1095 Carbon - The Worst Steel

Nothing really wrong with 1095, it's an OK general use steel that's not expensive, special, impressive or anything like that, it keeps costs down for the makers so they can choose to pass that savings onto the customers or a percentage of it or not.

Other than that there really isn't much to say about it other than if one wants a cheap knife they can be had in 1095, or a lawnmower blade for that matter.

There are other options to make knives out of however.

Personally 1095 doesn't do anything for me, just doesn't trip my trigger or get my attention, I lose interest really fast in a knife when it's in 1095, I start yawning.....
 
Ankerson said:
Nothing really wrong with 1095, it's an OK general use steel that's not expensive, special, impressive or anything like that, it keeps costs down for the makers so they can choose to pass that savings onto the customers or a percentage of it or not.

Other than that there really isn't much to say about it other than if one wants a cheap knife they can be had in 1095, or a lawnmower blade for that matter.

There are other options to make knives out of however.

Personally 1095 doesn't do anything for me, just doesn't trip my trigger or get my attention, I lose interest really fast in a knife when it's in 1095, I start yawning.....
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Steel snob... :p
 
d2eux said:
Normally I don't make much of youtube arguments, but this one really blew my mind. This guy thinks 1095 is the shittiest crappiest steel, EVEN with good heat treat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AYEuisTI4E

He even says 440A is tougher:p

What gets me with people like this is that they think they know everything, but really know nothing. If he didnt consider heat treatment I would have made nothing of it, just another kool-aid drinking "1095 is shit, blah, blah, blah". But the fact he thinks a good heat treated 1095 cant stand up to stainless steels really displays his ignorance.
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Listen idiot. I never said 1095 was the worst steel ever. Don't misquote me to stir up crap. I've praised 1095 plenty of times during testing.
 
d2eux said:
Normally I don't make much of youtube arguments, but this one really blew my mind. This guy thinks 1095 is the shittiest crappiest steel, EVEN with good heat treat.
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Where?


mete said:
1095 has been used for blades for at least 75 years !!There must be something good about it !!
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It means 1095 is a very old steel and since then metallurgy moved on and much better alloys were introduced, for any application. It's alright and not the worst, but it ain't the best either. It's easy to HT and work with. Very low wear resistance makes it rather uninteresting in small knives (IMHO). It's still a good budget steel for certain types of knives, but I doubt about being "best all around", that is of course if the price isn't deciding factor.
 
zrfunited said:
What's funny is that I just did the same thing as several of you- I watched the video and then went huh(?).
The op is talking about the rediculous arguments in the comment section.

Btw that was the first and last knifetest video for me. That was brutal to sit through. I feel dumber, and I can't get the "tink, tink, tink, tink..." sound out of my head.
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I like how the one guy quoted the ESEE 4 at 3/16" thick as a "skinny" knife. Bwahahaha!!! To people who use their knives to cut things the ESEE 4 is on the TOO thick side. :D I use 1095 almost exclusively for my outdoor knives. Didn't choose it on purpose though. It's just how it ended up and I'm content with it.

These "tests" on the other hand are seriously stupid. All it proves is that with enough stupid abuse that a knife will break. Doesn't take a genius to realize that.
 
noss4 said:
Listen idiot. I never said 1095 was the worst steel ever. Don't misquote me to stir up crap. I've praised 1095 plenty of times during testing.
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He wasn't quoting you. You made the same mistake that I did. He clearly referenced the argument and not the video. I missed it too, until I figured it out and then re-read the post more carefully.
 
averageiowaguy said:
Noss's videos always make me bust a chuckle. They feature a guy dressed up like an executioner in a horrendous looking basement. It puts the lotion on its skin. It does this whenever it is told. For some reason I find myself identifying with the knife. When he turns around and you see the 2X4 in a vice, its really creepy. Like 'oh god what is he going to do to that poor knife?' LOL.
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He does kind of look like a rejected character from the show Criminal Minds, I'll give you that. :D
 
Noss, smack them stupid heads together a couple times more!

And thanks for taking the time for testing and filming it all for the rest of us who are intrested in learning that king of stuff.
 
Gator97 said:
mete said:
1095 has been used for blades for at least 75 years !!There must be something good about it !!
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It means 1095 is a very old steel and since then metallurgy moved on and much better alloys were introduced, for any application. It's alright and not the worst, but it ain't the best either. It's easy to HT and work with. Very low wear resistance makes it rather uninteresting in small knives (IMHO). It's still a good budget steel for certain types of knives, but I doubt about being "best all around", that is of course if the price isn't deciding factor.
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Zviad, you do realize you are trying to teach steel technology to a metallurgist who specializes in steel?
 
Frank, I wasn't trying to t"each" him anything :) I never claimed metallurgy or knifemaking knowledge either.
I am trying to explain/elaborate why 1095 is popular despite having very little to offer compared to modern alloys. it's a matter of perspective, and I explained(or tried) why 1095 isn't interesting to me personally.
 
RevDevil said:
Look who made the video, what else woul you expect? When you purposely destroy every single tool you touch and say that it's junk, your credibility becomes questionable in a hurry. I'll say it again because it bears repeating, a knife is supposed to cut, not hammer, pry, make you coffee, rotate your tires, or drive your kids to school. :rolleyes:
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I think Victorinox is on the verge of covering most of those issues.
 
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