10 Ga shotguns

I spoke to one gentleman who mentioned one of the obvious advantages which may have been overlooked . There is more pellets so you either get a denser pattern or a wider one .

All in all I think try before I buy is the order of the day . Unfortunately I don,t know anyone with one which may be telling in itself .
 
do ya' dare me?! huh?! huh?! ya' dare me I'll do it! how much yoo wanna bet??!!


awright guys, here we go! watchiss!! (ad lib maniacal cackling and an earth shaking "KABOOM!!")

guy had a 600 Nitro Express bbl. made for his Contender...

LOL Now you have the picture. True confessions come next, complete with big, bad fed waiting for his own stiches :eek: :foot: :D

One Detroit copper, a really good guy and local folk hero, Buddah by name decided what he really needed for raids was a double barrel pistol in 12 guage. Serious surgery was done to said 12 guage, the result being about 20? (to 26") long. On the first shot it rang his chimes with gusto...Thereafter he learned to put his left hand over the barrel and lock his elbow for control. I can still see my friend loading it, shrugging his shoulders a couple times, and rolling his neck around just before kicking in the first door. As luck would have it, we did have a firefight complete with two thunderous booms. While the shooting continued unabated, Buddah stood there momentarily, realizing that the only thing between him and the bad guys was an empty gun. Azzholes an' elbows over the couch......and a few days later it was sold.

How could our Hero have gotten it wrong? Surely there was a good concept waiting to be refined?......Off to a local gun show, where a high dollar Browning S-S with some dings became MY test bed. First, shorten the barrels but not the stock (the whole thing came in 3 1/2" shorter than a 30/30, and right at 5 pounds). Second, quick reloading would be accomplished using a small leather skeet pouch. Several boxes of skeet loads were grabbed, and off to the club, where the NEW "Roadwarrior Special" proved astoundingly effectice on clay pigeons. Chest swelled, big grin, let's go kick some doper butt.

After pulling on the bulletproof vest, I rummaged around and came up with 3" Magnum Buckshot. (You see where this is going don't you?) Once inside, a guy pops a shot at me, and jumps back around the corner into the kitchen. I quickly aimed at a spot about 3' from the edge of the doorway and let loose with BOTH BARRELS. Shit, how'd I do that?...It was a single trigger gun! Two holes in the wall, one over the other! Blood running down my forehead, I quickly reloaded...at least that was easy! I figured to fire one more to flush the guy who was not listening to the screams for him to give it up. BA-BLAM! Another double discharge and now my head really hurt!! The defendant gave it up, the kitchen refrigerator was VERY dead, and yours truly began the wait for medical attention.

Post Mortem: The Brownings single selective trigger was recoil activated to prepare the second barrel to fire. Cut a third of the weight out of the gun, make it really whippy, add the 3" Magnum shells....et voila! A gun guaranteed to fire twice on each single pull of the trigger. A dentist bought the gun to use with light skeet loads. When, on this forum, I say something like "i'm pretty sure that won't work".....I try not to mislead you all.
 
Wait a minute here ? Recoil activated second barrel trigger ? I have a hard time just saying that . L:O:L
Wouldn,t you still have to pull the trigger a second time ?
 
Wait a minute here ? Recoil activated second barrel trigger ? I have a hard time just saying that . L:O:L
Wouldn,t you still have to pull the trigger a second time ?

yes, you're still (supposed to) pull the trigger once for each barrel. It's basically an internal hammer that recocks itself and lines up for the other bbl. as the gun recoils.

It seems a bit sketchy in concept, but just about every over under made today utilizes that system, so there must be something to be said for it.
 
Kevin-
There may have been something else at play in Jurassic's example, but guns can be known to "double" if the inertia system ain't working right. (usually from crud built up that prevents the little pendulum dealie from moving freely- but in his case things were just no longer in tune) On most modern designs, it's not that recoil recocks the gun or switches it to the second barrel. The other barrel is already cocked, and the trigger switches to it automatically after being pulled the first time. The inertia pendulum thingie simply prevents the gun from firing until recoil from the first shot has subsided. The gun recoils back into your shoulder upon firing the first shot. You're still squeezing the trigger, but the gun has actually moved back in relation to your hand from the recoil, enough to allow the trigger to move forward again & be reset. Then the gun quickly rebounds from the recoil, because your flesh is squishy, and moves forward again. This all happens in a split second, so if the disconnector is not working, when the gun (and the trigger!) moves forward again upon rebounding, the trigger will be "automatically" pressed by your finger before you can even think to let off it.


When, on this forum, I say something like "i'm pretty sure that won't work".....I try not to mislead you all.
Yeah, I've learned to pay attention when you speak. :) Thanks for the anecdotes. Really appreciate 'em.
 
Found this old thread I somehow missed. I had an Ithaca Roadblocker for about 2 years, for precisely the reasons Jurrasicnarc mentioned probably. I ran 3.5" magnums with BB shot through it, and it kicked far harder than any 12 I ever shot, even a double coach gun with 3" mag loads. It was almost unusable. Exactly as he said, I fired a single box of shells through it and it just tore up my shoulder.

The previous owner had soaked the action with oil and stood it in the corner and let the oil run down into the stock. The tang was also rusty. I cleaned it up and did a tru-oil refinish on the stock which turned out really nice and then sold it later for almost twice what I paid for it. Shortly after that Ithaca sold the patent to Remington for what became the SP-10.

As I recall it had a 22" barrel. Too much for me, and too little utility when compared to a plain old home defense 12 ga. It was aptly named though.

Norm
 
do ya' dare me?! huh?! huh?! ya' dare me I'll do it! how much yoo wanna bet??!!


awright guys, here we go! watchiss!! (ad lib maniacal cackling and an earth shaking "KABOOM!!")

Nope. Never done that kinda thing before.....:o :o

Probly go over about like this: http://www.stephenbodio.com/Recoil_1.wmv ( warning: video comes complete with a wirdy dird or two)

guy had a 600 Nitro Express bbl. made for his Contender...

LMAO:D :D The look on the guys face! What a maroon:rolleyes:
Thanks for the vid!
 
F***in' OW!! :eek: that has got to be the stupidist thing I've ever seen!

600 Nitro Express? in a pistol???? DAMNNNNN!!! ya fool!
 
F***in' OW!! :eek: that has got to be the stupidist thing I've ever seen!

600 Nitro Express? in a pistol???? DAMNNNNN!!! ya fool!

There goes his scope! What a dork. I hate to say it but it would have been funnier if he was using an isoceles! "Bang! Thump! Thud..." :D

Someone should sell this guy one of the "new" 10 ga. magnum derringers!


Norm
 
There goes his scope! What a dork. I hate to say it but it would have been funnier if he was using an isoceles! "Bang! Thump! Thud..." :D

Someone should sell this guy one of the "new" 10 ga. magnum derringers!


Norm

If there's any gun (besides wonder boy's above) that scares Krull it'd have to be those derringers in .44 mag or *wince* 45-70!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
 
Where I live, lead shot has just about been completely banned, and is 100% banned for waterfowl hunting, so it's been switched to steel shot. Steel pellets have much less mass, so most hunters have either:

A: switched to 3 1/2 inch 12gauge for waterfowl . (which works well,)
B: Gone to 10guage (which works better...)

I use a 10guage myself for all my shotgun hunting
 
Where I live, lead shot has just about been completely banned, and is 100% banned for waterfowl hunting, so it's been switched to steel shot. Steel pellets have much less mass, so most hunters have either:

A: switched to 3 1/2 inch 12gauge for waterfowl . (which works well,)
B: Gone to 10guage (which works better...)

I use a 10guage myself for all my shotgun hunting


I haven't hunted waterfowl in several years, but heard that because of the number of crippled birds caused by steel, that new bismuth shot was coming into use, with a greater density than steel. Approaching lead, but without the environmental issues?

In other words, I heard that steel shop with all its problems might be on the way out?

Norm
 
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