that action of your knife down and it will not come off either unless washed off with some soap and water.

Just give Home Hardware a call and they can get it even if they don't stock it and the warehouse has 25 tubes right now from what my store told me because they were out of stock and had to check,here's the item number Item 8640-063

Also if you want a spare Torsion bar just email me at wadenorton2008@yahoo.ca and I will mail you one for free,mine broke as well and ZT sent me 6 of them.

The Torsion bars can brake really fast or last for 5 year's from the guy at ZT told me you either get a good one or a bad.


http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/i...z-Lube-Grease/_/N-1z140nr/Ne-ntc74/R-I8640063
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The Super Lube Grease you are talking about sounds a lot like the M-Pro 7 gun oil I use. Maybe not the form it comes in but the characteristics of it.

There was a point in time where I was on the hunt for a good lube/grease for my knife pivots. So I tried I tried a few different product types. I really didn't like any of them. Teflon provided no lubricity and made my blades stick, greases worked well but attracted a lot of dirt/dust/lint etc, and you're right the oils would run and cause a mess. So I started doing some research online and Tuf-Glide, BM Blue Lube, and CRK grease were popular and I was willing to try them. I don't remember where online but someone was raving about M-Pro 7 and I was sold on it. Better yet, it was available at my local gun shop while the others were only online. Tried it for the first time and it was literally miraculous. It has characteristics of all 3 products types of products I tried originally. It has the water/dirt repelling characteristics of Teflon, the lubricity and staying power of grease, and the easy application of oil. It is an oil, but it's thick and doesn't run. Well it does make a bit of a mess if you apply it without taking your knife apart, but clean up any excess with a q-tip and it never runs down from the pivot after that. And it never dries up. I've taken apart knives that I lubed using the M-Pro 7 and found the pivots still nicely coated with the oil, even after a few months. I call it miraculous because I first tried it out a Paramilitary 2 that suffered from terrible blade play. The only way I could get rid of it was to tighten the pivot to the point where the blade was unable to be flicked open. After a couple drops of the oil, the blade would fling open as if the pivot was loose.

Of course I'm always opened to try new products though. If there's something superior available then I'm down to try it. So maybe the next time I'm around store I'll check it out.

As for the torsion bar, I already requested one from the ZT warranty department. Theres a section where you check off from a list whatever parts/hardware you need so I requested the torsion bar, a new pocket clip for spare, and screws. But thank you very much for the offer.
 
Ajack60 said:
From what I understand, you can go to the Hinderer web site and they will sell directly to you since you are a firefighter. There is proof of job requirements to send in in order to get the knife at cost. You may want to consider a wharncliff blade for the line of work you're in. It will be the only knife you'll ever need and out last any other knife you'll use. It is a name brand tool and not a bargain tool, so like all other name brand tools, you have to pay what for the quality. I'm not knocking ZT at all, I have 550's and 560's, for my line of work they're fine.
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Yeah I am planning to order directly from Hinderer. I can provide whatever proof they need to confirm my employment status or whatever. Money is not so much the issue for me, it's just that I'm really cheap. My wife even offered to buy it for me a few times, but I just felt really guilty that she would have to spend so much on a knife for me. But after reading through all the posts here, I realize that it's worth it, and I will definitely be getting myself one.

I didn't know they were still available with a wharncliff blade. I was just on the Hinderer site and for the XM-18 it shows you have the option of either a 3" or 3.5" slicer or spanto grind with either 20CV, XHP, or S35VN steel. But if the wharnie is available I would definitely consider it. I'm already used to a straight edge since I carry a Spyderco Assist for work. Its gonna be a tough choice since I like all 3 grinds. I was planning on getting a 3.5" spanto in 20CV. I like the fact that it has both a good slicing edge with the durable tip of a tanto for piercing and prying because that could be useful in my line of work. I mean we have tools for pretty much every situation but sometimes you need to improvise when time is not on your side. Luckily that doesn't happen often.
 
testosterone325 said:
Is yours assisted or did you remove the torsion bar? My 0566 without the torsion bar is also very smooth. My blade was already centred though, and when the torsion bar broke, it was not very smooth. But after removing the bar, I cleaned out all the grease, dust etc and applied some M-Pro7 gun oil to the pivot area an reassembled the knife. I adjusted the pivot screw just to the point where there was no blade play. After this the action was super smooth and was my blade was still centered.

What I think djdawg is trying to figure out, and I would like to know myself actually, is how to smooth out the action and make the blade easier to flip WITH the torsion bar assisting it. When my new torsion bar arrives, I would like try my 0566 assisted again. But there's no way in hell I'm gonna keep the assisted action if it's as stiff as when I first got the knife. It was brutally hard and my fingers were so sore.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Mine is de-assisted but it seemed smooth with the torsion bar. I believe it will be hard on the fingers just because you have to over come the spring. I don't think there is really any way to get around that :( I do believe the 0566 is best as a manual
 
testosterone the Super Lube Grease is fairly thin from what I have found and seems to stay in place and is about as slick as all the oils I have tried,it's a clear grease that seems to work fairly well and allows my knifes to flip open with about the same speed as oil.
 
SpringAssisted said:
Mine is de-assisted but it seemed smooth with the torsion bar. I believe it will be hard on the fingers just because you have to over come the spring. I don't think there is really any way to get around that :( I do believe the 0566 is best as a manual
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I'm definitely enjoying my 0566 as a manual right now. I'm in no rush to receive a new torsion bar. Imagine the 0566 with the KVT ball bearing pivot! That would be wicked!
 
wade7575 said:
My ZT0560 with the KVT Bearing system works really well and is super smooth.
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Yeah when I was in the store on the day I bought my 0566, I played around with a 0560 and the deployment was incredible. By far the smoothest pivot I've ever seen. I honestly never thought it was possible to make a knife pivot that slick and smooth. The blade just rolled right out, literally. However it was just too big for my liking. That's why I ended up with the 0566. I have to admit though, my 0566 is pretty darn good with the torsion bar removed. But the KVT ball bearing system is just on a whole other level.
 
wade7575 said:
testosterone the Super Lube Grease is fairly thin from what I have found and seems to stay in place and is about as slick as all the oils I have tried,it's a clear grease that seems to work fairly well and allows my knifes to flip open with about the same speed as oil.
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You've definitely got me interested! I'm gonna grab some for sure the next time I'm around the hardware store. Sometimes I think I'm crazy for caring so much about what I use on my knife pivots. But I don't know...it just really makes all the difference!
 
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testosterone325 I was wondering if you a chance to pick up some Super Lube yet,I just got done lubing up a few knifes and man what a difference over any grease I have tried.
The thing I like best about Super Lube is that it is thin and does not come off very easy unless you wipe it off.
 
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