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1095 rust prevention

Discussion in 'Shop Talk - BladeSmith Questions and Answers' started by Sharpe5097, Oct 28, 2017.

  1. Sharpe5097

    Sharpe5097

    316
    Mar 2, 2017
    What do you guys use to treat the 1095 blade to help with rust.
     
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  2. Justin Schmidt

    Justin Schmidt Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    3 in 1 oil works best. There's a video on it about 1095 on YouTube
     
  3. Matthew Gregory

    Matthew Gregory Chief Executive in charge of Entertainment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jan 12, 2005

    ...it also tastes like shit.

    Don’t know about you, but I use my knives for all sorts of stuff, including cooking, dressing game, and making peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

    Smear a bit of coconut oil on the warmed blade, let it sit for a bit, and wipe it dry.


    Coconut oil is the ‘active’ ingredient in FrogLube.

    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/02/21/froglube-is-probably-made-from-coconut-oil-not-frogs/


    Reasons why you might want to consider something like FrogLube:

    http://www.dayattherange.com/?page_id=3667
     
  4. kuraki

    kuraki Fimbulvetr Knifeworks

    Jun 17, 2016
    Ferric chloride.

    Then frog lube or fire clean because I have to use up what I was duped into buying before I switch to straight coconut oil. :D
     
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  5. john april

    john april KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 27, 2006
    the finer the finish, the more it resists rusting. a 400 grit finish will rust fast compared to a mirror finish.
     
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  6. Minnesota Man

    Minnesota Man Gold Member Gold Member

    848
    Sep 30, 2014
    I use Rem oil for all rust prevention I carry a "food knife" so I don't care about that. I use a Cold Steel Kudu for food.
     
  7. E.Carlson

    E.Carlson KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    685
    Mar 28, 2016
    It's an aquired taste.
    High grit finish. Keep it clean and dry. Use it to cut up your veggies to get a patina built up.
     
  8. Justin Schmidt

    Justin Schmidt Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    Surprisingly my wife told me about the coconut oil trick. I planned on testing it when I finnish a walnut handle also cause ya know science
     
  9. kuraki

    kuraki Fimbulvetr Knifeworks

    Jun 17, 2016
    Regardless of food safety, Rem Oil is a terrible RP.
     
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  10. Justin Schmidt

    Justin Schmidt Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    This is the video I referenced earlier. And yeah been oil didn't do so hot
     
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  11. JTknives

    JTknives Blade Heat Treating www.jarodtodd.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jun 11, 2006
    The best thing is to mix about 13% chromium with your 1095 ;)
     
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  12. V84mystang

    V84mystang

    123
    Jul 23, 2017
    Renaissance Wax works the best for me. I use it on all my 1095 among many other things.

    Great video! Thanks for sharing that. Couple things to point out:
    The renaissance wax vs. carnauba wax wasn’t surprising. But carnauba wax won’t wear quite as well as the renaissance wax. (And if you read about the development of renaissance wax, they talk about how carnauba and bees wax become acidic over time so renaissance wax wins that comparison for long term storage)

    Rem oil is not exactly an oil, it’s more of a dry lube with Teflon in an alcohol carrier and it’s actually not that good at rust prevention compared to other lubes. Rem oil’s majic is in its low film build and it resists gunking-up. It’s a great friction-reducing lube but as a surface protector WD-40 is far better. “WD” stands for “water displacement”: that’s exactly what it was designed for, but again it wears off faster than renaissance wax.

    Light weight oils like 3-in-1, Marvel Mystery, light motor oils, etc. work very well at preventing surface rust as we saw in that test video. I’ll come back around to renaissance wax as being a great dry lube that stays on for years and doesn’t wear off easily. I’d gladly use any of those oils if I didn’t have renaissance wax. But I like the bonus that my knife doesn’t have to be all oily.

    For those that don’t know, renaissance wax was designed to preserve priceless antiques initially for the British museum. Especially for metal things that were frequently handle by human hands. The stuff works good.

    Sorry I sound “sales pitchy”. I’m still tickled with how well it works on my blades. I preserve old stacked leather handles with it too.
     
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  13. Minnesota Man

    Minnesota Man Gold Member Gold Member

    848
    Sep 30, 2014
    I haven't had a problem but i see other folks agree with you. I'm not as experienced as most folks here. I'll sit back and absorb the info here. Thanks guy.
     
  14. Don Hanson III

    Don Hanson III KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 3, 2002
    Rinse and wipe dry is all we do with carbon steel in the kitchen. Never any rust.
     
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  15. Boston_Strong

    Boston_Strong

    36
    Jul 7, 2016
    That made my day!
     
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  16. Bill DeShivs

    Bill DeShivs KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jun 6, 2000
    Renaissance Wax is designed to be easy to buff off. Try neutral paste shoe polish. Much cheaper and more durable.
     
  17. Kevin McGovern

    Kevin McGovern KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 31, 2015
    Elbow grease ( aka- mirror finish) is a good rust preventative.
     
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  18. V84mystang

    V84mystang

    123
    Jul 23, 2017
    With very much respect, I don’t think this is quite correct. If I may: it was designed to dry hard and protect surfaces of items that are frequently handled without wearing it off. It’s also designed to be able to be cleaned with detergents and not wear off. It’s also designed for outdoor use and it’s made specifically so only mineral spirits would strip it. Not that it can’t buff off but I don’t think it buffs off any easier than any other wax. It’s certainly in my experience more wear resistant than car wax (it’s still only a wax. It does eventually come off).

    I’m not disagreeing about the shoe polish, that may well work better. I’d like to try that out.
     
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  19. Matthew Gregory

    Matthew Gregory Chief Executive in charge of Entertainment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jan 12, 2005
    That doesn’t fly up here, bud - I can rinse and dry a carbon steel knife, place it on a shelf and, depending on the time of the year, have rust spots in two weeks or two days. Yes, rust spots.

     
  20. Justin Schmidt

    Justin Schmidt Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    Sounds like down here in Florida. I can't grind a knife without the other side completely rusting. Gotta wipe my knives down with wd then put them in a zip lock
     
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