1084 going extinct?

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Led Boots

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I've been trying to find some 1084 in 5/32" (.156) and every place I look appears to be out of stock.
Is that an oddball thickness for 1084 or is it just that hard to find right now?
 
Aldo has it listed, but when you choose .156 in the drop down box he is out of stock. IIRC on a different thread concerning .250" W2, which he is also out of, the next batch of steel should be here around May. Posted exact same time!!
 
Call him and see if he has any laying around not listed on his site. He is the one who has the 1084 smelted to his recipe, so if he doesn't have it he can tell you who does.
 
Aldo has .187 in stock. It is only a little more per foot. If that is too thick, ask him to run it through the surface grinder for you to .150.
 
To be fair, before Aldo came along, 1084 had pretty much become extinct at last as far as readily available now product goes. I still have some of the old 1 inch round edge stock that he got from the Schrade bankruptcy liquidation before he started having his own stuff smelted. When I first got onto the knifemaking game, there was a problem as far as finding really good quality steel if you didn't want to use the rather expensive decision ground tool steel or Admiral's 1075/60, 5160, etc. IIRC, Kelly Cupple's 1080 was about the only guaranteed good stuff of that type for a while. I have a pretty fair amount go Aldo 1084 and 15N20, but a lot of my steel is stuff that cannot be found anymore like Don's W2, CruForge V and the aforementioned Schrade 1084. I still have a bunch of the square bar W2 that Don sold initially before he started selling the bigger round bar.
 
jdm61 said:
To be fair, before Aldo came along, 1084 had pretty much become extinct at last as far as readily available now product goes. I still have some of the old 1 inch round edge stock that he got from the Schrade bankruptcy liquidation before he started having his own stuff smelted. When I first got onto the knifemaking game, there was a problem as far as finding really good quality steel if you didn't want to use the rather expensive decision ground tool steel or Admiral's 1075/60, 5160, etc. IIRC, Kelly Cupple's 1080 was about the only guaranteed good stuff of that type for a while. I have a pretty fair amount go Aldo 1084 and 15N20, but a lot of my steel is stuff that cannot be found anymore like Don's W2, CruForge V and the aforementioned Schrade 1084. I still have a bunch of the square bar W2 that Don sold initially before he started selling the bigger round bar.
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To be perfectly honest, I was looking for steel for my first knife making attempt(s). Everything I've read has led me to believe 1084 is what I needed.

If you're willing to part with a small stick, I'd throw you some cash for it. If not, I understand...I'll wait until I can find it.
 
All of mine is 1/4 inch. I bought a fair amount of it the first round and that is all he had back then. Aldo does have he other 3 sizes in stock. the only one he is out of is the .157. He does have the 1095 in your size.
Led Boots said:
To be perfectly honest, I was looking for steel for my first knife making attempt(s). Everything I've read has led me to believe 1084 is what I needed.

If you're willing to part with a small stick, I'd throw you some cash for it. If not, I understand...I'll wait until I can find it.
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I want my M...T.... Oops, sorry, wrong chant. I want my C.......F........V!!!!! Crucible....you listening????
 
Led,

If you are making your first one with hand tools do yourself a favor and go with the .125 thick stock to start. It will be alot easier to cut and there is alot less material to take off the bevels with the thinner stock. You will have a better chance of turning out a really functional knife on your first try.

Good Luck

Jeff
 
Iwannashoot said:
Led,

If you are making your first one with hand tools do yourself a favor and go with the .125 thick stock to start. It will be alot easier to cut and there is alot less material to take off the bevels with the thinner stock. You will have a better chance of turning out a really functional knife on your first try.

Good Luck

Jeff
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Thanks for the suggestion, Jeff. I think I may do that.
 
Aldo's 1084 was custom smelted to match the chemistry of the original 1084 he got started with when we bought all of the 1084 he had and demanded more of the same mix. If you are doing stock removal with hand tools get the ground .125, you will be much happier not having to try to get through mill scale, and thin is much easier to make sharp

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Actually, that may not be completely accurate. I still have the original Schrade 1084 that he "found" and the stuff that he had smelted is different. I has a pinch of vanadium in it and may be a bit deeper hardening. IIRC, the 1095 that Aldo had originally was the FG stuff with the small amount of vanadium.
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Aldo's 1084 was custom smelted to match the chemistry of the original 1084 he got started with when we bought all of the 1084 he had and demanded more of the same mix. If you are doing stock removal with hand tools get the ground .125, you will be much happier not having to try to get through mill scale, and thin is much easier to make sharp

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Yes, the 1095 that Aldo originally had was called 1095 FG. I liked it a lot..I bought some of the last 1084 that admiral steel had years ago..They sold it off discounted. I bought a bunch of 6' bars for something like $9 each...It did not have the Va like Aldo's does but it was good steel. Just plain 1084..I do really like Aldo's 1084, I don't think it always gets the credit it deserves out there..
 
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