ZT 0801 VS Domino flipping smoothness.

Domino gets smoother the more you flip it so stay with it plus a drop of lube (like Nano-Lube 10W or Tuf-Glide with syringe applicator) on the detent ball which seems to drag. Southard and ZT 0801 are good to go from day one. Personally, 0801 has the best flipper action of all three and in the ZT line only bested by 0777 but even ZT can make subpar flippers as in the 0560/0561 with weak detents.
 
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As much as I love Spyderco, nobody can hold a candle to Kai/Kershaw/ZT when it comes to a good flipper. I have a ZT 0566 in my pocket right now and it's outstanding. If I want a flipper I go to Kai/Kershaw/ZT.
 
KoryD said:
Great information everyone thanks. If I wanted to "lube" the domino to smooth it out a bit where would you suggest I lube it and what lube would everyone suggest?
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IMHO the two best lubricants for knives are Quicken CLP and Nano Oil. The two are very similar but quicken will be quick to point out that their formulation is the original and superior product. Both use microscopic diamond particles to increase the lubricity but if you look at the data quicken it makes the claim that their particles are spherical and almost act as a microscopic bearing itself. Magnification of the st claire product shows very jagged and sharp particles. I have used both products and I can say that I have not been able to find a difference between them. And it also bears mentioning that the quicken CLP is ridiculously expensive. The St claire oil isnt cheap either but you get 4 times as much as the quicken for nearly half the price. For me these are the only 2 lubes i have used that dont require continuous reapplication.


As for the application I would do 1 drop on each side of the pivot and then put a drop in the detent hole of the blade.
 
A few drop of the dry Teflon bike chain lube works wonders for knives with bearing. Don't use too much though. And don't use it on non bearing knives. The stuff just keeps working and working. Put some on my 0560 when I got and it is still smooth as glass with much use. The best thing about it is it doesn't attract dust and dirt, like oil will.
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I had an 801 and it flipped very smoothly. My Domino feels a little more gritty. I sold the 801 because it's relatively thick behind the edge and when applying force to cut heavy cardboard or wood, the lockbar moved over further and became stuck, requiring added pressure to disengage. No such problem with the Domino. I also noticed this phenomenon with the Kershaw Storm II.
 
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I had an 801 and it flipped very smoothly. My Domino feels a little more gritty. I sold the 801 because it's relatively thick behind the edge and when applying force to cut heavy cardboard or wood, the lockbar moved over further and became stuck, requiring added pressure to disengage. No such problem with the Domino. I also noticed this phenomenon with the Kershaw Storm II.
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I noticed that too with my 0801. It doesn't bother me because you can re-flip it and it locks up early. Also, the knife is stuck more open so at least it is safe. I would like to understand why/how it can do this yet still lockup early and rock solid. Not getting rid of mine though. I put the clip on the other side and carry it in my left pocket as a second knife when I carry it typically.
 
I occasionally experience the same phenomenon with my ZT 0801, also - mostly when performing a high-torquing cut (zip tie, line, etc.).

I am quite happy to be able to weigh in on this comparison, now, for I just got my Spyderco Domino in the mail yesterday! I have wanted one for the aesthetics (and every Spyderco quality) since I got my ZT 0801. I will concur with some of the earlier posts - the 0801 is absolutely glassy smooth any way one flips it. It's to the point with mine that I have a hard time performing an incomplete flip. The Domino, on the other hand, is also extremely smooth, but can be incompletely flipped if done incorrectly. The stronger detent on the 0801 seems to prevent one from an incorrect flip, whereas the Domino works best with a light switch form of flip. As far as the actual feeling of smoothness, and this is complete speculation, it almost feels as if the bearing washers in the 0801 are free to rotate around as the blade rotates, and the bearing washers in the Domino seem to stay in place as the blade rotates open, if that description makes much sense, that is. Ultimately, I absolutely love both knives for what they each are.
 
I am going to send my 801 in for service soon. The lockup is at about 60%, easily pushed over to 100%, and the detent is loose (I can rattle the knife when closed). Flips awesomely, but this is something that I would think QC should have caught. No real issue, just very annoying.
 
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