10-22 Pistol!!

I have both the 10/22 carbine w/ trigger & bolt job. & a MKII "target model" 5 1/2" hvy bbl Stainless. I really like both , Very fun to shoot. I don't see much of a use for the 10/22 pistol:confused: I think you can shoot as good w/ MKII,MKIII, 22/45 target models . I'm not a scoped pistol person :o I like open sights on my handguns. Thats just my .02:D
 
J.S. Carter said:
Well it's about the same as a HOT loaded .357 snubnose, think 2" barreled .44mag, Recoil is very Hard. I'd go with a lone eagle if you can find it as it's better balanced. with the grip moved forward under the barrell, it actually cuts 30-40% of the felt recoil, and encore wont.

good luck though, the high powered pistol is the most difficult shooting discipline to master, I still have trouble not shaking when i'm on the firing line... (the ONLY gun that i have ever experianced "Recoil Fear" from :(:o:thumbdn:
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Thanks for the tip. I have fired federal 125 full power in a snub nose. Hard yes but not a hand cannon. I need to find a lone eagle and try it out. I have fired an encore in 500 S&W and you do take notice, I would not want to fire it all day long. Maybe that ruger is another one to take to the range.
 
Anyone know if she's california legal? I'm not going to hold my breath, but if so, then I'm definitley snagging one, seems like the ultimate portable plinker.
 
Farnsrocket said:
I don't think that would be legal.
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As long as I dont have a short barrel(<16") on a rifle stock it will be ok. You can not however chop a rifle down to a pistol. The one exception that I know of is an encore. There are some other exceptions such as class 3 stuff.


Same goes for AR/AK recievers, if its classified as a pistol you can turn it into a rifle down the road, illegal to do it in reverse though.
 
It would be wise to double check the details on that. I'm pretty sure once you've mounted a stock & rifle barrel to a pistol reciever, that reciever is permanently classified as a rifle reciever. So you could turn your pistol into a rifle, but you could never again convert it to a pistol, even if you took off the stock, etc. I think. How does it work with the Encores? I always thought you had to have a separate reciever for pistol & rifle conversions.
 
the possum said:
It would be wise to double check the details on that. I'm pretty sure once you've mounted a stock & rifle barrel to a pistol reciever, that reciever is permanently classified as a rifle reciever. So you could turn your pistol into a rifle, but you could never again convert it to a pistol, even if you took off the stock, etc. I think. How does it work with the Encores? I always thought you had to have a separate reciever for pistol & rifle conversions.
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AFAIK, the Charger has a standard 10/22 action, so how would anyone know if it has been mounted on a pistol or rifle?
 
orrey45 said:
They can run the serial number.
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which would say that it was a pistol. . . and if it is legal to turn it into a rifle with a long barrel and stock, how is it going to be illegal if you turn it back into a pistol- they run the number, it will turn up as a pistol.
 
It's also legal to own parts that would turn a semi-auto rifle into a full auto. It's just not legal to install them. How would anyone know if you dropped 'em in for an afternoon of rock 'n' roll, & then converted it back? It's just a matter of what kind of risks you're willing to take.
 
I think were are saying the same thing, sorry if my post is confusing. A pistol reciever can be changed back and forth as long as the combination of short barrel and shoulder stock are not used. A rifle reciever cannot be changed.
 
orrey45 said:
I think were are saying the same thing, sorry if my post is confusing. A pistol reciever can be changed back and forth as long as the combination of short barrel and shoulder stock are not used. A rifle reciever cannot be changed.
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You might be right........I would want to hear from ATF or someone who knew for sure. Sorry to cloud up this thread. :cool:


Rat Finkenstein said:
AFAIK, the Charger has a standard 10/22 action, so how would anyone know if it has been mounted on a pistol or rifle?
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It has "Charger" on the side, so thats the pistol receiver.
 
Farnsrocket said:
It has "Charger" on the side, so thats the pistol receiver.
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someone said if you changed it to a rifle, then it would become illegal to turn it back into a pistol. My point was- there would be no way to tell if you had made it into a rifle and switched it back, so it could not be illegal.
 
Putting a (rifled) long barrel on a pistol (as determined by the serial number) is never a problem. Changing back to a pistol length barrel, also not a problem.

Putting a shoulder stock onto a pistol is a much more grey area - regardless of the length of the barrel that is actually in place. Legally it is, and always will be, a pistol and you can't put a stock on a pistol (yep, they'd still call it a short barreled rifle even if the barrel was longer than 16"...)

The BATFE did issue a ruling back in the 80's that allowed for the posession and use of shoulder stocks for some military pistols (Lugers, Hi-Powers), but that was specific to named items and to my knowledge the BATFE has not issued any sort of blanket guidance, instead continuing to address it on a case-by-case basis.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/wbardwel/public/nfalist/atf_letter58.txt

Sure, if it looks like an ordinary rifle the odds of ever having a problem are small. Most likely problem - you forget it's a pistol and somewhere down the road it gets sold/re-sold and eventually recorded on a a BATFE form 4 as a 'long gun' sale - a technical violation (not that BATFE is going to go easy on the violation none the less.) Worst case scenario, you give it to your 17year old son, who takes it squirrel hunting, has trouble, and the cops run the serial number... You and he become instant felons.
 
You can make a pistol into a rifle, or a pistol into a long barrelled revolver, but not a rifle into a pistol nor a rifle into a short-barreled rifle..... I think. :)
 
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