Übergrinder

bladsmth said:
The first thing I noticed was that this was mounted on a HF grinder stand...talk about being from different worlds.

I like it a lot. I have some short pneumatic cylinders and controls. I may steal your idea when I build my mega-belt grinder to simulate a Japanese kaiten-toshi (large wet grinding wheel).
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You will probably need a fairly long stroke, if your belt is longer.
Fortunately, the actual cylinder is one of the least expensive parts of this build.
 
So when does it ship to me? Ha! Very, very nice grinder!!! Looks amazing, and i think i might "borrow" a few ideas for my KMG. I really dig the pnuematic belt tension...great idea. Does it track like a KMG?
 
Thanks for taking the time Brian. Really looks like a great setup. You thought of everything!

Travis builds an amazing grinder, but this thing trul is "uber":D Crazy sweet hunk of machinery right there!
 
Very nice. Do you mind me asking how much you put into that? Just to get a general idea of how long I am going to have to wait.
 
Oh, I probably have $2k, and untold hours in it.

The actual build is relatively quick, but the engineering was not.
 
As someone who just spent two days fiddling with the garage door spring attached to a bed frame arm and positioning for the hundredth time the piece of plywood my motor is screwed to, I may have to concede that your engineering is superior to mine :D :thumbup:
 
Wait, so you're saying you will NOT be offering these for sale at the same price of a Grizzly "knife grinder"???? WTF Brian?!?!?!? ;)


VERY VERY COOL!!! Thanks for sharing it Brian. :thumbup: :cool:
 
Please tell me you took the time to document and copyright the design, and each element of it. This thread and video actually covers a lot of it, since it gives the date that you had an operational machine and images of it, but... I'm not sure any single feature but your pneumatic setup is really patentable but the whole thing sure is. You might even talk to Bador or one of the other industrial grinder companies about whether they'd be interested in producing them. You clearly have a ton of thought into this, and your experience and engineering skill shows. A lot of the big commercial grinders seem like the person designing it never thought about how it actually gets used.

I'm really impressed and the video really shows how flexible the machine is. Are you sure you're in the right business making knives rather than engineering tools? I can think of a lot of tool companies that could use some help making stuff that actually WORKS well, not just looks flashy.
 
Nope, no patent, or trademark, or anything of that nature.

I did register Ubergrinder.com though...

There is no aspect of this that is patentable that would not be easily defeated by a tweak here or there, and I in no way have the funds to defend it anyhow.
 
Remyrw said:
Please tell me you took the time to document and copyright the design, and each element of it. This thread and video actually covers a lot of it, since it gives the date that you had an operational machine and images of it, but... I'm not sure any single feature but your pneumatic setup is really patentable but the whole thing sure is. You might even talk to Bador or one of the other industrial grinder companies about whether they'd be interested in producing them. You clearly have a ton of thought into this, and your experience and engineering skill shows. A lot of the big commercial grinders seem like the person designing it never thought about how it actually gets used.

I'm really impressed and the video really shows how flexible the machine is. Are you sure you're in the right business making knives rather than engineering tools? I can think of a lot of tool companies that could use some help making stuff that actually WORKS well, not just looks flashy.
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you cannot copyright the design of a machine, you have to patent it, lots of time and money involved as you have to be able to document that you have a truly original concept and execution and that nothing in your design infringes anyone else's patent

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Hmmm, you're right, I always forget that it's only patents for hardware. :(
Then there's the issue of whether it's worth spending the time and money to secure the patent. Since the risk of having it stolen if you explore having it produced before getting it patented is so high it's kind of a catch 22 unless you are very confidant about it being profitable down the road AND are willing to fight infringements. So I guess in this case, ignore my previous comments about all that unless you really want to talk to one of the big companies and pursue that idea. Odds are it wouldn't really pan out since they'd just take the ideas and produce their own variation anyway. Even if you patent it you'd have to spend a lot of money fighting the infringement and if they were careful they'd have changed things just enough to be legal and you're SOL.

LOL ok, so I guess I'm with you on the "not selling them, just for my own use", Brian. You've got one hell of a machine.
 
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