ZT0801 vs Olamic Wayfarer 247

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Hello,

I am starting to get some interest in the olamic wayfarer 247.
The plain all blackwash 247 is growing on me :)
So far my ZT0801s have been my flipper of reference.
I am wondering if the 247 is worth the money compared to the 0801 (especially in terms of flipping action)

Does anyone has experience with those two knives?
How do they compare?
Which one as the best ergonomics and flipping action?
 
No experience with either but the 0801 have heard reports that its one ofthe best flippers around even when compared to certain customs. Havent heard anything that standa out in terms of flipping about the 247 but handle looks ergonomic. Hope that helps


The 0801 might have spoiled future flippes as they might not flip as well or as as satisfying.


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Different class of knife IMO.... You can make a cheaper knife to flip great, yet it's still a cheaper knife.

the 247 is a demonstration of craftsmanship, whereas the ZT is a fine example of great production
 
Two of my three favorite knives. I'd agree with Austonh's comment. For whatever reason, the 0801 is one of the best flippers ever made. The 247 flips quite well, though I've found it to be sensitive to lockbar pressure, certainly more so than the 0801. They're very different knives, but I love them both.
 
It's funny, I have both of these on order right now and they should be here sometime this coming week. Both made my short list but nobody around here had any I could handle, so I'm relying on the Internet and return policies to let me make my choice and send the other back.

Pretty much though the biggest difference between the two is that, while both are TECHNICALLY production knives (if one wants to refer to midtech knives that way), the Olamic 247 has a much higher, more meticulous build quality overseen by the maker themselves whereas the 0801 is a factory knife. No issues either way, to each their own, but the price difference definitely reflects which is which!! Honestly, I'm looking for a good EDC that feels great and looks (or can be made to look) decent, and if the 0801 feels better in the hand then that's the one I'd go for.

All that to say I'll be lurking in this thread to see what others think, and will post up my own impressions of both knives as soon as they arrive. :D
 
The 0801 might have spoiled future flippes as they might not flip as well or as as satisfying.
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Agree
Since I have my ZT0801 I haven't been convinced by other flippers :(

As the ZT0801 is on the heavy side I will be happy to find a 3.5" flipper in the 4-5oz range with a flipping action comparable to the ZT0801

the ZT045x series is nice but have either too short or too long blade length...:(

The Andre thornburn is difficult to find and expensive... the 247 looked like a good option
 
Agree
Since I have my ZT0801 I haven't been convinced by other flippers :(

As the ZT0801 is on the heavy side I will be happy to find a 3.5" flipper in the 4-5oz range with a flipping action comparable to the ZT0801

the ZT045x series is nice but have either too short or too long blade length...:(

The Andre thornburn is difficult to find and expensive... the 247 looked like a good option

A Thorburn or a Shirogorov might change ur mind about the best flipper for sure though. Of course cannot forget the Q36 but hard to find and for me personally blade is over 4 inches so nit for me.

I have been looking for a Thornburn as well for quite a while. One with M390 not the usual N699 as well as a 3D pocket clip instead of the bent spring or cf/g10 clips. The Thornburn Twack is famous.


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I'm going to preface this review by saying it's probably not the fairest comparison to put a midtech knife next to a production one, especially now that I've handled both. That said however, both have almost the exact same specifications, and both myself and the OP considered them for EDC, so I thought I'd give my impressions of the two side by side.

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I'm not usually one to do knife reviews but here are my impressions:

FLIPPING ACTION

Both are more than decent in this department. The 0801 is as butter smooth as any KVT bearing system knife and, while it doesn't rocket out like the smaller 0450, it's great out the box and destined to get better as it's broken in. There's no blade play and it locks up good and tight, definitely to the quality of ZT knives I've come in contact with. My biggest issue however was the size of the flipper tab itself: while adequate and with the jimping, when compared to the 247 it just didn't make the cut. It's small and, while probably designed that way to streamline the knife, just doesn't feel as good in the hand when opening.

The 247 is also a very smooth flipper but in a different way. It's hard to explain, but when you flick that tab and open her up, the blade moves with purpose. Maybe that's the ceramic detent ball, maybe it's just a feature of the knife, but it feels fantastic. When I got her out of the box, the knife was stiff; it still flipped just fine, but obviously needed to be worn in. Several hours of opening and closing (and almost getting a blister on my finger lol) broke it in a LOT though, and it feels like with use it will open up even more. From everything I've seen and read online, the tolerances are super tight with this knife and it'll need time to become the rocket many people like.

Verdict: 247

ERGONOMICS

I suppose this is a good time to mention the weights of each option. My 247 (with milling in the handle titanium; plainer or custom versions might weigh in differently) came in right at 5.0oz. The 0801 (a production knife so each should be the same) weighed in at 5.8oz. There was a noticeable weight difference but it wasn't terrible, and both would work for EDC. The real kicker however was the ergos of both options. The 0801 felt clunky, thick and ungainly in the hand, while the 247 fit perfectly. Both have the same/similar thickness and length, but the way the 247 is designed allows the hand to grip it more comfortably. With the 0801, you feel like you're just gripping a hunk of metal that doesn't really have anywhere to dig in with your fingers - with the 247, though, your fingers have somewhere to go, and it nestles into your palm.

Verdict: 247

LOOKS/CONSTRUCTION

Another IMO unfair comparison. The 247 comes with various anodizing options (their motto is essentially "No two alike") and is meticulously crafted with hidden features like the ceramic detent, various polishing styles and other options. The 0801 is a production knife and, aside from the lines cut into the handle and stoned washed finish, it's rather bland. Now, for the price difference, you could send the ZT out to get pimped how you like, or try and find the limited edition bronze version that looks really good. Customizing the ergonomics however might be difficult since various screws and function features are right along the edges that most need shaping IMO.

Verdict: 247

FINAL VERDICT

Like I started with, pitting these two against each other probably isn't the fairest of comparisons. Both are of similar dimensions and flipper-style construction, but that's where the similarities end. Each feels completely different in the hand and has very different features. Both are decent knives and both will certainly cut anything you put in front of it. For about 1/3 the price of the Olamic, the 0801 is a really good little knife, but putting them side by side? There's no comparison.

The ZT will be going back and I'll be keeping my 247 on my hip, well, 24/7. :D
 
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Thanks you very much for this very interesting comparison
That is great to you
 
Great review. Thank you!

Another great flipper to check out is the Kizer Ursa Minor... noticeably smoother than my 801. The ceramic ball bearings and detent really do pay dividends IME.
 
Thank you SaraLikesKnives for your observations and comments. You just made me pull the trigger on a 247 I've been eyeing.

Darn you. Darn you all.
 
Darn you. Darn you all.

Happy to be of service (if not necessarily to your checkbook). :D

Seriously though, it's a great knife. Any smaller and it'd be too tiny for my hand (I wear a size Large glove), any larger and it would be too much. It's in the Goldilocks zone for me and I can't stop looking or playing with it, plus it cuts through paper and cardboard like freaking butter (found that out today). ;)
 
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